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  • I am a special education teacher and I work with kids with pretty significant needs. I am so tired of hearing "I could never do what you do" or "you're a saint". You know what? No, I'm not. They are people too and deserve to have the same kind of care and time given to them thst any other child does. It is my opinion that people need to spend more time with people with disabilities (or anyone significantly different from them). Then perhaps it wouldn't be such a mystery.
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  • imagerunnergirl2008:
    I am a special education teacher and I work with kids with pretty significant needs. I am so tired of hearing "I could never do what you do" or "you're a saint". You know what? No, I'm not. They are people too and deserve to have the same kind of care and time given to them thst any other child does. It is my opinion that people need to spend more time with people with disabilities (or anyone significantly different from them). Then perhaps it wouldn't be such a mystery.

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  • This is going to be a bad one....**zips up flame retardant suit**

    There is this facebook C&P going around about how teachers make $1.50 an hour or some small sum like that.  The very probably with this analogy is that it assumes that ONLY teachers work more than 8 hours a day.  If that were the case - IF teachers were the only profession that worked 8 hours a day without overtime, I would feel bad.

    Last week, by noon on Friday, I had pulled 70 hour week. In fact, I often work that many hours which includes the emails and phone calls I take in the middle of the night (I swear to God, my boss never sleeps), the work I take home with me (I usually work until 10, if not later), the work I do on the weekends (more than I should) - my hourly wage? Well, it sucks @ss too. 

    While I understand I am not a public servant, teachers are aware that they are "paid badly" before they become teachers and in that case, do you really have a right to complain? This isn't Russia, you have a choice in your career so.....pick wisely...

  • image+PuppyWuppy+:

    This is going to be a bad one....**zips up flame retardant suit**

    There is this facebook C&P going around about how teachers make $1.50 an hour or some small sum like that.  The very probably with this analogy is that it assumes that ONLY teachers work more than 8 hours a day.  If that were the case - IF teachers were the only profession that worked 8 hours a day without overtime, I would feel bad.

    Last week, by noon on Friday, I had pulled 70 hour week. In fact, I often work that many hours which includes the emails and phone calls I take in the middle of the night (I swear to God, my boss never sleeps), the work I take home with me (I usually work until 10, if not later), the work I do on the weekends (more than I should) - my hourly wage? Well, it sucks @ss too. 

    While I understand I am not a public servant, teachers are aware that they are "paid badly" before they become teachers and in that case, do you really have a right to complain? This isn't Russia, you have a choice in your career so.....pick wisely...

    I actually agree with this.
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  • imagerunnergirl2008:
    image+PuppyWuppy+:

    This is going to be a bad one....**zips up flame retardant suit**

    There is this facebook C&P going around about how teachers make $1.50 an hour or some small sum like that.  The very probably with this analogy is that it assumes that ONLY teachers work more than 8 hours a day.  If that were the case - IF teachers were the only profession that worked 8 hours a day without overtime, I would feel bad.

    Last week, by noon on Friday, I had pulled 70 hour week. In fact, I often work that many hours which includes the emails and phone calls I take in the middle of the night (I swear to God, my boss never sleeps), the work I take home with me (I usually work until 10, if not later), the work I do on the weekends (more than I should) - my hourly wage? Well, it sucks @ss too. 

    While I understand I am not a public servant, teachers are aware that they are "paid badly" before they become teachers and in that case, do you really have a right to complain? This isn't Russia, you have a choice in your career so.....pick wisely...

    I actually agree with this.

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    One of my co-workers in a another dept. is salaried. She complains about not getting OT everytime she doesn't get a lunch, gets called in after hours or if she doesn't get to leave by 4:30pm. I finally told her one day that-that was part of being a salaried employee and shut-up. Her job has always been salaried so I don't complain when you knew that you would not be getting OT from the day you took the offer on the job.

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  • imageiluvchris27:

    imagerunnergirl2008:
    I am a special education teacher and I work with kids with pretty significant needs. I am so tired of hearing "I could never do what you do" or "you're a saint". You know what? No, I'm not. They are people too and deserve to have the same kind of care and time given to them thst any other child does. It is my opinion that people need to spend more time with people with disabilities (or anyone significantly different from them). Then perhaps it wouldn't be such a mystery.

