Air Force Help Please, kinda long story :)

iluvmytxrgr · October 2012

WishIcouldbeinthe'stan:
Ah yes. Because I was being not at all sarcastic in my reply. I must not have understood her sarcasm and legitimately thought she was an Air Force Colonel on the OTS Selection Board.

Because that's what she said.

iluvmytxrgr · October 2012

lovebug055:
hahahaha the fact that shE CLEARLY was joking and it was sarcasm.....and you wrote an essay stating all of your knowledge that you PROBABLY knew off the top of your head AND you went to her page to validate your point tells ke I need to give up. bahahahahahaahahhha. I think youve got a taaadddd bit time on your hands and maybe I should post elsewhere because you are just QUEEN OF THE NEST. I crown thee. oh...and thata Mrs Colonel to you. hahahaha

Mitt, is that you?

kyrgyzstan · October 2012

iluvmytxrgr:
WishIcouldbeinthe'stan:
Ah yes. Because I was being not at all sarcastic in my reply. I must not have understood her sarcasm and legitimately thought she was an Air Force Colonel on the OTS Selection Board.
Because that's what she said.

I would like to clarify that I did not believe her. Big Smile

kyrgyzstan · October 2012

iluvmytxrgr:
lovebug055:
hahahaha the fact that shE CLEARLY was joking and it was sarcasm.....and you wrote an essay stating all of your knowledge that you PROBABLY knew off the top of your head AND you went to her page to validate your point tells ke I need to give up. bahahahahahaahahhha. I think youve got a taaadddd bit time on your hands and maybe I should post elsewhere because you are just QUEEN OF THE NEST. I crown thee. oh...and thata Mrs Colonel to you. hahahaha
Mitt, is that you?

Crying

Also, http://bit.ly/WoKcXd

lovebug055 · October 2012

smiles325:
My husband is ADAF. He's sewing on SSgt here soon. He is coming up on a year left in his contract of 6 years and we're looking at all possible options for his future career.

I have to agree in a way with Stan and Tx. It's a very very competitive area in the AF and there are a TON of VERY qualified Airmen that are hopefuls for being selected. Now, your husband can work on his packet and provide all given information he can as to show how he would be qualified. But, he is just an A1C. His chances are very low. I think the biggest thing would be that as an individual and a couple, your emotions will be pretty set on making the cut and if/when he doesn't make it, it would really damper your moods/feelings on the entire matter.

Whereas, if you waited a few more years and took these few years for him to really make his packet look phenomenal, then your chances of being selected are much much higher. Could he be selected this time around? Perhaps. But very unlikely.

It would be the off chance that they didn't have many applicants or anyone with great proof to show their leadership. But if he had an outstanding packet, it would prove to the AF that they not only want him, but need him.

There's nothing wrong with waiting. It can build strength together in your relationship, it will better prepare him to be an officer, and better Airman/leader.

I'm not telling you what you can/can't do. It's just my opinion.
It's rough. My BIL crossed from enlisted to officer and he had an incredible GPA, several years in as an enlisted member and really worked hard to make him qualified. I've had several conversations with my husband in the past 3 1/2 years about him putting in for Officer. He personally, at least in the past, hasn't had the confidence in making it BECAUSE it's so competitive. Now that he's older, has worked really hard on his schooling and is a supervisor for his flight, he has more confidence and would probably feel better about applying. (If he chooses to go that route.)

I wish you guys the best of luck with making your decisions and hope it all works out.

Just know that Stan and Tx are only trying to help. I've been around this board for a while, and especially when it was more active. I know them both pretty well. No need to take offense.

Again, good luck!

ETA: Also, I want to make a point that none of us, in any way are bashing on you or your husband in saying that "He's just an A1C, he didn't finish ROTC" etc. It's just simple facts that because becoming an officer is so competitive, those points just wouldn't help him perse. And could possibly make those on the board look past his packet quickly. I don't know, because I'm civilian. But I do know how competitive it all is.

well no one is saying that waiting will hurt them. The entire point WE were trying to make was NOT to give up and pursue it.

lovebug055 · October 2012

iluvmytxrgr:
lovebug055:
hahahaha the fact that shE CLEARLY was joking and it was sarcasm.....and you wrote an essay stating all of your knowledge that you PROBABLY knew off the top of your head AND you went to her page to validate your point tells ke I need to give up. bahahahahahaahahhha. I think youve got a taaadddd bit time on your hands and maybe I should post elsewhere because you are just QUEEN OF THE NEST. I crown thee. oh...and thata Mrs Colonel to you. hahahaha
Mitt, is that you?

