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What do you think?
If you did not have health insurance, would you consider it assholish of your husband to want you to wait until tomorrow so you could see a doctor for PPD instead of going to the ER tonight?
Here's the OP from yesterday in which she asks if she could have PPD?
http://community.thenest.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/46551093.aspx
The update today where she says "I don't have health insurance and think I have PPD. What do I do?"
http://community.thenest.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/46599265.aspx
and the followup where her OB told her to go to the ER and her husband wants her to wait until tomorrow.
http://community.thenest.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/46602728.aspx
They're all calling her husband an *** for wanting her to wait another day. I'm having a hard time seeing how one day is that bad after seven months, but I'm clearly the only one that thinks so.
Re: What do you think?
I doubt it will be "thousands".
This person clearly has not spent a lot of time in hospitals.
I think PPD is something that can flare with tragic consequences. I have no way of knowing if that is the case with her.
It does seem like she is being fed into by a bunch of overreactive women on a message board into believing she is critical.
I don't think money problems is going to make her stress and PPD easier so I think waiting one day is probably best.
She needs to get some help from someone, a neighbor maybe, to give her a few minutes to pull herself together, pull together and wait until tomorrow.
The ER is not for "I think I have this" complaints. It's for emergent situations. So unless she is actively in crisis and is a danger to herself or her son right now, no, the ER is not the place to go.
What is she/her OB expecting the ER to do? Does she need to be committed? That's about all I can imagine the outcome being.
Husbands should be like Kleenex: Soft, strong, and disposable.
I will say I think her husband is an insensitive dbag for taking the "We can't afford this!!!!" route. That's a really shiitty thing to say to someone who's been told "You need to go to the ER right now." If you disagree with that, fine, express that, but don't base it on finances. Medical debt is a biitch but it's better than the alternative sometimes.
However, I still think that, unless she is actively in crisis, an ER is not the appropriate place to go and, without hearing more of the story (did she tell the OB she had a plan?), I think it was very wrong for the OB to say "I don't have time to see you, go to the ER."
Husbands should be like Kleenex: Soft, strong, and disposable.
IMO unless your psych condidtion is at 5150 status there is no value in going to the ER. It isn't a broken bone, it needs careful diagnosis, medication and follow-up. The ER is not the place for that.
Now, if she really is at 3 day involuntary hold status, get her in there.
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I agree with all of this. Her H sounds like an ass.
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I don't understand not having health insurance. I realize that is happening more and more with our current health care system and economy. But it still just seems so......give me a word here.
For less then ten cents a day, you can feed a hungry child.
Terrifying definitely fits.
Also, dumb. Just dumb. Why do we not have it for everyone. WHY?
Reckless? Irresponsible? Sad? All of the above?
Husbands should be like Kleenex: Soft, strong, and disposable.
You know, it does. For sure. But then I just feel like how do we not have this for everyone. Like, I realize that in some cases it could be irresponsible. But it shouldn't be so hard to get.
And I know now a lot of companies don't employ people directly but do contract, so that they don't have to provide benefits. That is sneaky. And crappy.
I think it's reckless and irresponsible that we, as a country, do not offer more options for everyone. Something has to break. Insurance is expensive. Healthcare is expensive. I hate how a large portion of the population has to leave just so a select group can keep their employer-paid fancy schmancy benefits. I want to punch people who say "Well, as it is now, my insurance is free, and Obama wants to make it so I have to PAY for it? Hell no!"
STFU you make 90M a year.
Husbands should be like Kleenex: Soft, strong, and disposable.
I bet her FUPA's name is Shane, like the gunslinger/drifter of literature.--HappyTummy
Does it make sense for the lobbyists for drug companies? And don't they run the government?
I bet her FUPA's name is Shane, like the gunslinger/drifter of literature.--HappyTummy
I hear ya bethie. Just trying to throw some conspiracy theory into the mix.
I think that contributes to the cost of healthcare, indeed.
But also, lawsuits/lawsuit insurance and the cost of school contribute.
In my family, Mr. Mod and I are the only people with health insurance. Neither of my brothers, their children, or my parents have it. My SIL is entitled to free health care through the Indian Health Service but the services seem fairly limited.
Oh and the point of my anecdote is. It is terrifying. I am terrified for them.
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yes, but, godforbid if you had needed a cesarean or anything had gone wrong.
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That's very true, and I can't imagine not having it for Ethan. All of those shots and well visits would get expensive fast.
Yeah, my MIL was against the healthcare reform because she was worried she'd have to wait longer for a doctor's appointment. I asked if she'd rather wait a few days for a flu shot or a few extra hours in the ER when she had an emergency.
There's a weird myopia to that kind of selfishness.
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I think our health insurance system is un-American.
The thoughts she has of something happening to her baby, along with feeling frustrated, tired, and alone seem like an emergency to me. I have a hard time disagreeing with her doctor. An ER is not the ideal place to treat depression but she could be a candidate for a psych admission.
And I don't think you can count imaging your child falling, etc in that group. I have those thoughts. All moms do. it is a normal part of parenthood.
Yeah, emergent situations. If she feels she might harm herself or her child tonight, or has a plan and the means to carry it out, that's a crisis.
Plus, honestly, as someone who has been through ERs numerous times myself (though not for psych situations), there's not much continuity of care. So unless she's at a point where she needs to be committed, she's better off seeing a doctor.
However, still think her husband's a dbag.
Husbands should be like Kleenex: Soft, strong, and disposable.
Most psych wards will only see you if you go through the ER first. At least, that has been my experience.
That's true. I'm just going based on my experience with PPD. I would think that if a doctor would want her to go to the ER then it may be serious enough for her to need hospitalization. It's hard to judge the real extent of PPD from a message board.