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So upset

Found out my sister had a baby and nobody in my family told me. She hasn't talked to me in over a year and the rest of my family and I aren't that close but I still keep in touch by calling them once a month. I found out on facebook because I'm friends on there with my half sister. She never mentioned anything about anyone being pregnant or posted photos of the newborn. She just posted something along the lines "Babies are beautiful...." and when I asked if someone had a baby her post suddenly disappeared. That got me thinking that I had seen a picture earlier of my sister and she appeared somewhat heavier but I thought nothing of it until I saw my sister's post. When I privately messaged her and told her I had a hunch that our sister was pregnant or had a baby she never replied. I called my step-mom and asked her if she could tell me if my sister had a baby.  She asked how I knew and I told her I figured it out on my own. It's true, she did have a baby. I am so happy for her but I broke down crying because I wish someone would have told me. I even visited my family back in December although not my sister because she didn't wish to see me. I left a message on my sister's cell congratulating her and sent her a gift for the baby. I hope I did the right thing but then again I may have upset her further if she didn't want me to know. I try to make myself feel better by telling myself that maybe she figured someone in the family already had told me and probably thought I just didn't care but that's probably wishful thinking. Nobody told her I moved to Germany either although she may have figured it out already.Now my step-mom feels terrible for not telling me but she said she feels like she is trapped in the middle of me and my sister's rift. She felt it was my sister's responsibility to tell me if she wanted me to know...which is true. She said that's why they decided not to tell me. However, family from out of state on my step-mom's side of the family knew because they were told. I want to talk to her but she won't and I don't want to bother her. Besides I live in Germany so it's not like I I'm part of the family anyways. I just wish I knew...she is my biological sister and I care for her and my nieces. Do you think it's time to let it go and walk away? My husband said he'd never speak to them again if it was him (there's a long history of family dysfunction on my side) but I just can't seem to do that even though it does seem like the right answer.

     My sister has another daughter that I've met in the past when we were getting along. The odd thing is that my sister will let me send gifts to her older daughter but not tell me she's pregnant? What if I would have never found out she had another baby? Then her younger child would have grown up wondering why her older sister receives presents from me but not her.

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  • We dont know what the beef is between the two of you but I have to assume it's something big since there is almost no communication.  I think as hard as it is you have to let your anger/disappointment go with the rest of your family for not telling you.  Is it crappy?  Yes.  But consider the position they are in, stuck in the middle.

    Is it time to walk away?  Only you know the answer it to that, and it's a hard question to answer.  For me, family is so important, family is forever, and I couldn't fathom cutting off ties with a family member.  But that's not always the case in every family.  Based on what you posted, it seems that she's the one calling the shots here.  That said, you have to put in what you think is a reasonable, acceptable effort.  If it's not enough to get her to come around, you have to be satisfied that you have done your part.

    Good luck.

  • Some people are funny that way.:(

    Then again, somebody in the family should have told you --- it would have been nice to know.
  • imagecbradeis:

    Is it time to walk away?  Only you know the answer it to that, and it's a hard question to answer.  For me, family is so important, family is forever, and I couldn't fathom cutting off ties with a family member.  But that's not always the case in every family.  Based on what you posted, it seems that she's the one calling the shots here.  That said, you have to put in what you think is a reasonable, acceptable effort.  If it's not enough to get her to come around, you have to be satisfied that you have done your part.

    Good luck.

    Yeah that is true. I can only do so much but if she doesn't come around then I have to walk away.

  • imageJulienC:

    Found out my sister had a baby and nobody in my family told me. She hasn't talked to me in over a year and the rest of my family and I aren't that close but I still keep in touch by calling them once a month. I found out on facebook because I'm friends on there with my half sister. She never mentioned anything about anyone being pregnant or posted photos of the newborn. She just posted something along the lines "Babies are beautiful...." and when I asked if someone had a baby her post suddenly disappeared. That got me thinking that I had seen a picture earlier of my sister and she appeared somewhat heavier but I thought nothing of it until I saw my sister's post. When I privately messaged her and told her I had a hunch that our sister was pregnant or had a baby she never replied. I called my step-mom and asked her if she could tell me if my sister had a baby.  She asked how I knew and I told her I figured it out on my own. It's true, she did have a baby. I am so happy for her but I broke down crying because I wish someone would have told me. I even visited my family back in December although not my sister because she didn't wish to see me. I left a message on my sister's cell congratulating her and sent her a gift for the baby. I hope I did the right thing but then again I may have upset her further if she didn't want me to know. I try to make myself feel better by telling myself that maybe she figured someone in the family already had told me and probably thought I just didn't care but that's probably wishful thinking. Nobody told her I moved to Germany either although she may have figured it out already.Now my step-mom feels terrible for not telling me but she said she feels like she is trapped in the middle of me and my sister's rift. She felt it was my sister's responsibility to tell me if she wanted me to know...which is true. She said that's why they decided not to tell me. However, family from out of state on my step-mom's side of the family knew because they were told. I want to talk to her but she won't and I don't want to bother her. Besides I live in Germany so it's not like I I'm part of the family anyways. I just wish I knew...she is my biological sister and I care for her and my nieces. Do you think it's time to let it go and walk away? My husband said he'd never speak to them again if it was him (there's a long history of family dysfunction on my side) but I just can't seem to do that even though it does seem like the right answer.

