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Holding a grudge long term?

Ever get so put off by something a player, coach, or team did that it just totally left you cold for a team you once loved and cheered for?
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  • I think that would depend on how the situation in question was handled by the coaching staff / administration / other players, etc.  I don't think ANY team (Florida included) has been completely without scandal.  However, if the coaching staff takes appropriate disciplinary measures (if a player did something completely out of line, say, get behind the wheel drunk 5 days before the biggest game of the season), then I'm willing to move on.

    I'm less understanding when a coach does something off-putting.  Whether I would abandon my team would completely depend on the circumstances.  I really doubt I would, however, since a coach (although an ambassador of the program) is only one piece of the puzzle. 

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  • Unfortunately, I'm going to sound mental here. I lost all heart for the Dallas Cowboys when Landry was so wrongly fired without even giving him warning. I've never felt like cheering them again. He learned of it when reporters rushed him on a golf course. If Jones would have informed him before announcing the new coach I would not have lost my liking for the team. The man spent pretty much his entire coaching life with them.  I have no idea why, but it bothers me still.
  • I'm still a bucs fan, but not as much as I used to be. I hold a grudge over how they treated John Lynch. The whole thing was ridiculous.

  • Well - not sure if this is what you meant, ha - but the city of Baltimore holds a pretty big grudge against the Colts.  I mean, come on, whenever Indy plays in Baltimore they are referred to as "the visiting team from Indianapolis" and they put "Indy" on the scoreboard, not "Colts."  We have the Ravens now obviously but its still a really big sore spot.
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  • imagemrsbecky07:
    Well - not sure if this is what you meant, ha - but the city of Baltimore holds a pretty big grudge against the Colts.  I mean, come on, whenever Indy plays in Baltimore they are referred to as "the visiting team from Indianapolis" and they put "Indy" on the scoreboard, not "Colts."  We have the Ravens now obviously but its still a really big sore spot.

     

    omg its insane! When I moved to Bmore, I very quickly got sick of all of the Mayflower truck comments :D

  • I grew up a Dodgers fan due to their longtime spring training home being in Vero Beach, FL where I lived.  I stuck with them even after the Marlins started, but when the Rays started playing, I adopted them as my favorite AL team, especially after I moved to Tampa.  The ownership changes the Dodgers went through had me teetering toward making the Rays my only favorite, but when the Dodgers abandoned Vero Beach for their single A farm team (replaced with a Tampa Bay farm team) and eventually abandoned VB altogether, I compared to to the Dodgers leaving Brooklyn and decided it was okay to love the Rays and only the Rays. 

    There is a part of me that will forever remember the Dodgers winning the World Series in '88 and all of the memories I had growing up around Dodgers spring training and their farm team, but I've moved on to a team that I'm going to follow no matter what they do going forward. 

  • I don't think I could ever be mad at the Gators, but I do hold some long-term grudges against other teams.  I've hated ND since 92.  And I doubt anyone involved with their team at the time is still there.  So there's no reason to hate them, but I do.  : )
  • I haven't been as big of a Mavs fan since they let go of Devin Harris last year. I'm still mad about that. Don't get me wrong - I adore Jason Kidd. But trading an up-and-coming NBA star for JKidd just didn't seem smart to me. I feel bad that Harris plays for a 2-19 team now.

    And, of course, I'm not an OU fan. I have respect for their athletics program, but I'm still not a fan.

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  • imagemrsbecky07:
    Well - not sure if this is what you meant, ha - but the city of Baltimore holds a pretty big grudge against the Colts.  I mean, come on, whenever Indy plays in Baltimore they are referred to as "the visiting team from Indianapolis" and they put "Indy" on the scoreboard, not "Colts."  We have the Ravens now obviously but its still a really big sore spot.

    The announcers mentioned that the last time they played! I thought it was hilarious!

    I don't like certain players and coaches for no real reason.  It's not like I know them personally; I just don't like them.  So wherever they may go, I turn against the team, but once they're gone, I'll come back.

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    imagemrsbecky07:
    Well - not sure if this is what you meant, ha - but the city of Baltimore holds a pretty big grudge against the Colts.  I mean, come on, whenever Indy plays in Baltimore they are referred to as "the visiting team from Indianapolis" and they put "Indy" on the scoreboard, not "Colts."  We have the Ravens now obviously but its still a really big sore spot.

