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Female friend too close for comfort?

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Re: Female friend too close for comfort?

  • imagecate1st:

    Emily didnt last when she didnt want Ross and Rachel hanging out together. and who ended up together in the end?? R&R.

    I know it may sound dumb, but in my heart I really believe my boyfriend is a good man (although sometimes misguided, but hey i obviously have issues too) and I'm simply not prepared to walk away from my otherwise great life with him and our two dogs over something that shouldnt be such a big deal. 

     I already started to let the BS go with her personally (not talking obviously helps) but if we start to be "friends" again, I will surely heed the advice of the forum and continue to let whatever nonsense she says go. Although quite frankly if we never spoke again, I wouldnt be crushed.

     

     

    What you seem to be saying here is that you feel, deep down, that if you force the issue with your boyfriend, he's going to pick her over you.  That's not a healthy relationship, not at all.  He may be a good man, but the world is full of good men.  Pick one you don't secretly fear is in love with someone else, and you'll be much happier.

    If you are hell-bent on staying with him, though, then you need to tell him that someone he used to like, that he used to lie to you about, and who makes you uncomfortable has no place in his life if he wants to be with you.  If he says no, or that he loves you so this shouldn't matter?  Then you know where you stand.

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  • imagewingedbride:
    imagecate1st:

    I really appreciate your helpful and encouraging words.  :|

     

    No, its not a healthy quality, and if you have time we can go over exactly why I'm co-dependent and not trusting and all sorts uncomfortable stuff about my life that has been way harder than most people's lives.  But that will probably make you feel like crap and make this a pity party and I'm really not about that.  I'm really just trying to recover and be semi normal.  How I tried to go about doing that was opening myself up to a female dominated forum and asked advice and thoughts about something I am going through in my life, looking for some understanding and guidance. I was met with some real snotty doozies and some other more warm and welcoming responses.

     

    Guess where your responses fell.

    Number one, the fact that you think you have been through more than most people is laughable and shows your young age. You have no idea what other people's lives are like. To assume yours is the worst is just beyond words to me.

    And no, none of us would pity you. 

    But her comments were not snotty. They may not have been what you wanted to hear. But most of us sitting here are seeing that your behavior and your emotions about this situation are not healthy and are going to lead the the end of your relationship. You really need to think about that to go forward as a healthy individual.

    I have been down the codependent road. It's not a good place.

     

    number one, no not everyone has gone through what ive been through. yes its abnormal. i know that for a fact.  is it possible some people have gone through way more than me? abso-***-lutely. but that doesnt make my hurt or experience any less. its a pretty heartless thing to say that no one would at the very least feel empathetic. given the fact you dont know what has made me so "co-dependent" as you say, it would be nice if you wouldnt be so judgmental as to think that I am this way just because. 

     

    I came here for venting and understanding and support. I thought thats what this forum was for.  Instead I was mostly met with cliquey judgmental and yes SNOTTY responses (this does not include the nice people, i like you, i dont mean you) 

    I am APPALLED that supposedly for someone who has been co-dependent in the past you are not understanding or at all helpful. You may not have intended to but you (and the other "platinum posters" have come off as cliquey and mean. I am never coming to this website again and I'm sure you wont miss me as much as I will not miss you. good luck to you all in life and I hope you one day become happier people.

  • You need to loosen up. Maybe a threesome is the trick.
  • jesus what a bunch of truly mean spirited people.
  • None of this is mean.  There is nothing "mean" about telling you when things you're saying don't make sense, or letting you know when your relationship is on shaky ground and you don't want to see it.
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  • I'm codependent on the devil
  • Nobody is codependent just for funsies. Everyone has a reason to be codependent.  It's still very unhealthy and is something you should work to correct rather than defend. 
  • imagecate1st:

    I am never coming to this website again!

    PLEASE tell me there was a foot-stomp added in here... Balled up fists, angry stomp, and a shrill scream would compliment this tantrum so nicely.  

  • I'm a New Yorker! Fear's my life.
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  • Thank you, parents of millennials, for delivering an entire generation of this type of validation-seeking special snowflakes into our midst.

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    "As of page 2 this might be the most boring argument ever. It's making me long for Rape Day." - Mouse
  • I hope cate1st sends cupcakes to all of our husbands telling them she feels sorry for them.

