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Minimalism?

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  • I've gotten better about the cluttering as I've gotten older, but I still have a long way to go.

    I'd love to declutter.  I pull stuff out of boxes and everything has a "memory" attached.  Back into the box it goes. :(
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  • I've gotten better about the cluttering as I've gotten older, but I still have a long way to go.

    My H and I only have one bathroom in our house and it is a small one at that.  It's not usually an issue.  He has talked about wanting to add a 1/2 bath in our bedroom.  It's a good sized room, but I don't think its large enough for that and it has been a big veto on my end.

    we looked at a few houses with a master half bath and honestly were always turned off by them. Give me at least a shower in there or skip it in my opinion. I'd rather have a half bath that was for guests so they weren't in my main bathroom all the time. 
  • Speaking of clutter, we were at the in-laws this weekend, and she hoards crap like crazy....literally old crap. Their 1 car garage is stuffed they can't even use it and they have a storage unit...The knick-knacks in the cabinets are covered in tons of dust...it's pretty nasty. We offered to help them clean up in the spring...but we've offered the year before and it never happened. I just feel like there will be fights because she will want to keep everything for some stupid reason or other....the mess gives me anxiety when I am there, which is why we hardly go down, plus H sneezes all the time.
  • Speaking of clutter, we were at the in-laws this weekend, and she hoards crap like crazy....literally old crap. Their 1 car garage is stuffed they can't even use it and they have a storage unit...The knick-knacks in the cabinets are covered in tons of dust...it's pretty nasty. We offered to help them clean up in the spring...but we've offered the year before and it never happened. I just feel like there will be fights because she will want to keep everything for some stupid reason or other....the mess gives me anxiety when I am there, which is why we hardly go down, plus H sneezes all the time.
    We helped our in-laws with this very problem the last time we moved. My MIL tried to guilt me into taking all the crap she didn't want, but didn't want to store or move. I literally got comments like "oh well this was brought back from Israel by great-grandma so and so and it should stay in the family".  When I refused to take it she still ended up keeping it lol. My house is not storage for your sentimental crap! I'm ruthless though - before we were married she showed up at our apartment with a nasty old bookcase that she thought I could use. I wouldn't even let her in the house with it lol. I said "thank you for thinking of me, but we don't need a bookcase" and offered to put it out with our trash if she didn't need it either....she loaded it back into her car lol. 
  • I saw the toilet in the basement thing all the time in older houses in Chicago, so it's not just a Pittsburgh thing :)  

    I watched the documentary this weekend.  I fell asleep during part of it.  I mean, cool on the guy who can fit his entire life in a suitcase, but that's not for me.  Maybe I'm exactly the kind of person they talk about in the show, but I get pleasure over having things.  Nothing excessive, but like, I like to have options with my clothes.  I could never be one of those 30 wardrobe items type of people.  

    I've always been pretty good about purging though, mainly because before I came here in CO, I moved like every year so that was always a natural time to purge.  I do get a bit stuck on a few things, like kitchenware/dishware.  I have 5 sets of dishes, 2 of which are vintage ones that are still in boxes in the basement.  Then, at Christmas MIL asked if I wanted these little dessert plates that were her grandmothers.  I love the history attached to stuff like that, so I said "Sure!".  