         My sister has another daughter that I've met in the past when we were getting along. The odd thing is that my sister will let me send gifts to her older daughter but not tell me she's pregnant? What if I would have never found out she had another baby? Then her younger child would have grown up wondering why her older sister receives presents from me but not her.

    Without any idea of *why* you and your sister are no longer speaking it is kinda hard to give advice on this and be able to tell you whether or not to reach out.

    However, it is HER choice who she wants to include in her life and it seems she has made her choice pretty clear.....even if you don't understand it or like it 

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  • I agree with PP. I'm kind of going through the same thing but I would be in your sister's position. My SIL is a very stubborn, brash, rude, in-your-face kind of person. Very thing is her way and that's it. Her family caters to her because she's the only girl and the "youngest" and it's caused a lot of issues, consequently we don't talk to her. Which she was fine with for the first few months but now she uses the kids (we each have one) as an excuse to contact us, send gifts, try to guilt trip through family members, etc. we've never acknowledged gifts she sent and would prefer she not send them, we don't consider her part of our family. Just because it's biological doesn't mean anything, this is a person we chose not to include in our lives, including our children's. Unfortunately, our family is not as thoughtful as yours because we're expecting in Juky and hey tell her everything, I'm sure they will tell her when we have the baby and she'll show up at the hospital, she does this because she knows we don't want her too but won't want to cause drama on such an important day. She will use it as an excuse to see us and insert herself back into our lives. After 5 years of BS we learned our lesson, I don't know what happened between your sister and you but you need to respect her decision and cut ties and move on. On the flip side, why would you want to talk to someone who doesn't think your significant enough to tell you about a new child? Definitely time to move on.
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  • I really cannot give you any response unless I know why you two do not speak. 
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  • I confronted her about some things she was passing onto my family that I had confided in her and she got upset. We both said some nasty things to each other and I ended the conversation by hanging up. I tried to apologize 6 months later but she told me she wasn't interested in talking to me and hung up. But really what we said to each other is not the real issue. Our mother abandoned us when we were kids - she was 4 and I was a baby. She told me that I remind her of what happened between my parents. Also, my father admitted he pushed both my mother and sister away while he was cheating on our mom with his current wife (my step-mom). For the longest time she was angry at them but took it out on me. She was pretty cruel to me growing up even though we had two half siblings that she could have used as punching bags but she decided to use me. Anyways, it doesn't matter what happened to us in the past or what we said to each other. We should be adults and be able to move on without having to make others feel that we are putting them in the middle. I joined the military for a reason- to get away from it all but it seems like I was never able to escape. What hurts me the most is that I am not the one that caused all the sadness in her life- that was our parents and my step mom that did to her. Yet, she has moved on and I just feel like I was thrown under the bus now that she and our family get along. I do feel that she is still releasing her anger on me but trying to prove to them (especially my dad) that she has gotten past our mother leaving her and is now a nice person. Unfortunately, I don't have the same opinion about her because she is still pretty cruel to me. But she is my sister so I still care about her.
  • imageJulienC:
    I confronted her about some things she was passing onto my family that I had confided in her and she got upset. We both said some nasty things to each other and I ended the conversation by hanging up. I tried to apologize 6 months later but she told me she wasn't interested in talking to me and hung up. But really what we said to each other is not the real issue. Our mother abandoned us when we were kids - she was 4 and I was a baby. She told me that I remind her of what happened between my parents. Also, my father admitted he pushed both my mother and sister away while he was cheating on our mom with his current wife (my step-mom). For the longest time she was angry at them but took it out on me. She was pretty cruel to me growing up even though we had two half siblings that she could have used as punching bags but she decided to use me. Anyways, it doesn't matter what happened to us in the past or what we said to each other. We should be adults and be able to move on without having to make others feel that we are putting them in the middle. I joined the military for a reason- to get away from it all but it seems like I was never able to escape. What hurts me the most is that I am not the one that caused all the sadness in her life- that was our parents and my step mom that did to her. Yet, she has moved on and I just feel like I was thrown under the bus now that she and our family get along. I do feel that she is still releasing her anger on me but trying to prove to them (especially my dad) that she has gotten past our mother leaving her and is now a nice person. Unfortunately, I don't have the same opinion about her because she is still pretty cruel to me. But she is my sister so I still care about her.

    If you still care about her, I don't think you're ready to move on.