     

    omg its insane! When I moved to Bmore, I very quickly got sick of all of the Mayflower truck comments :D

    My H (a Giants fan) makes fun of this all.the.time - "well at least MY team didn't pick up and leave in the middle of the night."  How annoying.

    And I have to say, it was pretty depressing growing up in a city that had a marching band but no team.

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  • 1) Brian Cox came to Buffalo with his cocky attitude and flipped off the entire stadium. He made me dislike the Dolphins even more than I already do - and this was like 15 years ago and I still remember it like it was yesterday.

    2) The whole Eli Manning and the NFL draft issues left a very sour taste in my mouth. I don't think I'll ever like him. I like Peyton though.

    ETA: I should note that I never loved/cheered for any of the players/teams above. And I just thought of one - the whole Andre Reed (Bills WR) fiasco at the end of the career makes me give a side eye to him. However, I still think he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.

  • I've never been a Miami Hurricanes fan but ever since Alabama played them in the 1993 Sugar Bowl, I can't stand them.  One of their players was talking smack to a reporter before the game and said that "they were going to go out there and teach Bama how to play football."  Well, Bama kicked their butts big time and won the national title for 1992.  That was many years ago but my dislike for Miami has never gone away.   I'm so glad that they are no longer a dominant team!!!
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  • I'm still mad over Michigan State planting their flag on ND's field.  Unacceptable.  Therefore, I hate Sparty.

    I also hate hate hate hate hate LSU because when I went to the Sugar Bowl in '07, the LSU fans were so unbelievably rude to us.  We were walking down the street, minding our own business, and random people would start yelling at us.

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  • imagebrideymcbriderson:

    I'm still mad over Michigan State planting their flag on ND's field.  Unacceptable.  Therefore, I hate Sparty.

    I also hate hate hate hate hate LSU because when I went to the Sugar Bowl in '07, the LSU fans were so unbelievably rude to us.  We were walking down the street, minding our own business, and random people would start yelling at us.

    They can be super rude! I was in Louisiana over the summer with my OSU stuff, and they were talking crap about how we couldn't hold a coach [Miles used to coach at OSU before he split after we got killed in the Alamo Bowl my freshman year at State...I think that was when the bowl was] and how Miles is better off at a REAL school. Really? I didn't even say anything to them - I was just wearing my orange!

    I don't like them, either.

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  • imagebrideymcbriderson:

    I'm still mad over Michigan State planting their flag on ND's field.  Unacceptable.  Therefore, I hate Sparty.

    I also hate hate hate hate hate LSU because when I went to the Sugar Bowl in '07, the LSU fans were so unbelievably rude to us.  We were walking down the street, minding our own business, and random people would start yelling at us.

     

    This is why I hate Michigan. I've been to ND games there twice. Both times were horrible. Frats turned hoses on people as they walked by, I had old men making rape jokes at us, and one year they hung a doll made to look like Ty Willingham from a tree (noose and all). I was so beyond disgusted.

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    This is why I hate Michigan. I've been to ND games there twice. Both times were horrible. Frats turned hoses on people as they walked by, I had old men making rape jokes at us, and one year they hung a doll made to look like Ty Willingham from a tree (noose and all). I was so beyond disgusted.

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    Wow.  The Sugar Bowl was the only away game I've been to.  I have a more visceral reaction to Michigan State than I do Michigan because of the flag-planting.

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  • imagebrideymcbriderson:
    imageIrishBrideND:

    This is why I hate Michigan. I've been to ND games there twice. Both times were horrible. Frats turned hoses on people as they walked by, I had old men making rape jokes at us, and one year they hung a doll made to look like Ty Willingham from a tree (noose and all). I was so beyond disgusted.

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    Wow.  The Sugar Bowl was the only away game I've been to.  I have a more visceral reaction to Michigan State than I do Michigan because of the flag-planting.

     

    oh the flag planting pisses me of to no end. How freaking rude can you be?

    But, I will give them credit for writing into the Observer and apologizing (at least the first time they did it). It still ticks me off, though.

  • Absolutely. I will never like Michigan because of the whole Rich Rod departure. I cheer for their losses. I hate him and the way he left WVU. After publicly proclaiming that he was not leaving, resigning a contract and getting all this money for our facilities (based on himm being the coach) he abandoned our team overnight. Who does that before a BCS bowl? Seriously.
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    Absolutely. I will never like Michigan because of the whole Rich Rod departure. I cheer for their losses. I hate him and the way he left WVU. After publicly proclaiming that he was not leaving, resigning a contract and getting all this money for our facilities (based on himm being the coach) he abandoned our team overnight. Who does that before a BCS bowl? Seriously.