    When it comes to things like clothes, I do try to be more mindful, and apply the Konmari method of "does this bring you joy".  I'm not perfect, but I really do love about 80% of the things in my closet.  
  • Oh and H is worse than me.  I cleaned out his office closet this weekend, and I found tax returns from like, 2003, or receipts from stuff he bought 10 years ago for less than $100.  
  • Speaking of clutter, we were at the in-laws this weekend, and she hoards crap like crazy....literally old crap. Their 1 car garage is stuffed they can't even use it and they have a storage unit...The knick-knacks in the cabinets are covered in tons of dust...it's pretty nasty. We offered to help them clean up in the spring...but we've offered the year before and it never happened. I just feel like there will be fights because she will want to keep everything for some stupid reason or other....the mess gives me anxiety when I am there, which is why we hardly go down, plus H sneezes all the time.
    FIL's GF is like this.  She has SO.MUCH.STUFF in her house.  They own 3 houses together, but the one in his hometown is where we stay, and it seriously gives me anxiety being there.  We stay there because they have a better set up than his mom's house does for our dogs, but I told him that next time we go, we either deal with it and stay with his mom, or we're boarding the dogs.  I just can't deal.  Like, I get it if you have lots of stuff, but it's not even clean.  
  • Speaking of clutter, we were at the in-laws this weekend, and she hoards crap like crazy....literally old crap. Their 1 car garage is stuffed they can't even use it and they have a storage unit...The knick-knacks in the cabinets are covered in tons of dust...it's pretty nasty. We offered to help them clean up in the spring...but we've offered the year before and it never happened. I just feel like there will be fights because she will want to keep everything for some stupid reason or other....the mess gives me anxiety when I am there, which is why we hardly go down, plus H sneezes all the time.
    FIL's GF is like this.  She has SO.MUCH.STUFF in her house.  They own 3 houses together, but the one in his hometown is where we stay, and it seriously gives me anxiety being there.  We stay there because they have a better set up than his mom's house does for our dogs, but I told him that next time we go, we either deal with it and stay with his mom, or we're boarding the dogs.  I just can't deal.  Like, I get it if you have lots of stuff, but it's not even clean.  
    YES! That's one thing DH and I got into a big fight about and what has prompted this latest declutter round. He had piles in the spare bedrooms and I couldn't even get in there to dust and vacuum for weeks. I'd reach around the piles with the vacuum hose to suck up obvious dirt/dog hair but that's not acceptable to me. I said "listen, there is no reason I shouldn't be able to dust, wash, and vacuum every surface in this house in 2 hours or less. I don't even ask you to clean I just ask that you keep your crap out of my way so that I can clean". We aren't where I'd like to be, but progress has definitely been made. 
  • Speaking of clutter, we were at the in-laws this weekend, and she hoards crap like crazy....literally old crap. Their 1 car garage is stuffed they can't even use it and they have a storage unit...The knick-knacks in the cabinets are covered in tons of dust...it's pretty nasty. We offered to help them clean up in the spring...but we've offered the year before and it never happened. I just feel like there will be fights because she will want to keep everything for some stupid reason or other....the mess gives me anxiety when I am there, which is why we hardly go down, plus H sneezes all the time.
    We helped our in-laws with this very problem the last time we moved. My MIL tried to guilt me into taking all the crap she didn't want, but didn't want to store or move. I literally got comments like "oh well this was brought back from Israel by great-grandma so and so and it should stay in the family".  When I refused to take it she still ended up keeping it lol. My house is not storage for your sentimental crap! I'm ruthless though - before we were married she showed up at our apartment with a nasty old bookcase that she thought I could use. I wouldn't even let her in the house with it lol. I said "thank you for thinking of me, but we don't need a bookcase" and offered to put it out with our trash if she didn't need it either....she loaded it back into her car lol. 


    My mother is a hoarder BIG time. She has completely filled her 3 bedroom house, their large shed, their one car over sized garage with an attic, a metal shipping/storage container, and three campers of various sizes with crap. She refuses to get rid of anything and I find it so frustrating! I can't even go to their house anymore because it makes me so anxious.

    For Christmas my dad just wanted us to come help him clean out the shed/garage in the spring which I'm all for, but my mom was pretty upset when my sister gave dad a "gift certificate" for our labor. I don't see that process going well. She got upset with my sister and I when we cleaned out their fridge while she gone and threw away condiments that were way expired and food that was old. I don't understand it, but I do think she needs professional help.  

    I would LOVE to be a minimalist to a point, but not as aggressive as the documentary. I don't have a problem getting rid of things that I don't use/want (unless they were gift, ugh I'm terrible about that), and I think that stems from my mom's hoarding tendencies. I watched this documentary thou and loved it! It did inspire me to get rid of crap.