    I can't speak for everyone here, but I'm personally not an advocate of cutting people out of our lives. I think life is short, and we should ask ourselves what we would regret most at the end: that we spent too much time with a relative we didn't like, or we didn't make the effort when we wanted a better relationship?  Sure, I get that there are times when a relationship becomes so unhealthy and abusive that it's simply in everyone's best interest to end it, but I think most family relationships are worth fighting for before they get to that point. 

    My suggestion is for you to take a little more time and think about what you want. If you can honestly say you want some form of communication with your sister, write her a heartfelt letter explaining this. Apologize if you feel that's appropriate, and tell her what you're looking for. You don't have to be chums, but maybe you could just keep each other updated on major life events, send cards once in a while, etc. Whatever you write, be as honest as possible.

    Your sister may not want any relationship with you; she may ignore the letter, or she may respond angrily. But even if she does either or those, at least you won't go to the end of your life regretting that you never reached out. 

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  • imageJulienC:
    I confronted her about some things she was passing onto my family that I had confided in her and she got upset. We both said some nasty things to each other and I ended the conversation by hanging up. I tried to apologize 6 months later but she told me she wasn't interested in talking to me and hung up.
    I'm going back to this.  She passed on information that you confided in her with, and YOU are apologizing to HER?

    There is clearly a lot of dysfunction in your family.  Including w/ you.  I'm not saying that to be nasty.  But really- she broke a confidence and SHE is the one "not talking to you" and you're the one running around trying to have a relationship with her. 

    I wish I could give you some advice, but I really don't have any.  Actually, the one thing I will say is that there are clearly many, many, many layers of issues.  With her on her own, between the two of you, etc.  You can't look at this situation from a black and white spot of "Other family knew but I didn't....??? ".  She doesn't have a beef w/ other fmaily.  She has a beef w/ you.  Justified or not - but that's the situation.  What she does and what other family knows - you can't use that as a basis of comparison. 

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  • EastCoastBride: I understand where you're coming from  but I'm not a saint. I said something real terrible and hurtful that should have never came out of my mouth. When I mean terrible, I mean really TERRIBLE. And I am the one who hung up on her after I realized what I said. So yeah basically she was talking behind  my back and I was hearing so much negativity from my dad that I decided to tell her to stop telling him things. It just seemed like they were pointing out every mistake I made in my life but not considering what led me down that path. And really these "mistakes" weren't anything to be ashamed of to begin with. Things like joining the Army and having a child at 21, my husband that they don't like. It's not like I ever asked anything from them except maybe a little bit of emotional support. As far as money and rasing my son...my husband and I did that on our own. So I'm not sure what the problem is. Maybe they just don't like the decisions I made? But they turned out to be good decisions and I took responsibility for my actions. To make a long story short I ended up pointing out one very significant mistake she made in her life (that nobody in my family knows about) so that I could remind her that she wasn't so perfect herself. Very wrong and childish I know but I do recognize I was wrong and shouldn't have confronted her if I didn't know how to handle the situation.  I guess if I want a relationship with them I have to keep my mouth shut or I suffer the consequences.
  • Well, with your update- you're right, two wrongs don't make a right and you clearly played a role.  But still - I'm getting the sense that you're trying to apologize to her, she's not accepting it AND she's also not owning up to HER role in the downfall. 

    But again - that's making it a black and white thing and it's not that black and white.

    It sucks.  Again, I wish I had some advice, but i'm really at a loss on this one.

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  • You didn't know she was pregnant because she didn't want you to know.

    Obviously you both are not active in each other's life since you first went 6 months without speaking before you attempted contact. She is choosing to not have you in her life. She won't speak to you. I would leave it alone.

     


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    Therapy!

    As ECB pointed out, there is clearly dysfunction in your family.  You were your sister's punching bag for years?  And you still are sad that you are not close?

    In the meantime, stop focusing on your sister, and build up your life with people who are healthy and caring and loving towards you and your H.  Move on with your life.  Even when you were "getting along," your sister was betraying you by passing on your secrets, so she wasn't a good friend to you. 

    By sending her daughter gifts, focusing on her baby, sending baby gifts - you're giving your sister an awful lot of power in your relationship.  She is using that power to hurt you (keeping secrets, "not talking to you.").  If you want to "give" to your sister's children, I would open an account and put money in it for them with you as the trustee.  I'm not sure what you can really do without their social security #, but at least put aside $25 or $50 for each birthday.  Then when they are older you can re-connect with them and let them know that even though you never sent anything, you were always thinking of them.  If you send anything to them, I would only send a card on holidays or their birthday. 

    You really do need therapy.  Even if you were in the wrong, your sister has mistreated you and the fact that you are begging for a place in her life speaks volumes about your relationship.

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  • Honestly, I would not keep trying with her. At least not right now. It just seems like doing so repeatedly is perpetuating things for you and leaving you hurt and frustrated.

    Have you had any counseling for this? It might be beneficial to you. 

    You are the part of this whole thing that you can control. It sounds like you have made several attempts to reach out to her, and you've apologized for your part in the rift between the two of you. I don't think there's much more you can do about this.  

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