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I agree with Nicole on donating to Haiti. Sorry it took a disaster for this to happen, yeah it's sad but so are a lot of other things in this world. I may come off as cold hearted in this matter.

 Also I do have a problem with asking someone how are you going to contribute/donate. It's a very personal question to ask someone. This is why  I hate being hounded by Salvation Army around the holidays. I will make a donation if I want to.

And if I do donate it's hardly ever with money. It's items that are generally needed: food, clothing, first aid, etc...

 

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  • I wholeheartedly agree. What and how I donate isn't something that other people need to know. And for the love of pete, don't guilt-trip me about it. 
  • Andy, tell the truth .. it's because it's Haiti?
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  • HE, the only reason you are complaining about this is because to you it's a black and white issue. how would you react if a black person decided they'd not do anything?
  • Wifezilla, I'm bitching cuz it's a America-Haiti issue & yes, Haitians just happen to be people of color.

    It's just amazing that you all are so quick to judge me on my racism, but miss the point in general.

    9/11 happened & the problem was solved immediately
    Katrina happened & the ball was dropped so dayum deep, New Orleans will never be the same every again.
    A tsunami happened on the other side of the freaking world & America couldn't contribute fast enough.

    Don't you ever black/white me until you walk a block in my life!

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  • The Tsunami happened at a very different financial time for most people.
  • HE, I don't disagree that racism happens. I don't disagree that what happened with Katrina was reprehensible and disgusting.

    That said, I feel the same as Nicole about Haiti. My dad while in the military routinely went to Haiti to deliver aid. He hates Haiti, and it has NOTHING to do with the color of people's skin. It's that the government has repressed the people and are ineffective in providing basic medical services. Last I looked HE, the Haitian president isn't a white man. The people there have come to rely so much on aid from other organizations and countries, that there isn't much impetus to rise up and make changes. Do I feel horrible that this disaster happened? Yes. But this is what it took for Haiti to get their schit together? Fecked up. And that's not black or white.

  • uh huh. well, it's always a black/white issue with most things you post. it's as if that's the only way you see things. maybe i am wrong, but that's not how it comes off.

    to me, it seems that the US can't contribute fast enough to Haiti either. when i heard all about it on the news ovr the past few days, i kept thinking how fast we're ready to jump to give foregin aid, but when it comes to our own people (ALL PEOPLE, not just black or white or anyone in between), we drag our ass.

    FTR, i am doing a few things here for aid contribution. but it's bittersweet when i drive past crappy ass neighborhoods that our people (all people) don't give 2shts about. to me, it's the news of the week and that leaves a sour taste in my mouth. but, i am doing what i can for this particular cause.

    so it's not always black and white. it's sad that it has to be that way for some IMO.

  • You know, I feel like I've contributed to Haiti.  My sDad and Dad served in the military in Haiti in the 90s.  Those were YEARS without my parents.   Maybe I'm not sending a check, but I can only hope that my parents were able to do some good while I was "missing" them.

    Andplusalso, if you want to go all RPOTD with it, did you know that I contribute annually to the NAACP?  Probably not.  Do *I* directly benefit from the organization?  No.  But do I think it's a worthy cause and worth my $.02 each year? Yes.  Do I think that there are a lot of benefits I can receive indirectly from my contribution?  Yes, my president is black.

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  • I've always had a soft spot for Haiti. I can't understand if there are 2 people on a raft, 1 Haitian and ! Cuban, we know which one gets sent back.

     

    However, this situation is not political for me. It's about people needing help, and me doing my small part to help.

     

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  • NOLA, that's fecking BS. Unless they set foot on American soil, both the Haitian and the Cuban get sent back.
  • All I posted was .. Andy, tell the truth .. it's because it's Haiti? .. & I asked what y'all were doing to aid the Haitian relief effort & y'all got all RPOTD on me!

    Y'all need dickinyourlife .. onebigdick to long stroke all of your repressed vaginas! 

    !  Loosen the hell up!

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  • Ok. Meg.

     

    If they both stick their pinky toe on the beach.However, there have been cases where they have both been picked up, and the Haitian has either been detained in jail for months, or sent back.

     

     

     

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  • imageNOLABridesmaid:

    However, this situation is not political for me. It's about people needing help, and me doing my small part to help.

     

    Ditto, Nola .. a sista just tryna do her part.

    @Nicole, how many black cards do you want, woman!

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  • ok, but what does that mean exactly? "...because it's Haiti?" are you really saying you were not referring to the fact that Haiti is not a white country?

    i personally see a lot of "why, because they're black/white??" in your posts. this is not out of the blue.

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    All I posted was .. Andy, tell the truth .. it's because it's Haiti? .. & I asked what y'all were doing to aid the Haitian relief effort & y'all got all RPOTD on me!

    Y'all need dickinyourlife .. onebigdick to long stroke all of your repressed vaginas! 

    !  Loosen the hell up!