  • Speaking of clutter, we were at the in-laws this weekend, and she hoards crap like crazy....literally old crap. Their 1 car garage is stuffed they can't even use it and they have a storage unit...The knick-knacks in the cabinets are covered in tons of dust...it's pretty nasty. We offered to help them clean up in the spring...but we've offered the year before and it never happened. I just feel like there will be fights because she will want to keep everything for some stupid reason or other....the mess gives me anxiety when I am there, which is why we hardly go down, plus H sneezes all the time.
    We helped our in-laws with this very problem the last time we moved. My MIL tried to guilt me into taking all the crap she didn't want, but didn't want to store or move. I literally got comments like "oh well this was brought back from Israel by great-grandma so and so and it should stay in the family".  When I refused to take it she still ended up keeping it lol. My house is not storage for your sentimental crap! I'm ruthless though - before we were married she showed up at our apartment with a nasty old bookcase that she thought I could use. I wouldn't even let her in the house with it lol. I said "thank you for thinking of me, but we don't need a bookcase" and offered to put it out with our trash if she didn't need it either....she loaded it back into her car lol. 
    LOL! This is probably what will happen!
  • I am not a minimalist, but everything in our house has a place, and we keep very few items in storage (mostly just holiday stuff and 2-3 sentimental boxes up in the attic).
      
    Like @julieanne china is my downfall.  I have 2 sets of china, 1 set of every day, and several key serving pieces in a separate holiday pattern.  I also have a lot of crystal and a set of sterling flatware.  That being said, I have a hutch and a butler's pantry, so there is plenty of space in our house for all of this.  Everything is protected from dust, and we do use it when people come over.  My china patterns can mix together, so it lets me serve 24 in a pinch (which I did for our Christmas party a couple weeks ago).

    We have enough space on our bookcase for our books.  We have enough space in our closet for clothes.  I really don't overfill or overstuff anything, and when a space starts to feel cramped that's when I declutter.

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  • I have been slowly decluttering over the last couple years. We just celebrated our 10 year anniversary and I finally got rid of some stuff from the wedding like the response cards, and bridal shower cards. 

    My my mom has been purging which I'm thankful for.  My inlaws moved a couple years ago and purged the house they had been living in for 30+ years. They filled two dumpsters. Unfortunately their new house is probably twice the size and knowing them, they are slowly filling it. I try to gently remind them that when they have move out or die, I'm going to be the cleaning it out
  • @hoffse, always nice to meet another dishaholic!  I didn't even mention that in addition to the 5 sets (all of 6-8 except our wedding dishes which is 16 settings), I also have 3 or 4 boxes full of depression glass, a set of silver (just plated, but it was from my grandmother's wedding) flatware, and 2 sets of regular everyday flatware (his and mine).  