Yes, its me, Mitt. Let me not say that before you believe me too

lovebug055 · October 2012

WishIcouldbeinthe'stan:
iluvmytxrgr:
WishIcouldbeinthe'stan:
Ah yes. Because I was being not at all sarcastic in my reply. I must not have understood her sarcasm and legitimately thought she was an Air Force Colonel on the OTS Selection Board.
Because that's what she said.
I would like to clarify that I did not believe her.

Well two hand claps for not believing her. I guess it caught me off guard since 97% of the 100% of people dont usually spend THAT much time and effort to be sarcastic in a Essay lol. OH and I would think YOU would be the Mitt being as you are throwing out your statiatics. His 47%..your millions others...so Mitt, is THAT you?

MrsOjoButtons · October 2012

Lovebug, how long have you been in?

kyrgyzstan · October 2012

lovebug055:
WishIcouldbeinthe'stan:
iluvmytxrgr:
WishIcouldbeinthe'stan:
Ah yes. Because I was being not at all sarcastic in my reply. I must not have understood her sarcasm and legitimately thought she was an Air Force Colonel on the OTS Selection Board.
Because that's what she said.
I would like to clarify that I did not believe her.
Well two hand claps for not believing her. I guess it caught me off guard since 97% of the 100% of people dont usually spend THAT much time and effort to be sarcastic in a Essay lol. OH and I would think YOU would be the Mitt being as you are throwing out your statiatics. His 47%..your millions others...so Mitt, is THAT you?

I learned how to be sarcastic for at least 20 pages in college. And the difference between Governor Romney and me is that I cited my source for you, and my numbers are all correct.

iluvmytxrgr · October 2012

WishIcouldbeinthe'stan:
lovebug055:
WishIcouldbeinthe'stan:
iluvmytxrgr:
WishIcouldbeinthe'stan:
Ah yes. Because I was being not at all sarcastic in my reply. I must not have understood her sarcasm and legitimately thought she was an Air Force Colonel on the OTS Selection Board.
Because that's what she said.
I would like to clarify that I did not believe her.
Well two hand claps for not believing her. I guess it caught me off guard since 97% of the 100% of people dont usually spend THAT much time and effort to be sarcastic in a Essay lol. OH and I would think YOU would be the Mitt being as you are throwing out your statiatics. His 47%..your millions others...so Mitt, is THAT you?
I learned how to be sarcastic for at least 20 pages in college. And the difference between me and Governor Romney is that I cited my source for you, and my numbers are all correct.

Yeah, I told you should wouldn't get that I was calling her Mitt because of her flip flopping.

BTW, we aren't telling them not to go for it eventually. We are telling them to beef up his packet and go later. I think that has totally flown over your head. Now, you're just being ridiculous.

lovebug055 · October 2012

iluvmytxrgr:
WishIcouldbeinthe'stan:
lovebug055:
WishIcouldbeinthe'stan:
iluvmytxrgr:
WishIcouldbeinthe'stan:
Ah yes. Because I was being not at all sarcastic in my reply. I must not have understood her sarcasm and legitimately thought she was an Air Force Colonel on the OTS Selection Board.
Because that's what she said.
I would like to clarify that I did not believe her.
Well two hand claps for not believing her. I guess it caught me off guard since 97% of the 100% of people dont usually spend THAT much time and effort to be sarcastic in a Essay lol. OH and I would think YOU would be the Mitt being as you are throwing out your statiatics. His 47%..your millions others...so Mitt, is THAT you?
I learned how to be sarcastic for at least 20 pages in college. And the difference between me and Governor Romney is that I cited my source for you, and my numbers are all correct.
Yeah, I told you should wouldn't get that I was calling her Mitt because of her flip flopping.
BTW, we aren't telling them not to go for it eventually. We are telling them to beef up his packet and go later. I think that has totally flown over your head. Now, you're just being ridiculous.

I`m sorry maybe I don't speak nest but I don't understand your "i told you should wouldn't get.." comment....maybe that flew over my head as well...

