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Black Friday: 4 Years Later, Race Is Still Issue for Some Voters

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Re: Black Friday: 4 Years Later, Race Is Still Issue for Some Voters

  • I will admit, I was for Hillary, I didn't even know who Barack was. And once I read more about Barrack I still wanted Hillary to win but I realized that I had to  choose a "side" women or black people. I chose my race. I am an independent. I wish there had been an Obama/Clinton ticket because I truly believe things would be different today because Clinton would not have put up with the B.S. from the Repubs and even Barack on some issues.But in the end yeah I voted for obama because he was Black and because I depise Sarah Palin and truly believe SHE is racist.
  • Black people voted him in, that?s why he won. It was black ignorance.?

    Reading crap like this makes me sad. Really, really sad. So much for being the "enlightened party." Dumbfuucks. I mean really, how can these people be this stupid?"

     

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    I will admit, I was for Hillary, I didn't even know who Barack was. And once I read more about Barrack I still wanted Hillary to win but I realized that I had to  choose a "side" women or black people. I chose my race. I am an independent. I wish there had been an Obama/Clinton ticket because I truly believe things would be different today because Clinton would not have put up with the B.S. from the Repubs and even Barack on some issues.But in the end yeah I voted for obama because he was Black and because I depise Sarah Palin and truly believe SHE is racist.

    So you don't vote based on issues? You care more about gender and race? 

  • imageSMorriso:

    Or strong religious opinions. I know more than a few socially conservative black Republicans. They vote on the social aspect mostly based on ultra conservative religious stances.

    I wouldn't consider them casual voters then and I would call that a strong political opinion.



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  • imageblacksred:
    I will admit, I was for Hillary, I didn't even know who Barack was. And once I read more about Barrack I still wanted Hillary to win but I realized that I had to  choose a "side" women or black people. I chose my race. I am an independent. I wish there had been an Obama/Clinton ticket because I truly believe things would be different today because Clinton would not have put up with the B.S. from the Repubs and even Barack on some issues.But in the end yeah I voted for obama because he was Black and because I depise Sarah Palin and truly believe SHE is racist.

    Are you friends/do you work with MarynJoe?

  • imagehindsight's_a_biotch:
    imageSMorriso:

    Or strong religious opinions. I know more than a few socially conservative black Republicans. They vote on the social aspect mostly based on ultra conservative religious stances.

    I wouldn't consider them casual voters then and I would call that a strong political opinion.

    I guess I do. I mean, they vote on pro-life or anti-gay issues based on religious stances. I know they're political topics, but they come from a place of faith for them, not politics. 



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  • imageblacksred:
    I will admit, I was for Hillary, I didn't even know who Barack was. And once I read more about Barrack I still wanted Hillary to win but I realized that I had to  choose a "side" women or black people. I chose my race. I am an independent. I wish there had been an Obama/Clinton ticket because I truly believe things would be different today because Clinton would not have put up with the B.S. from the Repubs and even Barack on some issues.But in the end yeah I voted for obama because he was Black and because I depise Sarah Palin and truly believe SHE is racist.

    Well jeez, you could have voted for Cynthia McKinney. She's black and a woman! HTH!

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    imageblacksred:
    I will admit, I was for Hillary, I didn't even know who Barack was. And once I read more about Barrack I still wanted Hillary to win but I realized that I had to  choose a "side" women or black people. I chose my race. I am an independent. I wish there had been an Obama/Clinton ticket because I truly believe things would be different today because Clinton would not have put up with the B.S. from the Repubs and even Barack on some issues.But in the end yeah I voted for obama because he was Black and because I depise Sarah Palin and truly believe SHE is racist.

    Well jeez, you could have voted for Cynthia McKinney. She's black and a woman! HTH!

    OMG!!! Merry!! You should have SEEN the Pomp and Circumstance that took place at her campaign headquarters the night she lost her congressional seat!!! Let me see if I can find it for you. My people were set back about 30 years after that crap. 

     

    PS, WTMF is choosing between your gender or race? Someone explain it to me because now it sounds just plain ig-nant!! 

  • imageblacksred:
    I depise Sarah Palin and truly believe SHE is racist.

    KnittY?

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  • imageIAmMalcolmX:

    PS, WTMF is choosing between your gender or race? Someone explain it to me because now it sounds just plain ig-nant!! 

    I didn't realize I was supposed to check in my undies before pulling the lever in the booth. Next time I know, pick the person who's parts and skin look closest to mine.

    Also, Sarah Palin is a racist? At the risk of bringing back the glory days when we discussed Palin all damned day, this is one I've never heard.