     

    You know as well as we do that that was an intentionally loaded question. And are you really going to pull a Carrann and tell people who disagree with you that they need to get laid? Mature. 

     

  • What are you all smoking???? 

    People who have lost everything deserve our help as fellow humans no matter what the country as a whole has done in the past or who their president is.  I'm shocked at some of the arguments being made here.  Your logic is no better than Pat Robertson's to argue that they don't deserve help because of whatever attitude you have about the country as a whole.  This is NOT a political issue.

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    imageHisEarth.:

    All I posted was .. Andy, tell the truth .. it's because it's Haiti? .. & I asked what y'all were doing to aid the Haitian relief effort & y'all got all RPOTD on me!

    Y'all need dickinyourlife .. onebigdick to long stroke all of your repressed vaginas! 

    !  Loosen the hell up!

     

    You know as well as we do that that was an intentionally loaded question. And are you really going to pull a Carrann and tell people who disagree with you that they need to get laid? Mature. 

     

    OMG, TD, it was a JOKE!  Y'all are tripping today on the real!

    Oh, & as long as you live & breathe air, don't you ever compare me to Carrann, m'kay?

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  • HE it's not a black and white issue at all. I don't see someone for their race. I see them as people. I just don't want to donate right now. Money is tight. I have bills to pay.

       If I did have money then I would. And I did donate to Katrina (My uncle lives there and lost a lot.)

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  • imageNOLABridesmaid:

    However, this situation is not political for me. It's about people needing help, and me doing my small part to help.

    This is how I feel, exactly.  For my part, a lot of times need in this country is not the same as need elsewhere, and my personal philosophy is to give where it's needed most.  I don't feel that Americans are somehow more deserving of my charity because we live in the same county.  Yes, I've given money to First Book, the ASPCA, volunteered, etc.  I'm not bringing this up to pat myself on the back, but to say that to me, it's not a zero sum game.  You can give locally AND globally, if you choose.  And right now, if it comes down to books for kids who have none, versus water purification tablets and first aid supplies for people in Haiti, people's outright survival trumps the other causes.

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    ok, but what does that mean exactly? "...because it's Haiti?" are you really saying you were not referring to the fact that Haiti is not a white country?

    i personally see a lot of "why, because they're black/white??" in your posts. this is not out of the blue.

    I honestly was referring to Haiti being the redheaded stepchild of the world, not the fact that Haitians are ppl of color!

    Someone mentioned the Haitian gov't not doing right by it's people, that is so true.  But because Haiti doesn't have anything America wants/needs there is no rescue mission to bring down their gov't like Iraq!

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  • imageHisEarth.:

    Someone mentioned the Haitian gov't not doing right by it's people, that is so true. 

    I think so too.  And I don't think it's a valid reason not to give.  I'm not saying that anyone has to give anything, but don't use the fact that their government sucks as a reason not to donate.  That's like kicking them when they're down.  I wouldn't give money directly to the Haitian govt., but I will support NGOs who are on the ground trying to get medical supplies and clean water to people who don't really have much else.

  • I think it's important for people to give of themselves.  Whether it be time, money, expertise, food, resources, etc.the donation is a representation of the individual's convictions.  It is personal.

    I would also like to say that 9/11 is not over.  The health and environmental aftermath is still being felt and is not even close to being understood.

  • Zsa, I'm not very suprised.

     

    I think dogs get more love on this board than people at times.

     

    Carry on.

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  • I agree Nola ( with all of what you have said) Zsa too.  Sometimes I read things and think that I am really glad that the majority of the people I am around IRL don't have these opinions.
  • I think everyone has the right to choose how/if they volunteer or donate. Some people give to humanitarian causes, others to animal related organizations. I think as long as everyone does something, it should all work out.

    That being said, when something as devastating as this happens, $10 to the Red Cross isn't a bad idea.

    I don't think of this as a race issue, but then again, I'm not haitian or AA.

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    I agree Nola ( with all of what you have said) Zsa too.  Sometimes I read things and think that I am really glad that the majority of the people I am around IRL don't have these opinions.

    Ditto, PK ..

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  • And, by the way I have missed you on here HisEarth. I like hearing DD stories and the such, I always think we have a lot in common. I guess I just relate to a lot of your situations. I think if I lived close I would really like you and Nola IRL.
  • Well, I didn't donate based off some idea of race/religion/creed/nationality.

    I donated based off the idea that literally hundreds of thousands of lives have been completely devastated by this. That children are pulling their dead parents out of rubble, and parents are pulling their dead children out of rubble. If I could have donated to the tsunami effort I would have. I donated time to Katrina. People's lives were destroyed. It's not afucking race issue. It's a people issue. It's not like they're standing around begging for change because they just can't see fit to get a job. 

    I don't give ashit if nobody else donated. I did what I wanted to do because I wanted to do it. If i could take time off from work and had the skills to go to Haiti and help out? I would. But that's me. I'm not going to judge someone else for their actions. 


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  • Peg, I think I'm cool people.:)

     

     

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  • I think you are too!!
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