Regardless, maybe my original comment flew over YOUR head as well, ATTEMPTING to come at me like everything I say is bad, oh and my "BAD leadership's" as well. There is actually a pill for that kind of thing

Oh and honey, ridiculous is as ridiculous does. And you've been a tad bit ridiculous your self, mate.

lovebug055 · October 2012

WishIcouldbeinthe'stan:
jasminelorraine20:
WishIcouldbeinthe'stan:
jasminelorraine20:

WishIcouldbeinthe'stan:
She said they were married, her profile said otherwise. And yeah, she can take the advice she wants to take. I imagine it will be the advice saying, yay, go for it A1C, go be an officer! Because that's the advice she wanted to get. Unfortunately for her and the USAF, it's the wrong advice.

We're a part of the USAF and we think it's the right advice.

OP tell your H to go for it!!!

So you're part of the officer selections board? Because I have dealt with those, more than once, and I promise that his application as an A1C, with a failure to adapt to ROTC in college, is not a strong application. You have to apply with the best possible package you can. In this case, that's a post testing rank, not a TIS rank. It's an application post a little experience as a SSgt.

You people don't have to like me. I very genuinely could not possibly care less if you do. But you're giving bad advice because you want to be right next to the mean poster, and in the end, that hurts her and her H more than my not saccharine delivery of correct advice.

Yes, I am apart of the officer's selection board and that is how I know more than you.
Huh. That's an interesting detail to leave until the end. So you gave her no advice on the fact that "your" board only selected 47 active duty Airmen for OTS on the September board. That's 47 of 398 overall accepted to OTS. I don't know offhand how many Airmen applied, because I'm not on the board. But 47 AD Airmen of 398 accepted applicants is 11.8%. Of those 47, 6 were A1Cs. 12.7% of the active members selected. 25 of the 47 were SSgts. 53% of the selected active members. Techs were 7 of those 47. So together, NCOs made up 32/47 active member selections. 68% of the active members selected were NCOs. With how competitive selection is, I think those 6 A1Cs were likely really stellar Airmen. Not people with failures in college to meet the standards set by ROTC. The board takes into account academic discipline. Just a little more math because math skills are important as an AF officer, 1.5% of the 398 selected for OCS on the September announced board were A1Cs.
And since you just posted on MF (I read and respond over there as well) on TB about living in VA, I'm really curious about your commute to HQ AFRS at Randolph. And I didn't realize I was talking to a senior Air Force officer, since that's who reviews and makes the decisions on OTS applications. My apologies Colonel.

And I'm sorry, where is the cited source you speak of?

lovebug055 · October 2012

iluvmytxrgr:
WishIcouldbeinthe'stan:
lovebug055:
WishIcouldbeinthe'stan:
iluvmytxrgr:
WishIcouldbeinthe'stan:
Ah yes. Because I was being not at all sarcastic in my reply. I must not have understood her sarcasm and legitimately thought she was an Air Force Colonel on the OTS Selection Board.
Because that's what she said.
I would like to clarify that I did not believe her.
Well two hand claps for not believing her. I guess it caught me off guard since 97% of the 100% of people dont usually spend THAT much time and effort to be sarcastic in a Essay lol. OH and I would think YOU would be the Mitt being as you are throwing out your statiatics. His 47%..your millions others...so Mitt, is THAT you?
I learned how to be sarcastic for at least 20 pages in college. And the difference between me and Governor Romney is that I cited my source for you, and my numbers are all correct.
Yeah, I told you should wouldn't get that I was calling her Mitt because of her flip flopping.
BTW, we aren't telling them not to go for it eventually. We are telling them to beef up his packet and go later. I think that has totally flown over your head. Now, you're just being ridiculous.

And, my "Flip Flopping"? I am begging you to elaborate on that.

kyrgyzstan · October 2012

lovebug055:
WishIcouldbeinthe'stan:
jasminelorraine20:
WishIcouldbeinthe'stan:
jasminelorraine20:

WishIcouldbeinthe'stan:
She said they were married, her profile said otherwise. And yeah, she can take the advice she wants to take. I imagine it will be the advice saying, yay, go for it A1C, go be an officer! Because that's the advice she wanted to get. Unfortunately for her and the USAF, it's the wrong advice.

We're a part of the USAF and we think it's the right advice.

OP tell your H to go for it!!!

