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I'm pregnant---not good

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  • imageRockABye:

    1. I never said she had to be happy about it. I understand it's a difficult situation. Hence why I recommended she talk to someone about all the feelings she's dealing with.

    No, you said that she should be grateful and feel lucky. Please school me on the differences between grateful, lucky, and happy.

    2. I never said that her being pregnant was the reason others are missing out on babies. Umm.. no. Her being pregnant has absolutely no bearing on my fertility or lack there of. This woman having a baby doesn't mean that one was plucked from someone else.

    If you are so aware that her pregnancy has no bearing on your fertility issues, then why on earth do you seem to take her post so personally? Are you really just that unable to look at a situation from someone else's perspective?

    3. "giant fcuking flaming asssholes".. really? lol... Oh my!  Notice I didn't call her (or any of you) any lovely names. There's no need to get your panties in a bunch, hun! Smile hugs and smooches!

    I think you should take your own advice here, hon.

     

    I agree with everything that muddled said. You should listen to her. -ESDReturns
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    1. I never said she had to be happy about it. I understand it's a difficult situation.

    So what was the 'suck it up' horseshit back there?

    Really? I am not happy about paying bills. I am not happy when I have to have my blood drawn. I am not happy when I have a stupid meeting to go to, but I "suck it up"... Same thing in this situation. Suck it up =/= be happy. Didn't realize it was that confusing. Sorry.

    The OP never said she was having an abortion so what decision did she make that I am not reading carefully? She said that she couldn't afford to be fixed or her DH to be fixed and was taking the pill but ended up pregnant anyway.

    The OP never said she was having an abortion. So, what decision did she make?

    Yes You do not have to be happy but it is your responsibility to decide what you are going to do, just like it is your responsibility to go to work even when you don't like to. Hence the "suck it up".  You have already said that this is not what you want. How are you going to treat the child once he/she is here if you do not want it already? I think you have some major decisions to make.   

    Um, she made her decision and I don't think you're reading very carefully.

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  • imageRockABye:
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    imageRockABye:

    1. I never said she had to be happy about it. I understand it's a difficult situation.

    So what was the 'suck it up' horseshit back there?

    Really? I am not happy about paying bills. I am not happy when I have to have my blood drawn. I am not happy when I have a stupid meeting to go to, but I "suck it up"... Same thing in this situation. Suck it up =/= be happy. Didn't realize it was that confusing. Sorry.

    Yes, because paying bills and going to a meeting is the same thing as carrying, giving birth, and then raising a child for 18 years. Holy shiit, do you really not see how you're wrong here?  

    Responsibility = Responsibility.  Varying degrees of it, but regardless, it's all under the umbrella of responsibility. She can keep the baby, abort the baby, give it up for adoption,whatever. It's still her responsibility to suck it up and deal with the situation at hand.

    Seriously, the way y'all are freaking out over my comments is almost comical. There's no reason to get in a tizzy over it. It's a public message board. She asked for advice and opinions and I gave her mine, which really wasn't that awful compared to some other things that were said to her. You can agree or you can disagree and call me names. Whatever. I really, truly don't care.

    I like how you can wave your hands in the air and pretend you said something completely different than what you said. I'll have to try that in real life and see if works. 

  • imageRockABye:

    Responsibility = Responsibility.  Varying degrees of it, but regardless, it's all under the umbrella of responsibility. She can keep the baby, abort the baby, give it up for adoption,whatever. It's still her responsibility to suck it up and deal with the situation at hand.


    Oh, right, by "suck it up", you were really saying "you have to make a choice, and I dont care what that choice is". SURE. As though she was just going to sit around in denial waiting for the situation to just disappear? Please. 

    And are you seriously trying to argue that paying a cell phone bill is even in the same realm of responsibility as being pregnant? All under the same umbrella? 

  • imageRockABye:

    Since you DDed this exact same question on GP (never cool to DD...), I'll give you the same advice here that I did there..

    Here's my advice - Suck it up and be grateful that you are able to conceive when there are so many women, myself included, who have been unsuccessful in years of trying to get pregnant. Yeah, sure it's a shock and a surprise for you, but be grateful. Things happen and sometimes the pill doesn't work. You're an adult. And you've been married for 10+ years so obviously you must know it all so you should be able to handle the situation. And please.... love that precious baby. And if you don't want it... then I'll adopt it :)  Congrats on being super fertile.... I'd give my left arm to have some of that fertility....

    And I'll add to that... please, if you do not want more children in the future look into ways to sterilize yourself or get your husband a vasectomy... AND, I'd suggest maybe looking into some temporary counseling just to help you deal with the shock and all the feelings your going through right now. Might be helpful..

    I really do wish you the best of luck in the future.

    Wow, you are one helluvab!tch

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    1. I never said she had to be happy about it. I understand it's a difficult situation.

    So what was the 'suck it up' horseshit back there?

    Really? I am not happy about paying bills. I am not happy when I have to have my blood drawn. I am not happy when I have a stupid meeting to go to, but I "suck it up"... Same thing in this situation. Suck it up =/= be happy. Didn't realize it was that confusing. Sorry.

    Yes, because paying bills and going to a meeting is the same thing as carrying, giving birth, and then raising a child for 18 years. Holy shiit, do you really not see how you're wrong here?  

    Responsibility = Responsibility.  Varying degrees of it, but regardless, it's all under the umbrella of responsibility. She can keep the baby, abort the baby, give it up for adoption,whatever. It's still her responsibility to suck it up and deal with the situation at hand.