     

    ETA:  Goddamnit, I just realized I'm a platinum poster.  Foff.

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    "That chick wins at Penises, for sure." -- Fenton
  • This OP couldn't possibly be older than 18. What a brat.
    Oh, FFS.
  • imageL_Woods:
    I'm a New Yorker! Fear's my life.

    AZT break!

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    My friend Margarita says some girls just have a 24 karat pvssy. Men are just mesmerized by them. I think cupcake giver girl must be one of those girls.
  • image_Fenton:

    Thank you, parents of millennials, for delivering an entire generation of this type of validation-seeking special snowflakes into our midst.

    http://www.hulu.com/watch/319318/saturday-night-live-you-can-do-anything

    "I went to a school with no grades!"

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    "That chick wins at Penises, for sure." -- Fenton
  • imageCaliopeSpidrman:
    image_Fenton:

    Thank you, parents of millennials, for delivering an entire generation of this type of validation-seeking special snowflakes into our midst.

    http://www.hulu.com/watch/319318/saturday-night-live-you-can-do-anything

    "I went to a school with no grades!"

    I've been wondering now that I'm out of my parents culty bubble, does Evergreen have a good reputation? I mean, it is a University, not a state school.  

    ETA: the only person I knew who went there as far as the google and the Facebook tell me is a performance artist and works for an indie publisher.  

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    "The meek shall inherit the earth" isn't about children. It's about deer. We're all going to get messed the fuckup by a bunch of cloned super-deer.- samfish2bcrab

    Sometimes I wonder if scientists have never seen a sci-fi movie before. "Oh yes, let's create a super species of deer. NOTHING COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG." I wonder if State Farm offers a Zombie Deer Attack policy. -CaliopeSpidrman
  • Doesn't your bf go on camping trips and drink beer and watch football? Without a gf around? I think a guy having a "bf" or a girl saying "ohhhh...he's my best friend!!!!" is not right. I think there is a way of ahndling this. Break up. Find a guy who does not need a female friend he HAS to COUNSEL for 3 HOURS at a party. This is not sarcasm, I really think a guy with a close relationship with another woman is not ready for a wife. Or gf. Unless it's herrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
  • imagefl4lovers:
    Doesn't your bf go on camping trips and drink beer and watch football? Without a gf around? I think a guy having a "bf" or a girl saying "ohhhh...he's my best friend!!!!" is not right. I think there is a way of ahndling this. Break up. Find a guy who does not need a female friend he HAS to COUNSEL for 3 HOURS at a party. This is not sarcasm, I really think a guy with a close relationship with another woman is not ready for a wife. Or gf. Unless it's herrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

    Are you for real?  

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    "That chick wins at Penises, for sure." -- Fenton
  • Cali, what do you mean? Of course she is for real. Everyone knows boys and girls can't be friends. One of them always wants to synchronize their googles.
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  • I keep forgetting that my vagina means I get paid 25 cents less and disqualifies me from camping and beer drinking.  On the upside, at least I know when I give someone a cupcake they know it's because I want their thing in my thing.  *points at all my coworkers*
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    "That chick wins at Penises, for sure." -- Fenton
  • Boys and girls can be friends. But this guy sounds a little too close to his "best gf". Just my opinion. I have guy friends, and my DH has female friends. None of his female friends bake cupcakes for him. He doesn't counsel them for 3 hours at a party. The way the OP describes her SO relationship sounds like he spends too much time on her. That's why I used the "counseled for 3 hours at a party" example.

    The other point I made was that she shoudl break up with him. She obviously doesn't feel secure with this guy, so why not move on to someone who is more of a guys' guy? For her sake, not saying every married person can't have friends of the opp sex.

    I also think the sarcasm and mean-spirited tone some of you take is a bit much. People come on here looking for solid advice, and some of you really don't take others' feelings into consideration. Like, at all.

  • I am sorry you got so many unkind responses. I think most of your concerns are valid and your outlook about your boyfriend's improving understanding is a plus. Do not be discouraged. Such things are worth praying about.
  • Neither are right.. in any 'respect'.

    The only thing you should even be remotely offended by is the 'behind the back talking' with your BF. But it seems all of these are so far done and PAST issues... m i right?