    YesYes

    Is it ok for me to say I think you're a saint and I could never do what you do in regard to working with an entire classroom full of children, period (special needs or not?) I suspect I'd be in tears or have pulled out all of my hair after about 10 minutes. Embarrassed

  • image+PuppyWuppy+:

    This is going to be a bad one....**zips up flame retardant suit**

    There is this facebook C&P going around about how teachers make $1.50 an hour or some small sum like that.  The very probably with this analogy is that it assumes that ONLY teachers work more than 8 hours a day.  If that were the case - IF teachers were the only profession that worked 8 hours a day without overtime, I would feel bad.

    Last week, by noon on Friday, I had pulled 70 hour week. In fact, I often work that many hours which includes the emails and phone calls I take in the middle of the night (I swear to God, my boss never sleeps), the work I take home with me (I usually work until 10, if not later), the work I do on the weekends (more than I should) - my hourly wage? Well, it sucks @ss too. 

    While I understand I am not a public servant, teachers are aware that they are "paid badly" before they become teachers and in that case, do you really have a right to complain? This isn't Russia, you have a choice in your career so.....pick wisely...

    I don't get the berating of teachers. Yes, they are very aware they are "paid badly" but that still doesn't translate into them being unable to complain about wages. Many do it because they love it and it is necessary, that doesn't mean they are required to remain silent about salaries.

    I think it is rather embarrassing that teachers and public servants as a whole are not looked upon more fondly and with respect that the position warrants. I am more than sure you have some complaints about the amount of hours you work versus the amount you are paid, teachers should be given the same courtesy. 

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  • Right now everyone hates Kim Kardashian for having this really over the top wedding and getting paid all of this money for showing it on tv and then filing for a divorce. I feel sorry for her because I think she is the product of a money hungry mother who wants nothing more but to cash in on the success of her daughters no matter the consequences.
  • imageMrs.HarrisIII:
    Right now everyone hates Kim Kardashian for having this really over the top wedding and getting paid all of this money for showing it on tv and then filing for a divorce. I feel sorry for her because I think she is the product of a money hungry mother who wants nothing more but to cash in on the success of her daughters no matter the consequences.

    Can we be best friends forever - I totally agree!!!!!!! 

    And I want Kim K to marry Reggie Bush!!

  • image+PuppyWuppy+:

    Can we be best friends forever - I totally agree!!!!!!! 

    And I want Kim K to marry Reggie Bush!!

    That seems so much more believable than her marrying Kris Humphries.

  • image+PuppyWuppy+:

    imageMrs.HarrisIII:
    Right now everyone hates Kim Kardashian for having this really over the top wedding and getting paid all of this money for showing it on tv and then filing for a divorce. I feel sorry for her because I think she is the product of a money hungry mother who wants nothing more but to cash in on the success of her daughters no matter the consequences.

    Can we be best friends forever - I totally agree!!!!!!! 

    And I want Kim K to marry Reggie Bush!!

    I think Kim is just as money hungry as her mom! I could tell just watching the show that her and Kris Humphries were not going to last. Especially when they were talking about his New York place when she wanted something elaborate and he didn't and she told him she "was not going to lower her standards of living" or when they got engaged and all she could talk about was the size of her ring. Sorry honey but he ring does not make the marriage!  

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  • image+PuppyWuppy+:

    This is going to be a bad one....**zips up flame retardant suit**

    There is this facebook C&P going around about how teachers make $1.50 an hour or some small sum like that.  The very probably with this analogy is that it assumes that ONLY teachers work more than 8 hours a day.  If that were the case - IF teachers were the only profession that worked 8 hours a day without overtime, I would feel bad.

    Last week, by noon on Friday, I had pulled 70 hour week. In fact, I often work that many hours which includes the emails and phone calls I take in the middle of the night (I swear to God, my boss never sleeps), the work I take home with me (I usually work until 10, if not later), the work I do on the weekends (more than I should) - my hourly wage? Well, it sucks @ss too. 

    While I understand I am not a public servant, teachers are aware that they are "paid badly" before they become teachers and in that case, do you really have a right to complain? This isn't Russia, you have a choice in your career so.....pick wisely...

    Oh, there are always ridiculous C&P's like that going around about teaching. It makes some our legitimate complaints seem ridiculous.

    I do think teachers in Oklahoma are underpaid, but not by the amounts people like to claim. 

    And I was very aware of the salary before I made a career change to teaching. I am LOLing at anyone who was shocked by it. Hello...research your earning potential before you commit to a profession!

