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How important is diversity (kid related)?

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Re: How important is diversity (kid related)?

  • Duh okla.  There are black people in the public schools here.

    I have met some really wonderful teachers in the East Baton Rouge school system, but I volunteer with magnet schools.  I have also heard some pretty terrible things about the teachers in general so I can't comment on that.  I have met a ton of kids who have chosen either an engineering or a science focus in their school, and have gotten into a magnet school by some wonder.  These are great kids, but they are behind where they should be in high school.  I shouldn't be judging senior science fairs, and only picking out one or two students that can tell me what the scientific method is.

    I don't care about metal detectors or what my kids get offered in the cafeteria.  I do care about them being offered AP classes, having the option to do extra-curriculars, and learning something besides what's on a standardized test.

    OH AND.  Our dumbshiit legislature and governor lowered the graduation requirements in 2009.  Even though we already have tons of people graduating high school who can't even read and do basic math.  They now don't even have to pass the 8th grade level reading/math test in order to get a diploma.  It is really a wonderful system. 



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  • imageSarahBethBR:

    Duh okla.  There are black people in the public schools here.

    I have met some really wonderful teachers in the East Baton Rouge school system, but I volunteer with magnet schools.  I have also heard some pretty terrible things about the teachers in general so I can't comment on that.  I have met a ton of kids who have chosen either an engineering or a science focus in their school, and have gotten into a magnet school by some wonder.  These are great kids, but they are behind where they should be in high school.  I shouldn't be judging senior science fairs, and only picking out one or two students that can tell me what the scientific method is.

    I don't care about metal detectors or what my kids get offered in the cafeteria.  I do care about them being offered AP classes, having the option to do extra-curriculars, and learning something besides what's on a standardized test.

    OH AND.  Our dumbshiit legislature and governor lowered the graduation requirements in 2009.  Even though we already have tons of people graduating high school who can't even read and do basic math.  They now don't even have to pass the 8th grade level reading/math test in order to get a diploma.  It is really a wonderful system. 


    Yea, he is running all of education into the ground. Even Higher ed. I mean really how much more does he expect the state schools that aren't LSU to cut? Perhaps the man should stay in the state for a bit and worry about Louisiana instead of the 2012 presidential elections. 

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    Those of you saying public school isn't an option - why, exactly? Do you think the private schools have better programs, better teachers, more resources, etc.? Are all the public schools in your area like Dangerous Minds?

     

    In my area, more often than not, a kid exits public school barely being able to read.   Couple that with overcrowded classrooms and crapppy facilities.  And, as I mentioned previously, I don't like white trash.

  • I'll never understand why people choose to live in places like that. There's my inflammatory statement of the day.

    The area where I'd like to eventually buy is technically in Boston. And I'm a-skeered of Boston Public. What to do, what to do.

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    I'll never understand why people choose to live in places like that. There's my inflammatory statement of the day.

    The area where I'd like to eventually buy is technically in Boston. And I'm a-skeered of Boston Public. What to do, what to do.

    I agree w/you.  My dream locale has reasonable housing prices and good public schools. I think it's somewhere in TX.  I haven't really figured that out yet.

     

  • TEXAS????? ::faints::
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  • Don't do it, Mulva.  Texas is going to secede and then you'll have to get a passport in order to come here.
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  • I guess I wonder if our schools sucks far more than they used to or whether the fact that everyone seems to see private schooling as necessary because we want to give our kids the "best." I don't know. I dislike white trash but I also dislike entitled rich kids.  I'm honestly unsure which I'd prefer to surround my kids with.
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  • This thread makes me happy to live in Iowa.  Decent COL and excellent public schools.  We left TX when my son was about 6 mos old, due in part to the horrible public school system in Ft. Worth.

    It's good that this thread makes me happy to live in Iowa because I've actively been hating Iowa for about the last 24 hours.  Flucking snow.

  • My husband did not go to a diverse school when he was younger and when he went to college he was shocked to discover the first Asian guy he met didn't have an accent.  He sounded just like him! 
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  • imageskhynes:
    My husband did not go to a diverse school when he was younger and when he went to college he was shocked to discover the first Asian guy he met didn't have an accent.  He sounded just like him! 

    Really?  Did he never watch tv?

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  • imageskhynes:
    My husband did not go to a diverse school when he was younger and when he went to college he was shocked to discover the first Asian guy he met didn't have an accent.  He sounded just like him! 

    With media exposure, I wonder if that could even happen to our kids. 

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  • Public schools stink because of state and local funding choices and stupid unfunded federal mandates. And parents that don't get involved or have an education themselves. and teach for america. And systemic poverty. Standardized tests. Not going year round. Not using rigorous curriculum. Just a few of my opinions on the matter. But we will still use them.
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  • True story, but I have no idea how it's possible.  Apparently he had only come across Asian people who worked in Chinese restaurants or something. 
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  • I love him, but I feel like my H was (and sometimes still is) incredibly sheltered.  Like we went to a wedding once and sat with two men (obviously a couple) who had twin babies with them.  One introduced himself and then introduced the other as his "partner".  My H told me later he almost asked him what kind of business they owned.
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  • imageskhynes:
    I love him, but I feel like my H was (and sometimes still is) incredibly sheltered.  Like we went to a wedding once and sat with two men (obviously a couple) who had twin babies with them.  One introduced himself and then introduced the other as his "partner".  My H told me later he almost asked him what kind of business they owned.
    Oh, Mr. Skyhiney.
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  • Thank god he at least had the decency to pause and consider what he was saying.  I would have been mortified otherwise.  It may have been the first time he had ever come in contact with someone who was gay (that he knew anyway).  He was 33.