    I was just going to post this. It was right around this time of December 2007 (maybe a week later) when he split. I was Christmas shopping when my MIL called to tell me the news. I almost pitched a fit in the middle of the mall!

    I don't so much hate John Beilein for leaving for Michigan, because he did it in a classy way (not in the middle of the season). Coaches don't typically stay at the same school for decades like they used to. But what Rich Rodriguez did was classless, and West Virginians will not forget this quickly.

    I have a visceral reaction when I so much as see someone wearing a Michigan shirt, and I have to stop myself from telling them off. (Note to self: The Michigan fan is not necessarily a bad person, just misguided.)

     ETA: I will feel really badly for Cincinnati if Brian Kelly splits for ND before the Sugar Bowl.

  • oh, and I hate BC because of the 1993 season debacle. Although, admittedly, I was never a fan. But that year moved it from dislike to hate.
  • I *kind of* hate BC, VT, and Miami for leaving the Big East in shambles, but I'm starting to get over it.
  • For me it's the University of Louisville/Rick Pitino.

    I grew up a UK fan, but my dad and some other members of my family were U of L fans, and while there was a rivalry when they played, I would still root for U of L in the tournament and stuff b/c they were a local team [I grew up near Louisville].  However, once they hired Rick Pitino, I hated them.  And him.  Dirty traitor.

    I had no problem when he left UK to go to the Celtics, and I loved Tubby Smith, but it just seemed so wrong for him to go to U of L.  Also, if you lived in Louisville at the time, which I did - there was a Maker's Mark billboard that said, "Hey Rick, wearing red always worked for us." EW.

    Anyway, now I hate him, never root for the Cards and taunt my family at every opportunity.

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     ETA: I will feel really badly for Cincinnati if Brian Kelly splits for ND before the Sugar Bowl.

    I will feel bad for Cincy, but at least Kelly hasn't done the whole "I plan to stay at Cincinnati for a long time" bit that so many coaches have done right before leaving.  Ever since his name's been mentioned, he's said that he would consider it.  The fact that he's talking with ND has been pretty public.

    It will suck for the players to lose their head coach right before the bowl game, but I have no doubt that ND told him take it now and start recruiting immediately or forget it.

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    2) The whole Eli Manning and the NFL draft issues left a very sour taste in my mouth. I don't think I'll ever like him. I like Peyton though.

     

    This.

  • imageGatorHightowers:
    I don't think I could ever be mad at the Gators, but I do hold some long-term grudges against other teams.  I've hated ND since 92.  And I doubt anyone involved with their team at the time is still there.  So there's no reason to hate them, but I do.  : )

    Anything to do with the Sugar Bowl?  I have a friend who I think holds his grudge against ND because of this, too. 

  • I pretty much hated Aaron Rodgers for two years because he told Packers fans:

    "I don't feel I need to sell myself to fans. They need to get on board now or keep their mouths shut."


  • imageTeraandJosh:

    1) Brian Cox came to Buffalo with his cocky attitude and flipped off the entire stadium. He made me dislike the Dolphins even more than I already do - and this was like 15 years ago and I still remember it like it was yesterday.

    2) The whole Eli Manning and the NFL draft issues left a very sour taste in my mouth. I don't think I'll ever like him. I like Peyton though.

    ETA: I should note that I never loved/cheered for any of the players/teams above. And I just thought of one - the whole Andre Reed (Bills WR) fiasco at the end of the career makes me give a side eye to him. However, I still think he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.

    I definitely remember this - I think my dad was at that game.  Even though it's not as great a rivalry as it once was, I still dislike the Dolphins.  I hold a grudge more against the Giants & Cowboys for winning those Super Bowls (although not the Redskins, oddly) - yet my hatred has softened against the Giants since DH is a fan.

  • imageMikes1Gal:

    I definitely remember this - I think my dad was at that game.  Even though it's not as great a rivalry as it once was, I still dislike the Dolphins.  I hold a grudge more against the Giants & Cowboys for winning those Super Bowls (although not the Redskins, oddly) - yet my hatred has softened against the Giants since DH is a fan.

    haha - ditto, ditto, ditto! That's really odd now that I think about it!

  • ok.. thanks ya'll! Now I don't feel quite like I'm super mental over the Cowboys. I"m almost normal. lol
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