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Re: Republican debates tonight
Dh has random drug testing. Granted he's a pilot, but testing pilots doesn't mean they're druggies. It's just accountability. If you want to be trusted you submit to a drug test. If you want to be trusted with group given money that comes to you from tax payers, submit to a drug test. It's pretty reasonable.
I'm really late to the party, but I'm just getting a chance to read this. I only saw part of the debates, but I have a question. How are you middle to upper middle class and yet you pay no taxes? We take any tax breaks we qualify for too, but are far from paying 0 in taxes and I would consider us in that same category. I do believe in limiting government handouts, but mainly because I believe that the private sector can do a much better job helping people with that money. Local charities given the same money could do much more than a bunch of beurocrata X miles away.
Never thought about that. But I hope it's random otherwise it's really a waste of time. And I dint find anything wrong with drug tests. If I can have to take one when I'm working, why should you not expect to take one when you are getting help
This is also why you see a lot of rich people like the Facebook CEO or Bill Gates of Microsoft who startup foundations and donate their money to the foundation. It's a tax write-off for them, but they still control what happens to the money.
thanks ladies! I honestly didn't even realize that there were enough deductions out there to make a middle income earners tax bill 0! That's pretty insane to be honest. I'm betting more people end up doing that than the capital gains thing, but that makes sense too.
I'm going to pop in about drug testing. At both my current company and a company I worked at a few years back, you are drug tested when you are hired and then randomly drug tested. For companies that have drug testing, that is almost always how it works. The drug tests are random with the employees chosen and even random as to when they happen. For example, the next random test might happen one month later or three months later. There is no rhyme or reason to when tests are done. Which is how it should be.
Both companies I mentioned are in the engineering industry and most employee hours are billed to the various clients. Oftentimes, contracts with clients will mandate that the contracted employees are randomly drug tested.
I've worked for a lot of companies that included a "we can drug test you" form to sign in the new hire paperwork, even though they don't normally drug test. But let me tell you where that comes in...if you are involved in a workplace injury. Then they can drug test you and, if you pop for drugs or alcohol, it can be used as grounds to disqualify you from workmen's compensation.
As for welfare/food stamp recipients, I see no problem with drug testing and think it is a good thing. Although very few tests might come back positive...making one wonder if it is a waste of money...but would that be a totally different story if the recipients knew they would never/rarely be drug tested? I suspect it would. Millions of people in the U.S. struggle to pay for their legitimate prescription medications. So I sure as hell don't want my tax dollars going to pay for someone's recreational drugs.
Personally, I think (excluding those who mentally/physically can't work) that we should end the current system of just handing out money. If you're on welfare, you should be showing up somewhere to do things like picking up trash, cleaning a beach, etc. Something with some value to society.
Doesn't that violate our 4th Amendment rights?Personally, I will not work for a company that makes me take a drug test. However, companies have a right to run a safe and protective work place. This presents a total gray area. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm assuming he works for a private company? I'm assuming he can go and work for another company if he chooses?
As a matter of fact, most welfare recipients do have some form of a job. However, there are some welfare recipients that are completely unable to work. They are out of options. The only thing they have to depend on is that welfare check. That's why it's different.
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You are more than entitled to your opinion. I just don't think forcing welfare recipients to take random drug test does any greater good for this country. It doesn't save money, in fact it does the opposite. Also, marijuana/THC does wonders for a lot of people in pain and suffering from debilitating illnesses. (My MIL included). I imagine some of those people are also welfare recipients.
PS. My H didn't have to pee in a cup for his dream job, nor did I. However, we are not operating heavy machinery.
In the past, I had an interview with a company who...not only tested for drugs...they also tested for tobacco. You could not be a smoker and work for the company. They told me that straight up in the phone interview. It was one of the first questions asked because, I'm assuming if the answer is "yes I'm a smoker" the interview ends.
I assured the phone interviewer I was not a smoker, but could not help and ask why. Apparently they had some sweetheart deal with their medical insurance company that, if they didn't hire any smokers, they'd get extra low rates. It's the one and only time I've run into that and I've always found it so odd.
Unfortunately, I didn't get the job.