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    imageMrs.HarrisIII:
    Right now everyone hates Kim Kardashian for having this really over the top wedding and getting paid all of this money for showing it on tv and then filing for a divorce. I feel sorry for her because I think she is the product of a money hungry mother who wants nothing more but to cash in on the success of her daughters no matter the consequences.

    Can we be best friends forever - I totally agree!!!!!!! 

    And I want Kim K to marry Reggie Bush!!

     

    I think Kim is just as money hungry as her mom! I could tell just watching the show that her and Kris Humphries were not going to last. Especially when they were talking about his New York place when she wanted something elaborate and he didn't and she told him she "was not going to lower her standards of living" or when they got engaged and all she could talk about was the size of her ring. Sorry honey but he ring does not make the marriage!  

    But...But... they're job creators! Stick out tongue

  • imageMrs.HarrisIII:
    Right now everyone hates Kim Kardashian for having this really over the top wedding and getting paid all of this money for showing it on tv and then filing for a divorce. I feel sorry for her because I think she is the product of a money hungry mother who wants nothing more but to cash in on the success of her daughters no matter the consequences.
    I feel sorry for her too. I'm not sure I agree that it was Kris Jenner's doing though. I totally believe Kim's story about figuring out it wasn't going to work during wedding planning, but not knowing how to just make everything stop. I think normal people go through the same thing all the time on a much smaller scale. I remember DH and me fighting and wanting to put a hold on the wedding, but being too scared to tell my mom because she'd already put so much money into it. We also felt too ashamed to tell our friends and family so we just went on with it. I can't image going through that on a Kardashian level with the whole world watching. Luckily, our marriage has made it through. Their marriage didn't.
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  • imageBobKat22:
    imageMrs.HarrisIII:
    Right now everyone hates Kim Kardashian for having this really over the top wedding and getting paid all of this money for showing it on tv and then filing for a divorce. I feel sorry for her because I think she is the product of a money hungry mother who wants nothing more but to cash in on the success of her daughters no matter the consequences.
    I feel sorry for her too. I'm not sure I agree that it was Kris Jenner's doing though. I totally believe Kim's story about figuring out it wasn't going to work during wedding planning, but not knowing how to just make everything stop. I think normal people go through the same thing all the time on a much smaller scale. I remember DH and me fighting and wanting to put a hold on the wedding, but being too scared to tell my mom because she'd already put so much money into it. We also felt too ashamed to tell our friends and family so we just went on with it. I can't image going through that on a Kardashian level with the whole world watching. Luckily, our marriage has made it through. Their marriage didn't.

    I agree with this as well.  I called off an engagement just a month before we were set to walk down the aisle.  It was so humiliating. I kept telling people it "didn't feel right" and everyone told me that cold feet was natural.  Hmm..cold feet or...my groom might be gay and I am not in love with him....Finally I had the courage to end it but it was *humiliating,* worse of all I had to endure everyone's opinions on the entire relationship yada yada - I can't imagine what that would be like on a larger scale. It is a pretty awful experience. 

    There are reports that even when they were ironing out their prenup they both acted pretty awful toward one another.  That might be a clue. MAYBE.

  • image+PuppyWuppy+:

    This is going to be a bad one....**zips up flame retardant suit**

    There is this facebook C&P going around about how teachers make $1.50 an hour or some small sum like that.  The very probably with this analogy is that it assumes that ONLY teachers work more than 8 hours a day.  If that were the case - IF teachers were the only profession that worked 8 hours a day without overtime, I would feel bad.

    Last week, by noon on Friday, I had pulled 70 hour week. In fact, I often work that many hours which includes the emails and phone calls I take in the middle of the night (I swear to God, my boss never sleeps), the work I take home with me (I usually work until 10, if not later), the work I do on the weekends (more than I should) - my hourly wage? Well, it sucks @ss too. 

    While I understand I am not a public servant, teachers are aware that they are "paid badly" before they become teachers and in that case, do you really have a right to complain? This isn't Russia, you have a choice in your career so.....pick wisely...

    I agree.  I personally have a hard time hearing the frustration of teachers constantly complaining about salaries when we've heard the same argument for decades.  Poor pay is nothing new.  If you don't like it, choose a different profession that pays better.  Both my parents were teachers and of course I knew they didn't make much, but never once did they ever vote for one of those ridiculous tax hikes to pay teachers more.  One thing they did do, was to tell me not to become a teacher because the pay sucks.  I didn't necessarily pick what I did because of that, but there's no way I would pay $$$$ tuition and earn a 4.0 GPA to make $25k a year. That's just not my personal choice - and I like what PW said about this not being Russia.  True dat!   