    I had visions of having a large built-in china hutch to put it all in, but then when building this house, we realized there was nowhere to put one because of the open concept floor plan we have.  I think when we do our basement I'm going to have  large, built-in, glass front, floor to ceiling cabinets put down there, so maybe then I can display at least some of this stuff.  For the stuff handed down to me, I just have no idea how I can get rid of it, I'd feel guilty.  
  • Oh man, china. It's nice to hear that many of you are finding ways to utilize multiple sets. MIL fought tooth and nail to get her mom's china after she passed away, and never fails to mention how it will be mine someday when we're over for dinner (awkward!) I'll also end up with MIL's own wedding china as well as my mom's china. I'm a bit overwhelmed by the prospect. 
  • Oh man, china. It's nice to hear that many of you are finding ways to utilize multiple sets. MIL fought tooth and nail to get her mom's china after she passed away, and never fails to mention how it will be mine someday when we're over for dinner (awkward!) I'll also end up with MIL's own wedding china as well as my mom's china. I'm a bit overwhelmed by the prospect. 
    We only have our one wedding set, but I'm glad that I LOVE my mom's set since I'll get it someday (hopefully very far into the future though). I think mix and match is fun and I think our patterns would work well enough together to do it. Otherwise I'll alternate. My MIL has "nice" dishes, that I don't really see how they are different from the every day stuff except that the pattern is a little different but it isn't china. I hope we don't get stuck with it......
  • Oh man, china. It's nice to hear that many of you are finding ways to utilize multiple sets. MIL fought tooth and nail to get her mom's china after she passed away, and never fails to mention how it will be mine someday when we're over for dinner (awkward!) I'll also end up with MIL's own wedding china as well as my mom's china. I'm a bit overwhelmed by the prospect. 
    We only have our one wedding set, but I'm glad that I LOVE my mom's set since I'll get it someday (hopefully very far into the future though). I think mix and match is fun and I think our patterns would work well enough together to do it. Otherwise I'll alternate. My MIL has "nice" dishes, that I don't really see how they are different from the every day stuff except that the pattern is a little different but it isn't china. I hope we don't get stuck with it......
    I feel both blessed and cursed. I have two SILs so I luckily don't have to worry about getting handed over a ton of stuff from my MIL since I'm sure my SILs will be offered most things first anyway and DH doesn't care one way or another about most of it. However, I also have two sisters and my mom only has a couple of sets, so when that day far in the future comes, we'll all have to be mindful of each other and do our best to share and be fair about everything.
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    I might be the oddball but I've never wanted China. My grandma had given me her set and I used it a handful of times mainly for everyday until we got a cheap everyday set years ago, but after taking up room in my basement I gave it to my dad. Now we just have a nice 12 piece everyday set we use ($45 per plate!) Plus we don't host any holidays so there is no need for china
  • Oh man, china. It's nice to hear that many of you are finding ways to utilize multiple sets. MIL fought tooth and nail to get her mom's china after she passed away, and never fails to mention how it will be mine someday when we're over for dinner (awkward!) I'll also end up with MIL's own wedding china as well as my mom's china. I'm a bit overwhelmed by the prospect. 
    We only have our one wedding set, but I'm glad that I LOVE my mom's set since I'll get it someday (hopefully very far into the future though). I think mix and match is fun and I think our patterns would work well enough together to do it. Otherwise I'll alternate. My MIL has "nice" dishes, that I don't really see how they are different from the every day stuff except that the pattern is a little different but it isn't china. I hope we don't get stuck with it......
    My mom has 4 sets, and I'm an only.  So I will be getting more someday (hopefully in the very far future).  There is one set I would absolutely keep, unless I have a kid someday who wants it.  The rest will probably be sold.

    My MIL doesn't have as much, and what she does have is not to my taste, so I really don't want it.  That being said, she only had boys until the first grandbaby, which is a girl.  The boys don't care about it, and MIL is not close enough to any of her daughter in laws to pass stuff down to us.  I think the granddaughter is going to get stuck with most of MIL's stuff.
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  • Not to highjack this thread, but this issue of older family members hoarding stuff and then passing it down to a younger generation is a real one - what, if anything, would you all keep?  How do you plan to handle a huge load of stuff that you don't want?
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  • hoffse said:
    Not to highjack this thread, but this issue of older family members hoarding stuff and then passing it down to a younger generation is a real one - what, if anything, would you all keep?  How do you plan to handle a huge load of stuff that you don't want?
    I am going to inherit everything from my parents and I will keep what I like and/or is sentimental to me and then let other family take a pass at things they may want. After that it's estate sale time. I know both of my parents would much rather me sell everything and use the money to put their grandkids through college so I won't have much guilt.

    DH and his brother have two uncles that never married and never had children. They've already said they are leaving their massive collections of tacky art to us. I hope by the time that comes DH will be fully on the minimalist bandwagon with me hahahaha. 
  • hoffse said:
    Not to highjack this thread, but this issue of older family members hoarding stuff and then passing it down to a younger generation is a real one - what, if anything, would you all keep?  How do you plan to handle a huge load of stuff that you don't want?


    This is honestly a huge burden that I really don't want to be faced with when my parents pass, which is hopefully a very very long time from now because I love them dearly.