So you're part of the officer selections board? Because I have dealt with those, more than once, and I promise that his application as an A1C, with a failure to adapt to ROTC in college, is not a strong application. You have to apply with the best possible package you can. In this case, that's a post testing rank, not a TIS rank. It's an application post a little experience as a SSgt.

You people don't have to like me. I very genuinely could not possibly care less if you do. But you're giving bad advice because you want to be right next to the mean poster, and in the end, that hurts her and her H more than my not saccharine delivery of correct advice.

Yes, I am apart of the officer's selection board and that is how I know more than you.
Huh. That's an interesting detail to leave until the end. So you gave her no advice on the fact that "your" board only selected 47 active duty Airmen for OTS on the September board. That's 47 of 398 overall accepted to OTS. I don't know offhand how many Airmen applied, because I'm not on the board. But 47 AD Airmen of 398 accepted applicants is 11.8%. Of those 47, 6 were A1Cs. 12.7% of the active members selected. 25 of the 47 were SSgts. 53% of the selected active members. Techs were 7 of those 47. So together, NCOs made up 32/47 active member selections. 68% of the active members selected were NCOs. With how competitive selection is, I think those 6 A1Cs were likely really stellar Airmen. Not people with failures in college to meet the standards set by ROTC. The board takes into account academic discipline. Just a little more math because math skills are important as an AF officer, 1.5% of the 398 selected for OCS on the September announced board were A1Cs.
And since you just posted on MF (I read and respond over there as well) on TB about living in VA, I'm really curious about your commute to HQ AFRS at Randolph. And I didn't realize I was talking to a senior Air Force officer, since that's who reviews and makes the decisions on OTS applications. My apologies Colonel.

And I'm sorry, where is the cited source you speak of?

I posted where I got my info later in the thread. http://bit.ly/WoKcXd

jasminelorraine20 · October 2012

WishIcouldbeinthe'stan:
lovebug055:
WishIcouldbeinthe'stan:
jasminelorraine20:
WishIcouldbeinthe'stan:
jasminelorraine20:

WishIcouldbeinthe'stan:
She said they were married, her profile said otherwise. And yeah, she can take the advice she wants to take. I imagine it will be the advice saying, yay, go for it A1C, go be an officer! Because that's the advice she wanted to get. Unfortunately for her and the USAF, it's the wrong advice.

We're a part of the USAF and we think it's the right advice.

OP tell your H to go for it!!!

So you're part of the officer selections board? Because I have dealt with those, more than once, and I promise that his application as an A1C, with a failure to adapt to ROTC in college, is not a strong application. You have to apply with the best possible package you can. In this case, that's a post testing rank, not a TIS rank. It's an application post a little experience as a SSgt.

You people don't have to like me. I very genuinely could not possibly care less if you do. But you're giving bad advice because you want to be right next to the mean poster, and in the end, that hurts her and her H more than my not saccharine delivery of correct advice.

Yes, I am apart of the officer's selection board and that is how I know more than you.

Huh. That's an interesting detail to leave until the end. So you gave her no advice on the fact that "your" board only selected 47 active duty Airmen for OTS on the September board. That's 47 of 398 overall accepted to OTS. I don't know offhand how many Airmen applied, because I'm not on the board. But 47 AD Airmen of 398 accepted applicants is 11.8%. Of those 47, 6 were A1Cs. 12.7% of the active members selected. 25 of the 47 were SSgts. 53% of the selected active members. Techs were 7 of those 47. So together, NCOs made up 32/47 active member selections. 68% of the active members selected were NCOs. With how competitive selection is, I think those 6 A1Cs were likely really stellar Airmen. Not people with failures in college to meet the standards set by ROTC. The board takes into account academic discipline. Just a little more math because math skills are important as an AF officer, 1.5% of the 398 selected for OCS on the September announced board were A1Cs.

And since you just posted on MF (I read and respond over there as well) on TB about living in VA, I'm really curious about your commute to HQ AFRS at Randolph. And I didn't realize I was talking to a senior Air Force officer, since that's who reviews and makes the decisions on OTS applications. My apologies Colonel.

And I'm sorry, where is the cited source you speak of?

I posted where I got my info later in the thread. http://bit.ly/WoKcXd

Did you pass English class? You didn't cite properly. And we don't care about your statistics.