    I'm sorry, I just can't wrap my head around the idea of ignoring the aaaaaaaaalll the issues and giving your vote to the person who looks most like you.



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  • imageSou Desafinado:

    imageblacksred:
    I will admit, I was for Hillary, I didn't even know who Barack was. And once I read more about Barrack I still wanted Hillary to win but I realized that I had to  choose a "side" women or black people. I chose my race. I am an independent. I wish there had been an Obama/Clinton ticket because I truly believe things would be different today because Clinton would not have put up with the B.S. from the Repubs and even Barack on some issues.But in the end yeah I voted for obama because he was Black and because I depise Sarah Palin and truly believe SHE is racist.

    Are you friends/do you work with MarynJoe?

    LOL.  Seriously, one of my coworkers, a manager, college education, intelligent, has a "shrine" to Obama in his office.  I asked about Obama's politics and he didn't have a thing to say.  Other black coworkers have said, "It's our turn."  *shrug*  I have to say that they've honest.  I've had a lot of conversations with my black friends about race issues, and underlying most of them is that they feel they should "support their people", due to their history of being an oppressed group.  I don't think that represents all black people, but it does represent some, and that can't be ignored when it comes to voting issues.

    Also, if all Republicans were racist, then a whole lot of people I know need to get a divorce.

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  • Oh, this thread reminds me when I got flamed for posting an article that suggested that many black voters voted for Obama because he was black.  And then there was quantifying what "many" means/what I meant by "many".

    Good times. 

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  • imagehindsight's_a_biotch:
    imageSou Desafinado:

    No, but there seems to be a recurring theme on this board that Republicans/conservatives are the racists who won't vote for Obama.

    Yup but we all know that the union member voting block isn't exactly black folk friendly.

    Teacher's union?

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  • imageNuggetBrain:
    imageSou Desafinado:
    imageNuggetBrain:

    I didn't know that black ignorance had a voting card. 

    No, but there seems to be a recurring theme on this board that Republicans/conservatives are the racists who won't vote for Obama.

    I know that.  It was a sarcastic remark because the idea is so unbelievably stupid.

    ETA: I think there were only a few people who mentioned this, and then KateAggie brings it up whenever someone says something bad about Republicans which just makes it worse. 

    Wow.  You've been here, what, a month?  We've had numerous discussions on this over the last 3+ years, and there have been quite a few who've said it.  

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    imagehindsight's_a_biotch:
    imageSou Desafinado:

    No, but there seems to be a recurring theme on this board that Republicans/conservatives are the racists who won't vote for Obama.

    Yup but we all know that the union member voting block isn't exactly black folk friendly.

    Teacher's union?

    No, I was thinking more of trade unions, manufacturers, plants, coal, electricians, etc. Blue collar dems mostly.



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  • imagehindsight's_a_biotch:
    image2Vermont:
    imagehindsight's_a_biotch:
    imageSou Desafinado:

    No, but there seems to be a recurring theme on this board that Republicans/conservatives are the racists who won't vote for Obama.

    Yup but we all know that the union member voting block isn't exactly black folk friendly.

    Teacher's union?

    No, I was thinking more of trade unions, manufacturers, plants, coal, electricians, etc. Blue collar dems mostly.

    Gotcha.

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  • Conversation a few years ago with a black friend:  He said he went to a car dealership to buy a car.  He said he didn't see any "brothers" working there, so he worked with the first salesman who approached him.  That salesman was white.  My friend ended up buying the car from the white salesman.  While Friend was sitting in a room waiting on paperwork, a black salesman came up to him and asked Friend why he bought from a white guy.  Friend told the salesman "I looked for a brother working here and didn't see one, so I went with this guy."  The black salesman called Friend a sell-out and walked away.  My friend then told me that he always tries to find a black salesperson or employee to help him when he's buying something because he feels he should support his black brothers and sisters.  He said it's just what is expected, although it's not usually spoken aloud.

     

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    Conversation a few years ago with a black friend:  He said he went to a car dealership to buy a car.  He said he didn't see any "brothers" working there, so he worked with the first salesman who approached him.  That salesman was white.  My friend ended up buying the car from the white salesman.  While Friend was sitting in a room waiting on paperwork, a black salesman came up to him and asked Friend why he bought from a white guy.  Friend told the salesman "I looked for a brother working here and didn't see one, so I went with this guy."  The black salesman called Friend a sell-out and walked away.  My friend then told me that he always tries to find a black salesperson or employee to help him when he's buying something because he feels he should support his black brothers and sisters.  He said it's just what is expected, although it's not usually spoken aloud.

     

    You should pull this out into a separate thread. 

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