    A part of me has jokingly said I would just burn the house and all the stuff. It's just a joke, but given the man hours (WEEKS) it will take for us to clean everything out it would technically be easier but also illegal and a terrible idea.

    There are few things I will want to keep. My dad has an awesome Hess truck collection that my sister and I would probably separate and keep. And I would probably keep some of my moms collectibles along with some of the antique furniture. The majority of the stuff would either be donated or thrown away thou (given the amount of stuff the majority of it is not worth keeping). Big things like tools, tractor, etc. will probably be divided out based on what we need.

  • Yeah I've pretty much told my parents what I will be keeping, so my mom is making an effort to sell the rest of it, thank goodness.  It's slow going though, and she acquires more as she continues to sell...  

    I told her I would keep certain pieces of jewelry, a few very valuable paintings from a single artist that H and I really like (my dad inherited them, and collectively they are worth about as much as the house), the 1 set of china I do love, and a few (very few!) sentimental knick-knacks.  Otherwise, it's gone.

    My mom has a lot of purging to do.

    On my H's side, there isn't much... but there are a couple of very expensive watches H will fight over.  There is also an entire curio cabinet of ivory that's been passed down from some great great uncle who lived in modern-day tanzania - several full tusks and probably a dozen carved half-tusks.  I am way super opposed to taking ANY ivory for the obvious reasons, but H will fight me on it.  We are pretty sure it was brought into the US legally, but we don't have any documents to prove it.  Anyway, we can't sell it, so H wants to keep it.
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  • hoffse said:
    Not to highjack this thread, but this issue of older family members hoarding stuff and then passing it down to a younger generation is a real one - what, if anything, would you all keep?  How do you plan to handle a huge load of stuff that you don't want?
    Luckily I have siblings...so it will be fairly easy to split stuff up and it shouldn't leave a ton. I think what we'll end up keeping will be the personal stuff - photo albums, family china and silver, and jewelry, and really, all of that doesn't add up to much when you're splitting it three ways. I assume we'll donate quite a bit to charity or have an estate auction.
  • hoffse said:
    Not to highjack this thread, but this issue of older family members hoarding stuff and then passing it down to a younger generation is a real one - what, if anything, would you all keep?  How do you plan to handle a huge load of stuff that you don't want?
    Depending on what the stuff is, I don't think I would feel too guilty for giving away, selling and/or throwing out 'junk'-type non-sentimental items. Sentimental, heirloom, and useful items I would definitely keep.

    My grandma moved out of her house recently and I inherited a lot of house/tool items, but also some sentimental items, and I had no problem with this. If it were junky stuff that has no use or emotional attachment, I would most definitely put my foot down. I've inherited my late grandma's china, as well as jewelry from her and her sisters. It's touching to be gifted/trusted with these items and I cherish them, but I feel like it's a big responsibility lol. My mom recently passed down some beautiful antique rings and now I should probably add them to the jewelry rider on our insurance.
  • hoffse said:
    Not to highjack this thread, but this issue of older family members hoarding stuff and then passing it down to a younger generation is a real one - what, if anything, would you all keep?  How do you plan to handle a huge load of stuff that you don't want?


    This is a worry of mine but, potentially (hopefully) an unfounded one.  My poor mom had to get my grandma a big storage unit because she couldn't bear to part with her 1,000+ albums.  Yes, vinyl albums.  And her other big collections of stuff.  But, assuming my grandma predeceases my mom, I'm assuming all that stuff will "disappear" after she's passed.

    My mom used to have a LOT of stuff.  But then she moved out of my childhood home when she got remarried and I think she purged a lot when she moved out of it.  Though I think there is another storage unit hanging out somewhere.  I'm pretty sure she still has her large collection of music and cookbooks.

    Unfortunately for my sister and my mom's H, a lot of that is going to fall on them.  I'll take visits out to help weed through stuff, but they're the ones who live in the same area.

    My mom has said not to feel as if we have to keep her sentimental things after she is gone.  She has also pointed out items that may not seem valuable, but are.  Not because she expects us to keep them, but because she doesn't want us to give them away not realizing their value.