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  • skyhyney, where do you live? where did he grow up? and what does he do for a living? I thought he was in the medical field?

    Kristen etal, what is wrong with Teach for America?

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  • imageskhynes:
    I love him, but I feel like my H was (and sometimes still is) incredibly sheltered.  Like we went to a wedding once and sat with two men (obviously a couple) who had twin babies with them.  One introduced himself and then introduced the other as his "partner".  My H told me later he almost asked him what kind of business they owned.

    That just made me LOL. 

  • imageBobLoblaw:

    I'll never understand why people choose to live in places like that. There's my inflammatory statement of the day.

    Because I can work here.  It's that simple for a lot of people.  There are a lot of jobs that exist mostly on the gulf coast.

    That, and the fact that the highs were in the 60s last week.


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  • I guess I feel like if all the educated workers flooded the schools with their children and got involved and demanded better schools, it would be a good first step.  I also don't think private schools always have better teachers or that young teachers (or Teach America) are necessarily inferior.
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  • The problem with Teach for America (particularly in challenging districts) is that they aren't trained educators. They don't have years of coursework in classroom management, pedagogy, or different instructional techniques required of teachers today. Five weeks of training isn't enough, and the ongoing support they get in their 2 years of service is very spotty and often dependent on the school they are placed with.

    The very best teachers need to be in our hardest to serve communities, not well meaning but inexperienced new graduates or professionals looking for a career change. I don't mean that it's a terrible program by any means, but it's not going to be the way that we raise the bar either. It's a stop gap to get bodies in classrooms.

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  • imageKristenBtobe:

    The problem with Teach for America (particularly in challenging districts) is that they aren't trained educators. They don't have years of coursework in classroom management, pedagogy, or different instructional techniques required of teachers today.

    Private school teachers often don't either.

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  • Totally, Fallin. In Ohio lots of the Catholic schools don't require a teaching certificate. WTF. Plus a few of my teacher friends who worked in Catholic schools make peanuts. The more time I spend in schools the more I appreciate how special a truly good teacher is.
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  • imagemodb1rd:

    skyhyney, where do you live? where did he grow up? and what does he do for a living? I thought he was in the medical field?

    He grew up in Georgia and Alabama for the most part.  We now live just outside of Orlando.  He is an regional vice president for a nursing home corporation.  I think a lot of it stems from the fact that he grew up in small towns and went to a small Seventh-Day Adventist college that wasn't very diverse.

     

     

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  • imageKristenBtobe:
    Totally, Fallin. In Ohio lots of the Catholic schools don't require a teaching certificate. WTF. Plus a few of my teacher friends who worked in Catholic schools make peanuts. The more time I spend in schools the more I appreciate how special a truly good teacher is.

    Yep, I'm not sure whether private schools are better or just better marketed.

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    imageKristenBtobe:
    Totally, Fallin. In Ohio lots of the Catholic schools don't require a teaching certificate. WTF. Plus a few of my teacher friends who worked in Catholic schools make peanuts. The more time I spend in schools the more I appreciate how special a truly good teacher is.

    Yep, I'm not sure whether private schools are better or just better marketed.

    I think this is very true and I am clearly a fan of different methods but often "buzz words" get in the way. I believe in just doing best practices.

    Kristen, Have you seen Waiting for Superman? It is amazing and touches a lot on Teach For America. It is an amazing idea in theory but plain and simple it isn't working the way it is suppose to. Mod, do I remember you saying you did the program? Did you feel prepared?

    Educ is going in a new direction, nobody without a certification should be in any classroom plain and simple, even an early childhood one and I don't mean day care but Pre-K type programs. Not that daycares shouldn't be certified but I don't think you need a masters degree to do the work.

  • imageFallinAgain:
    I dislike white trash but I also dislike entitled rich kids.  I'm honestly unsure which I'd prefer to surround my kids with.

    I'll take the ones w/out the guns and meth, thanks.

     No, but seriously, H and I have had this discussion a lot re what type of environment we want her in.  I agree w/ what you said above.  But, there has to be a happy medium.  I have friends that teach in public school, and it's knocked up 17 yrs olds on their 3rd kid who can't read.  I went to public school, and it just wasn't like the public schools we have here.  There are public schools out there that I would put my child in, it's just that they aren't in Mobile.  As a whole (w/the exception of a few counties), AL has one of the worst public school systems out there.

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    imageFallinAgain:
    I dislike white trash but I also dislike entitled rich kids.  I'm honestly unsure which I'd prefer to surround my kids with.

    I'll take the ones w/out the guns and meth, thanks.

     No, but seriously, H and I have had this discussion a lot re what type of environment we want her in.  I agree w/ what you said above.  But, there has to be a happy medium.  I have friends that teach in public school, and it's knocked up 17 yrs olds on their 3rd kid who can't read.  I went to public school, and it just wasn't like the public schools we have here.  There are public schools out there that I would put my child in, it's just that they aren't in Mobile.  As a whole (w/the exception of a few counties), AL has one of the worst public school systems out there.

    this whole thread is a real eye-opener for me.   We haven't even considered private school for Lila.   We'll be paying for nursery school, but it will cost the same amount as daycare weekly.  

    My mind is blown

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  • imageFallinAgain:

    Yep, I'm not sure whether private schools are better or just better marketed.

    I think this is absolutely true in a lot of areas.  And some private schools suck for sure.

    And I wouldn't say private schools are all filled with spoiled rich kids. Our blue collar guys (edit: at work, this was unclear I guess) send their kids to private too.


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