OP Tell your H to do it!!!!! He will do great

jasminelorraine20 · October 2012

WishIcouldbeinthe'stan:
jasminelorraine20:
WishIcouldbeinthe'stan:
jasminelorraine20:

WishIcouldbeinthe'stan:
She said they were married, her profile said otherwise. And yeah, she can take the advice she wants to take. I imagine it will be the advice saying, yay, go for it A1C, go be an officer! Because that's the advice she wanted to get. Unfortunately for her and the USAF, it's the wrong advice.

We're a part of the USAF and we think it's the right advice.

OP tell your H to go for it!!!

So you're part of the officer selections board? Because I have dealt with those, more than once, and I promise that his application as an A1C, with a failure to adapt to ROTC in college, is not a strong application. You have to apply with the best possible package you can. In this case, that's a post testing rank, not a TIS rank. It's an application post a little experience as a SSgt.

You people don't have to like me. I very genuinely could not possibly care less if you do. But you're giving bad advice because you want to be right next to the mean poster, and in the end, that hurts her and her H more than my not saccharine delivery of correct advice.

Yes, I am apart of the officer's selection board and that is how I know more than you.

Huh. That's an interesting detail to leave until the end. So you gave her no advice on the fact that "your" board only selected 47 active duty Airmen for OTS on the September board. That's 47 of 398 overall accepted to OTS. I don't know offhand how many Airmen applied, because I'm not on the board. But 47 AD Airmen of 398 accepted applicants is 11.8%. Of those 47, 6 were A1Cs. 12.7% of the active members selected. 25 of the 47 were SSgts. 53% of the selected active members. Techs were 7 of those 47. So together, NCOs made up 32/47 active member selections. 68% of the active members selected were NCOs. With how competitive selection is, I think those 6 A1Cs were likely really stellar Airmen. Not people with failures in college to meet the standards set by ROTC. The board takes into account academic discipline. Just a little more math because math skills are important as an AF officer, 1.5% of the 398 selected for OCS on the September announced board were A1Cs.

And since you just posted on MF (I read and respond over there as well) on TB about living in VA, I'm really curious about your commute to HQ AFRS at Randolph. And I didn't realize I was talking to a senior Air Force officer, since that's who reviews and makes the decisions on OTS applications. My apologies Colonel.

Why are you so curious about my commute? Are you trying to stalk me?

kyrgyzstan · October 2012

jasminelorraine20:

Did you pass English class? You didn't cite properly. And we don't care about your statistics.

OP Tell your H to do it!!!!! He will do great

I actually didn't have to take English 101, 201, or Upper Division Writing because of AP English credits and successful completion of an upper division writing requirement exemption exam. I didn't want to waste time in a creative writing class when I could take International Economics instead! I haven't taken an English class since high school, but there are of course other classes where one is required to properly cite sources. What I did there was sarcastic citing. No MLA required in TN TOS, because if it was, I'm sure a helpful mod would have happily pointed that out to me. LMGTFY is so much more fun when pointing out a simply found resource.

And no, I'm not stalking you. Just sarcastically pointing out that you're not in fact on the OTS selection board.

lovebug055 · October 2012

WishIcouldbeinthe'stan:
jasminelorraine20:

Did you pass English class? You didn't cite properly. And we don't care about your statistics.

OP Tell your H to do it!!!!! He will do great
I actually didn't have to take English 101, 201, or Upper Division Writing because of AP English credits and successful completion of an upper division writing requirement exemption exam. I didn't want to waste time in a creative writing class when I could take International Economics instead! I haven't taken an English class since high school, but there are of course other classes where one is required to properly cite sources. What I did there was sarcastic citing. No MLA required in TN TOS, because if it was, I'm sure a helpful mod would have happily pointed that out to me. LMGTFY is so much more fun when pointing out a simply found resource.
And no, I'm not stalking you. Just sarcastically pointing out that you're not in fact on the OTS selection board.

K

AlouetteBeans · October 2012

Some of you people are being legit silly in this post.

You're all saying, "we're not discouraging her, blah blah whatever" but Stan never said "don't do it, you'll never get in"

she said "he should wait until he has a stronger package so his chances of getting in are higher and he doesn't shoot himself in the foot." Which is sage advice.

Some of you are so defensive you can't see past your perceptions of how she is saying something to see the good intent behind it. She has been through the process, she knows what she is talking about.

Air Force Help Please, kinda long story :)

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