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Debate on?
Have they changed the topic this week from National Security? God, I hope so otherwise waste.of.time, imo, in regards to having to occur this week. If it has changed to domestic policy then I will change my tune.
Re: Debate on?
I believe I said to discuss it now (as in this week). I am in the switch the order camp.
So are you saying that if they can't debate the economy they shouldn't debate at all this week?
Sorry, this position is a strange one, especially given that neither McCain nor Obama will be able to do much in Washington at this point since we are at the end of negotiations and we are only asking that they debate for 2 hours, not run off to an island and compete a la Survivor in a a three month competition.
The benefits don't outweigh the negatives.
See, this position is odd to me. I am actually changing my stance on any debate this week-even economics due to prep time taking them away from their jobs as senators. I don't think a debate has to happen this week, imo. Next week is fine once the bill/etc are 100% done. Their job is to be there and getting this thing squared away, talking to constituents, etc. Preparing for a debate is not.
I totally don't agree.
- Neither can do much at this point in DC. They will be roaming halls and chatting about the election with their respective campaigns.
- A presidential debate is too imperative to just forgoe so that the two can wonder the halls of congress looking effective but actually doing nothng.
- I don't care the topic, I just really want to hear them debate. I have been waiting FOREVER for friday.
- I am still convinced this is all just about giving Palin more prep time.
Okay, I think it is just because the election is like crack to you as well. If you have been waiting forever, what is a few more days?
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In all honesty--I guess I will just agree to disagree since I don't think they need to be spending all this time prepping and not working on their respective committees, running investigations, etc. I am not supporting canceling-just postponing a few days. And the Palin thing-I responded to this below...don't think they need to postpone the VP debate.
From CNN Correspondent Dana Bash
(CNN) ? McCain supporter Sen. Lindsey Graham tells CNN the McCain campaign is proposing to the Presidential Debate Commission and the Obama camp that if there's no bailout deal by Friday, the first presidential debate should take the place of the VP debate, currently scheduled for next Thursday, October 2 in St. Louis.
In this scenario, the vice presidential debate between Joe Biden and Sarah Palin would be rescheduled for a date yet to be determined, and take place in Oxford, Mississippi, currently slated to be the site of the first presidential faceoff this Friday.
Graham says the McCain camp is well aware of the position of the Obama campaign and the debate commission that the debate should go on as planned ? but both he and another senior McCain adviser insist the Republican nominee will not go to the debate Friday if there's no deal on the bailout.
LOL!! Of course they want to delay the Palin debate. She has more studying to do.
I'm in the minority that thought suggesting postponing the debate on Friday was a clever and strategic move on McCain's part, but if they are seriously proposing to push back Palin's debate, then he's now just looking stupid. I think more and more people are starting to wonder what is going on with her, and if this whole pushing Fri's debate back because of the economy starts to look like they are pushing it back to protect her somehow, then they lose all credibility.
The Oct. 2 debate should remain in place for the VPs.
Well as I posted on a post below DH says the only debate he wants to hear this week is on the economy not foreign policy. He wants to hear foreign policy but later.
If they are not going to change the topic he thinks they need to be working in D.C getting the economic mess straight. And really he isn't that gungho on an economics debate over their doing their jobs in the Senate.
Again I will add he is an independent who has been eagerly awaiting the debates so he can make a decision on who to vote for.
Personally since my mind is made up I really don't care about the debates although I was looking forward to watching them. So for me I want them working right now not campaigning.
Mega dittos!
(Although, I personally feel that canceling the debates is akin to canceling the super bowl for me!)
Maybe the new rule should just be that no sitting member of congress can campaign ever because campaigning takes them away from the important work of congress. Seriously, what exactly do you think Obama or McCain can do at this 11th hour of the deal? And what makes you think that these duties cannot be simultaneously performed while they campaign?
If we are really going to carry this argument out...where else can we take it? Was it wrong for President Bush to campaign in 2004 when we were embroiled in a deadly war and he was commander in chief?
Ludicrous.
These men can debate each other and still be effective leaders.
Actually-it has always bothered me that a sitting member campaigns and if they lose, they have a fall-back.
Why does postponing equate to them not being able to handle crisises? I don't get that leap as being a sound one. It really is not the 2 hour debate that is the issue for me, but the 10s of 100s of hours spent prepping that is the problem.
I don't believe this would be the case since we have the 24 hour news cycle now.
We are 48 hours away so I don't think we need to worry about 10s of 1000s of hours of prep time. Lol. Most prep is done at this point.
Ditto this.
I really hope they don't delay the VP debate, though. While I think Obama and McCain should have the 1st debate, I think it'll still look bad to delay the VP debate.
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So, this economic bailout/bill just started today? If so, we are in bigger trouble than I thought---mainly because it is still NOT DONE. Not sure what the lol was for...::shrug::
Why does postponing equate to them not being able to handle crisises?
I don't understand your question. McCain is the one who wants to cancel the debate so that he can spend time handling the crisis. You need to ask him why he thinks both can't be done at the same time.
No...and I don't understand why you would think my statement implies that the economic crisis started today??? Are you suggesting that McCain purposefully didn't prep for this debate (that has been set for months in advance) and then, only when there was 48 hours left, tried to cancel it? That doesn't make McCain look great.
My question just means that it does not mean the other. I believe he is just saying the focus should be on the economy and the legislation to help curb the fallout...not that they can't be done at the same time, but that they should not be.
Actually, he is saying they can't be done at the same time, otherwise he would not have called for the postponement of the debate.
Because I think that they will still spending the next 48 hours preparing and you mentioned they are pretty much done. So, if there are only 48 hours left, I believe that they should be spending that time worrying about the crisis in this country-not the debate.
Edit-that should have been 100s of hours, not 1000s.
That is your opinion on the events (and I am sure others), but not everyone's. I do not want a leader that chooses to put out fires all while finding the time to participate in a 2 hour debate that can be delayed. Crisis and natural disasters can not.
Personally, I'd rather have a leader who can spare two hours to fight for the voters vs his opponent in a debate.
With all due respect, this is not my opinion. McCain said "no debate; must focus on economy" There is only one rational implication that you gather from this: both can't be done at the same time...
Well, with all due respect, I don't agree. Call me irrational, but there IS a difference here. You see can't do both. I see shouldn't do both. Both are opinions.
Why does postponing equate to them not being able to handle crisises?
Sorry, only working off your original statement, which was talking about ability to do both, not if they should do both.
If the question is "should they do both?" I feel that the answer is still yes. The bailout is working toward the natural conclusion without the added media circus of mccain & obama all up in it. I'd rather they not politicize it even more. Neither of them is president yet--keep auditioning, please. As a voter who's not too confident in our country's leadership right now, I'd like to be more confident, and I want to hear from two strong candidates who are vying for my vote. Court me, please, via debates. It's irresponsible for them to cancel/postpone a debate, when it might be the only exposure that many americans have to hearing their opinions.
I also think it's disrespectful.