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Re: PA Supreme Court Voter ID
Re the BOLD above:
My mom works the polls (lol I always find it so funny to tell people that for some reason) and during the last election, she said people would come in and vote, go home (or somewhere), get changed into different clothes and came back to vote again. How did they do this? The polling location where my mom is at has huge binder books where people's names are listed. They go in the first time and say, "Hi. I'm Bob Jones." Then as the person is looking through the page to find the real "Bob Jones", Bob Jones finds a different name listed on that pages while he is "helping" the polling volunteer find his name and remembers it. Then Bob Jones comes back 4 hours later (when there is usually a shift change at the table) as Henry Joneson.
It happened. A lot. People were double and triple dipping. So much that they had to dedicate 2 people to try and remember faces/hair.They really couldn't NOT let them vote because they didn't have any way to prove that they just voted 4 hours earlier but many people after being called out, turned and walked out.
Can I also bring up another point that may not have been brought up? If people don't have to show ID, what about illegal aliens in this country? Do you think they should be allowed to vote? For the record, I do not.
First of all, I take great offense to this. Clearly you don't understand what I do for a living and just because things may not affect me directly, doesn't mean that it doesn't indirectly affect me or that I can't empathize with a possible Constitutional issue. And what, just because I'm not black, Hispanic, poor or homeless, I don't 'get the problem' but what you can 'get' it...please....that is so disingenuous and offensive on many levels. People can actually disagree and understand the problem you know. And last I checked this problem doesn't affect you either, but obviously you feel strongly about it, but OK, you can understand the problem but not me.
And yes, it IS true that MOST homeless shelters will not take a person without an ID. I have a client now that is just sitting in prison because he is homeless, the PO"s are arguing with me that a shelter is not a verifiable address (which is a whole another problem) and even if they do agree, I have only been able to find 2 facilities, which are located out of my county, that will take him without an ID. But hey, clearly you know, so I guess I must be lied to.
Also, it is completely true that voter fraud is underreported. I am not claiming that it is underreported at a great level that it would seriously effect the argument but was pointing it out that it is statistically underreported.
My entire point was that other factors also affect our Constitutional right to vote. I would also argue that geography plays a more important role than ID. This isn't just a race issue, it includes a whole cluster of individuals ranging from race to geographic locations.
Also, just out of curiosity, did they (the opponents) provide a study, statistics, whatever, in the percentage of individuals that do not have ID's and/or were denied the right to vote for failure to provide an ID? I just wander on how large of a population were speaking of.
Ummm, am i detecting a bit of sensitivity? are you the only person on the board or in the state for that matter who said they are torn on this issue? i'll help you out...nooooooo....so my comment about not understanding being torn wasn't directed at you, so why you took that so offensively coming from me, but not NQ when she said basically the same thing "Sure, it probably won't effect anyone on this board, but that doesn't mean it's not wrong" is a little perplexing to say the least.
We all form our opinions based off of our own experiences, you say voter fraud is underreported, I say the evidence to support your stance isn't there, hence is how i come to the conclusion that i don't understand how someone can be torn on the issue. And wait, i'm sorry, did I ever even bring up race? Yeah, that's another noooooo
Its funny (ironic, not haha) because in my head this should be a complete unity horse issue no matter what side of the political spectrum you (let me clarify, that's the collective you, not you you) fall on, fiscal conservatives aim to eliminate wasteful spending, and liberals are concerned with protecting the rights of those who will be disproportionately affected by such a law.
Its in an earlier post of mine, but The Department of State has estimated the number of registered voters in Pennsylvania without proper identification at about 758,000.
It goes by state but for Pennsylvania, the State Department estimated about 90,000 eligible voters may not have the required form of ID to vote. It's actually The American Civil Liberties Union, which is challenging the law in the Pennsylvania Supreme Court this week, that claims as many as 759,000 voters lack a valid ID for voting.
Actually, I did say I was torn so you were directly speaking to me and you clearly implied race there is no doubt about that. It was offensive, however you twist it, to claim that because one is not directly affected by something, that they either won't understand or care, because that is BS and you know it.
And Jesus Christ, statistically it IS underreported, ugh...., statistics IS evidence but that is not even my point. There is clearly inequality regarding voting, not just the ID issue. Personally, I understand having to show an ID to vote to prevent multiple votes in order to change the outcome, I don't get why that is so hard to understand. But I get that someone may not have the freaking 10 bucks to get an ID, but honestly, I don't believe it would seriously change the outcome all that drastically. I can't see people that would normally vote get turned down because they don't have an ID. I would even go so far as to suppose that those without Id's are those that mostly likely are less inclined to vote. But really, this is not the issue at heart, it's equality I get it, but *** ah man.
Yup, you're right, I was speaking directly to you and I apologize for being offensive, but that's no reason to use the Lord's name in vain. I'm hoping that you'll ask for forgiveness....
That's because posting a picture like that is certain to make the Baby Jesus cry...and we all know what happens to people who do that!
dude, you were speaking to me because I was involved in the group of 'yous.' And, I still don't get how you don't understand how it could possibly be offensive to claim that people who are not affected directly by something (such as this) can't understand the 'problem' or get it....but you can....right
. OK, this is dumb, it's just going to go around and around...and...Lol for forgiveness, yeah, I'll ask all right......
No, I don't think illegal aliens should have the right to vote, voting requirements not only vary by state, they vary by county, and I think whatever mechanisms a particular county has in place to prevent illegal aliens from voting (and i do wonder why they would vote anyway, typically they want to stay off the radar) currently should remain in place.