  • For me, it's not the hours or pay as a teacher, but the feeling that people don't appreciate the profession and what we do. People think they can be a teacher just because they went to school. It's a whole different ballgame at the front of the room. And it's a completely different generation of children (and parents!).

    I'm okay with less than desirable pay as long as I feel respected in my career. 

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  • I have no idea who Kim Kardashian is. I'm okay with that. ;)
  • I don't think there's a single person out there that doesn't feel under-appreciated in their job. 
  • Hopefully this isn't actually unpopular, but I don't think having 2 children of the same sex is something to be disappointed about.  
    A coworker recently found out she's having a boy--her second boy.  I heard more than 1 person say "oh...well that's okay" and then give her a pitiful look.  WTF?!  Coworker then responds with "yeah, it'll be alright" or "we're excited"....I guess I just feel bad for her that so many people were hoping for a girl, and now they're acting outwardly disappointed toward her.  She's having a healthy baby, how about we celebrate that instead of feeling bad for her?  I don't get it.



    I'm not at all surprised that Kim K. is divorcing and I don't really feel sorry for her.  I think it's sad she (and lots of other people) doesn't value marriage more, but to each their own.  That being said---I'm somewhat addicted to Keeping up with the Kardashians and will continue to watch it, along with Kim & Kourtney's show, and Khloe and Lamar's show.  And I DVR'd and watched the 4 hr wedding special (one reason I'm not at all surprised they're divorcing is because I watched that hot mess and how they behaved with/toward each other), and if they had a 4 hr divorce special....well, I'd probably watch that too Stick out tongue
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  • imagedrillerswife:
    Hopefully this isn't actually unpopular, but I don't think having 2 children of the same sex is something to be disappointed about.  
    A coworker recently found out she's having a boy--her second boy.  I heard more than 1 person say "oh...well that's okay" and then give her a pitiful look.  WTF?!  Coworker then responds with "yeah, it'll be alright" or "we're excited"....I guess I just feel bad for her that so many people were hoping for a girl, and now they're acting outwardly disappointed toward her.  She's having a healthy baby, how about we celebrate that instead of feeling bad for her?  I don't get it.

    I agree!  When I was pg with G, people would ask if I was finding out if we were having a boy or a girl and when I said no, most people said something like "yea, if you already have one of each, it doens't matter I guess" 

    umm...would it matter otherwise?  What, would I decide I didn't want the baby if it wasn't the "other" gender?  It just seemed silly to me.  I have a friend who had a son and her second was a girl and she was a little sad.  She really wanted 2 boys.

    And with that, I think it is dumb when people ask if you are finding out the sex of your baby.  I know they mean are you finding out before birth, but really, we all find out, some just not until he/she is born.

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  • imageWendyToo:
    I don't think there's a single person out there that doesn't feel under-appreciated in their job. 

    ITA!

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  • imageShansBride:
    imagedrillerswife:
    Hopefully this isn't actually unpopular, but I don't think having 2 children of the same sex is something to be disappointed about.  
    A coworker recently found out she's having a boy--her second boy.  I heard more than 1 person say "oh...well that's okay" and then give her a pitiful look.  WTF?!  Coworker then responds with "yeah, it'll be alright" or "we're excited"....I guess I just feel bad for her that so many people were hoping for a girl, and now they're acting outwardly disappointed toward her.  She's having a healthy baby, how about we celebrate that instead of feeling bad for her?  I don't get it.

    I agree!  When I was pg with G, people would ask if I was finding out if we were having a boy or a girl and when I said no, most people said something like "yea, if you already have one of each, it doens't matter I guess" 

    umm...would it matter otherwise?  What, would I decide I didn't want the baby if it wasn't the "other" gender?  It just seemed silly to me.  I have a friend who had a son and her second was a girl and she was a little sad.  She really wanted 2 boys.

    And with that, I think it is dumb when people ask if you are finding out the sex of your baby.  I know they mean are you finding out before birth, but really, we all find out, some just not until he/she is born.

    Yes to everything, but especially the bolded part...even though I did just ask Lizzy this recently, but that's different because it wasn't IRL, right?! LOL.  
    It also annoyed me when people would ask "what is it?" when I was pregnant.  I always said "a baby".  Duh Stick out tongue
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  • imagedrillerswife:
    Yes to everything, but especially the bolded part...even though I did just ask Lizzy this recently, but that's different because it wasn't IRL, right?! LOL.  
    It also annoyed me when people would ask "what is it?" when I was pregnant.  I always said "a baby".  Duh Stick out tongue

     I still ask too.