    Let these things go, i am very sure that if she was someone to worry about you would notice right away- these are just jealous twinges you are having, i think we all as women before marriage and even during marriage get those at times- i kno i do! and its not a healthy way to continue a relationship, Pray my dear is all i can say to cure your jealousy and to love your BF unconditionally. FORGET the other chick ;P and have mutual respect.  

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  • I can not believe how nasty some of these responses are. Ms Cate has a legitimate concern, even if she's unable to articulate her reasons for her discomfort as well as some of you would like. You, anonymous readers don't know any back story whatsoever and yet you slam her. I think she handled this better than most women by approaching the girl and being direct about her feelings. Then the girl turns to the boyfriend to vent, not OK. 

    My husband and I had a mutual male friend who fancied me and he would often but very subtlety try to drive a wedge between us. It took me a while to catch on because I would always start it by venting about a fight or whatever not thinking it was inappropriate then he would jump in with his own input always siding with me. Once I realized what our friend was doing I talked to my husband about it. My husband has never been jealous or distrustful of me, it actually made me more uncomfortable and a little guilty, but he agreed that it was way inappropriate and he confronted our friend. Its all resolved now, but it was definitely a learning lesson for all of us. 

    Don't throw your boundaries out the window , especially when there are so many infidelities going on recently. If you have a gut feeling about this girl undermining you, don't ignore it. Fight for your relationship if want to keep it up. 

  • Why are people still answering this? And why schwendy, are you so protective of the OP?
  • imagefl4lovers:

    Boys and girls can be friends. But this guy sounds a little too close to his "best gf". Just my opinion. I have guy friends, and my DH has female friends. None of his female friends bake cupcakes for him. He doesn't counsel them for 3 hours at a party. The way the OP describes her SO relationship sounds like he spends too much time on her. That's why I used the "counseled for 3 hours at a party" example.

    The other point I made was that she shoudl break up with him. She obviously doesn't feel secure with this guy, so why not move on to someone who is more of a guys' guy? For her sake, not saying every married person can't have friends of the opp sex.

    I also think the sarcasm and mean-spirited tone some of you take is a bit much. People come on here looking for solid advice, and some of you really don't take others' feelings into consideration. Like, at all.

    Apparently I didn't read this the first time around.  But I got to this response and for some reason thought it was Fenton.  Guess I didn't get past the F.

    Anyway, I thought it was odd but I got to the last paragraph and my jaw dropped.  Oh my god, what happened to her.  I'm relieved Fenton isn't seriously ill here.


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  • to answer your first question, its on thenest's home page. As for your second question, I really have no reason to defend her. For all I know she could be a horrible person, but I can't judge her based on one post and neither should anyone else. I don't see why readers can't just answer her dilemma respectfully. Saying "Are you sure that you aren't reading too much into the cupcake thing?" is a polite and respectful question. Saying "You're crazy" or "You sound like a jealous controlling ***" is not respectful or helpful
  • You're probably not going to want to hear this but: You're over reacting. The only thing that would bother me is the last two things you said. The date thing, because a Valentine's Date would most likely be very intimate and I would feel put on the spot. And the knowing him better thing would bother me, but she's probably just trying to feel important by making a reference to how much she knows him. Bringing cupcakes isn't a big deal, and it doesn't seem to be a romantic motive for what she does, you just don't seem to do well with him having any female contact. 

    She isn't crossing the line and I wouldn't put so much concern into her behavior, if she was interested in your bf I don't think she'd be marrying some other guy 

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  • Obviously the OP is long gone, as would I be if I'd received such useless and immature responses, as some of these here are. 

    Each of us is different, some of us can handle having a boyfriend with female friends, and some of us can't.  So what?  I don't think that entitles any of us to go about judging others for feeling a particular way.  There's absolutely nothing wrong with how the OP feels towards this person.  It sounds as though this friend's behaviour has continued for an extended period of time, with little positive interaction between the friend and the OP.  I think being involved in that kind of a "friendship" would eventually grate on anyone.  

     My 2 cents is that the boyfriend enjoys the attention from this "friend", especially if she's someone he used to have a crush on, which is why he's allowed her co-dependent behaviour to continue for so long.  I also think that he's her "best friend" because, based upon her behaviour (which, over a period of time, would probably start to irk ANY girlfriend), she's a bit catty and jealous herself, and doesn't play well with other women.

     I wonder how she'd react if you started a "friendship" with her boyfriend.  Perhaps you can take him over some fresh baked goods and find out ;)

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