    I think the vast majority of it will be given away or sold.  I'm sure there will be a few things I want, but probably not much.  I suspect my sister feels the same way.

    The only China set I know of is the one my mom and dad got when they got married.  I don't even know if it is still around and I don't want or need it anyway.

  • julieanne912julieanne912 member
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    I only have one sibling (who really is a minimalist), but I don't think my mom would expect me to take something I didn't want.  Like, she has Wedgewood wedding dishes that are worth a lot, (like Replacements has one dinner plate priced at $70), but the pattern is not something I'm at all interested in... it's very 1970s (Quince if anybody cares haha).  I'll probably try to help her sell it so she can at least get money for it while she's still around to use it.  

    That's one of the reasons I'm driving out to her in April, to spend the week going through her house with her to help her purge, and to take what I want.  They're moving out here to CO but the goal is to downsize.

    She DID ask me if either my brother or I wanted all the giant tubs of legos that she still has from when we were kids.  My brother, being the minimalist, said no.  I'm like heck yeah, I'll take those, legos are expensive and are good to have around even if we don't have kids! 
  • To lighten the mood, funny heirloom story.

    When my H and I were first talking about getting married and shopping for rings, though we weren't engaged yet, my mom offered to give me her wedding set from my dad...if I wanted it.  I'd always liked it, talked it over with my H, and we went that route.  We also used my dad's ring (he's passed away) in the ceremony for my H.  My H didn't want a ring permanently, because he said he doesn't like rings and wouldn't wear it.

    At our brunch the next day, my H commented that it would be really special to pass down my mom's wedding set to either my niece (5 at the time) or my nephew (2 at the time).

    I gave him a big smile, told him that was a great idea, and added, "And NOW is the perfect time to start saving for my replacement set!"  We were laughing uproariously for a few minutes on that one, lol.

  • hoffse said:
    Not to highjack this thread, but this issue of older family members hoarding stuff and then passing it down to a younger generation is a real one - what, if anything, would you all keep?  How do you plan to handle a huge load of stuff that you don't want?
    From what I learned going through my grandma's cluttered house is you keep, toss, or donate. The only things I would keep are things/items we would use in our house/personal life, any sentimental items, and pictures.
  • I worry about this a lot. MIL's family places a lot of value in material hand me downs so she's constantly talking about all the things I will "get," and not just the china. I will end up with 3 diamond engagement rings in addition to my own, for example. All are very sentimental to someone and it would be crazy hurtful to H's family to sell them, but we are likely only having one child and I'm certainly hoping he won't have to utilize all three! My mom also inherited three rings from her mom, but with three female cousins she simply gave one to each of us, with my absolute blessing. I wish H would have used it for our engagement ring but he could not be swayed from purchasing his own.  With H's family, there are many more people involved so giving them away would be quite fraught with drama. Even now, every time we visit MIL she sends me away with a (much less valuable) piece of her mom's jewelry. I don't wear a lot of jewelry and I'm so afraid of losing them all. 

    With the china and items like that, I'll probably touch base with some of H's female cousins that I've gotten to know and try to find the best home for certain sentimental items that aren't a good fit for us to hold on to. I'll leave those final decisions up to H since it's his family. 

    One thing I'll need to figure out a plan for is that we are also going to inherit a timeshare. It will be paid for, but still. Ugh. H is already sort of in the "we might as well just use it" mindset but I don't share that view at all. The yearly maintenance fees alone make absolutely no sense. 
  • It will be nice if the younger generation will take some of my parents' stuff but based on how niece and nephews are being raised I don't know how much they will want hand me downs.

    When I went out on my own my mom took me "shopping" in grandma's basement and I got her deep fryer, crockpot, mixer, popcorn popper and maybe a couple of other appliances.  She was pretty much done cooking by this time.  Also some deaths of parents of friends/relatives resulted in some furniture for my house.  They were happy to give it to someone they knew and I was happy to be a 20 something with free good quality furniture for my house.
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