    And another thing, I don't like to find out if my babies are boys or girls before birth, but I like it when other people do

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  • imageShansBride:
    imagedrillerswife:
    Yes to everything, but especially the bolded part...even though I did just ask Lizzy this recently, but that's different because it wasn't IRL, right?! LOL.  
    It also annoyed me when people would ask "what is it?" when I was pregnant.  I always said "a baby".  Duh Stick out tongue

     I still ask too.

    And another thing, I don't like to find out if my babies are boys or girls before birth, but I like it when other people do

    Bahaha!  You are reading my mind today.  I get so impatient waiting for other people to find out the sex of their babies, but I wasn't impatient while we waited to find out if we had a boy or girl---I actually really liked not knowing and we won't find out the sex before birth next time, either.  
    Some close friends of ours are expecting their 2nd baby in May and they've mentioned they may not find out the sex beforehand because of how fun it was that we didn't know....when they said that my first thought was "NOOOOO!!"  I really hope they find out before the baby is born.
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  • imagedrillerswife:
    imageShansBride:
    imagedrillerswife:
    Hopefully this isn't actually unpopular, but I don't think having 2 children of the same sex is something to be disappointed about.  
    A coworker recently found out she's having a boy--her second boy.  I heard more than 1 person say "oh...well that's okay" and then give her a pitiful look.  WTF?!  Coworker then responds with "yeah, it'll be alright" or "we're excited"....I guess I just feel bad for her that so many people were hoping for a girl, and now they're acting outwardly disappointed toward her.  She's having a healthy baby, how about we celebrate that instead of feeling bad for her?  I don't get it.

    I agree!  When I was pg with G, people would ask if I was finding out if we were having a boy or a girl and when I said no, most people said something like "yea, if you already have one of each, it doens't matter I guess" 

    umm...would it matter otherwise?  What, would I decide I didn't want the baby if it wasn't the "other" gender?  It just seemed silly to me.  I have a friend who had a son and her second was a girl and she was a little sad.  She really wanted 2 boys.

    And with that, I think it is dumb when people ask if you are finding out the sex of your baby.  I know they mean are you finding out before birth, but really, we all find out, some just not until he/she is born.

    Yes to everything, but especially the bolded part...even though I did just ask Lizzy this recently, but that's different because it wasn't IRL, right?! LOL.  
    It also annoyed me when people would ask "what is it?" when I was pregnant.  I always said "a baby".  Duh Stick out tongue

    lol! I don't care when people ask me if we're finding out/if we know the sex. I do get bugged when they ask me what I want...um, a baby? Even if I did have a preference, there's no way I would verbalize that so someone could forever remember that I had wanted a boy, but got a girl, or vice-verse.

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  • imageWendyToo:
    I don't think there's a single person out there that doesn't feel under-appreciated in their job. 

    You are probably right. 

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  • imagedrillerswife:
     
     That being said---I'm somewhat addicted to Keeping up with the Kardashians and will continue to watch it, along with Kim & Kourtney's show, and Khloe and Lamar's show.  And I DVR'd and watched the 4 hr wedding special (one reason I'm not at all surprised they're divorcing is because I watched that hot mess and how they behaved with/toward each other), and if they had a 4 hr divorce special....well, I'd probably watch that too Stick out tongue

    I know me too! I still haven't watched the wedding special yet....even though I know the ending you beat your @ss I am going to watch it anyway!

  • Teachers makin $1.50/hr is such BS.

    I worked in an elementary school two school years ago. I was on the same pay scale as teachers, and held to the same contracted hours. I had to be in the building by 7:50 three days a week, and 7:30 two days a week for duty. I rarely came in earlier than that because I am not a morning person. I could leave at 3:35 each day. I usually left sometime between 4:00 and 4:30, occasionally stayed later. I got a 30 minute lunch. So, even if we stretch it and say my days were from 7:30-4:30 5 days a week, I worked 8.5 hours a day. 180 days a year, with a salary of $34,500. I made approx. $22.54 an hour. Yes, I sometimes brought work home, but I have yet to have a professional job where that didn't happen.

    And I'll go ahead and say that if you're a teacher and you're consistently at your school until 5 or 6 pm (outside of extracuricular practices/games) and working every weekend, you aren't being very efficient or making good use of your time.

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