    Seriously, the way y'all are freaking out over my comments is almost comical. There's no reason to get in a tizzy over it. It's a public message board. She asked for advice and opinions and I gave her mine, which really wasn't that awful compared to some other things that were said to her. You can agree or you can disagree and call me names. Whatever. I really, truly don't care.

    I like how you can wave your hands in the air and pretend you said something completely different than what you said. I'll have to try that in real life and see if works. 

    Right? 

    And to whoever told her to cover her bases next time ... CAN YOU READ. She has been on BC for 4 years. She wasn't playing baby roulette and acting all shocked when she wound up KU.  

  • imageRockABye:

    2. I never said that her being pregnant was the reason others are missing out on babies. Umm.. no. Her being pregnant has absolutely no bearing on my fertility or lack there of. This woman having a baby doesn't mean that one was plucked from someone else.

    I have to say you did make it sound like the OP went into your bedroom dressed like the Grinch and stole your wozell-whatell from you.

    *And now I have "You're a mean one Mr.Grinch" stuck in my head*


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    imageRockABye:

    1. I never said she had to be happy about it. I understand it's a difficult situation.

    So what was the 'suck it up' horseshit back there?

    Really? I am not happy about paying bills. I am not happy when I have to have my blood drawn. I am not happy when I have a stupid meeting to go to, but I "suck it up"... Same thing in this situation. Suck it up =/= be happy. Didn't realize it was that confusing. Sorry.

    Yes, because paying bills and going to a meeting is the same thing as carrying, giving birth, and then raising a child for 18 years. Holy shiit, do you really not see how you're wrong here?  

    Responsibility = Responsibility.  Varying degrees of it, but regardless, it's all under the umbrella of responsibility. She can keep the baby, abort the baby, give it up for adoption,whatever. It's still her responsibility to suck it up and deal with the situation at hand.

    Seriously, the way y'all are freaking out over my comments is almost comical. There's no reason to get in a tizzy over it. It's a public message board. She asked for advice and opinions and I gave her mine, which really wasn't that awful compared to some other things that were said to her. You can agree or you can disagree and call me names. Whatever. I really, truly don't care.

     I am new here, just started lurking today, and I have to say you sound really really bitter. I am  sorry that you are having IF problems but coming on an internet board and lashing out at people for fun isn't going to help it. She never said she wasn't going to suck it up, she just was stating what her current situation is. Just like I am sure you are somewhere posting about your IF. Maybe you should just suck it up and not post anywhere about the trials that come along with that, bitter Betty!

  • imagezina0323:

     I am new here, just started lurking today, and I have to say you sound really really bitter. I am  sorry that you are having IF problems but coming on an internet board and lashing out at people for fun isn't going to help it. She never said she wasn't going to suck it up, she just was stating what her current situation is. Just like I am sure you are somewhere posting about your IF. Maybe you should just suck it up and not post anywhere about the trials that come along with that, bitter Betty!

    Of course she's bitter.  She's being a raging biitch - pick on her for that - but calling her 'bitter Betty' is pretty cvnty, too.

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  • I don't normally post support about these things but I feel the need to tell you that no matter what you decide to do, your decision is the right thing to do. Don't let anyone tell you different. What you said about how you only want two kids and you have them is perfectly understandable.

    The world is full of options. No matter what you decide (abortion, adoption, or keeping the child) there are many options on how to do it as well. The world is more open now. I, for one, support any of those three options if you decide to do them. Don't let the crazies get to you, I hope to hear an update for you. I really feel for you. My T&P go out to you.


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  • imageInterrobang:
    imagemeganjane86:
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    imageRockABye:

    1. I never said she had to be happy about it. I understand it's a difficult situation.

    So what was the 'suck it up' horseshit back there?

    Really? I am not happy about paying bills. I am not happy when I have to have my blood drawn. I am not happy when I have a stupid meeting to go to, but I "suck it up"... Same thing in this situation. Suck it up =/= be happy. Didn't realize it was that confusing. Sorry.

    Yes, because paying bills and going to a meeting is the same thing as carrying, giving birth, and then raising a child for 18 years. Holy shiit, do you really not see how you're wrong here?  

    Responsibility = Responsibility.  Varying degrees of it, but regardless, it's all under the umbrella of responsibility. She can keep the baby, abort the baby, give it up for adoption,whatever. It's still her responsibility to suck it up and deal with the situation at hand.

    I like how you can wave your hands in the air and pretend you said something completely different than what you said. I'll have to try that in real life and see if works. 

    Right? 

    And to whoever told her to cover her bases next time ... CAN YOU READ. She has been on BC for 4 years. She wasn't playing baby roulette and acting all shocked when she wound up KU.  

    This is what I don't understand. She was told on the GP board to close her legs? Like she's out screwing anyone she comes in contact with? She's married, for God's sake, and taking BC while waiting to afford a permanent procedure.

    And paying bills =/= the responsibility of raising a child. Not even close. That argument is stupid.

    OP, this situation sucks. I was in the exact same position in January - had been on BC for a year, got pregnant in late October/early November. We aren't in a financial position to raise another one, our DD is 14 months right now. In our case, H & I were ready to make our finances work and happily raise another, however, I had a m/c at the end of January, right as we'd started to come out of the shock and started planning and being excited for it. Not quite the exact same thing that is happening in your life, other than the getting pregnant on BC, but if someone told me I had better suck it up and be grateful about it, or close my legs like I was some streetwalking wh0re simply because they were IF, if I was in shock and just needing a little support, I think I'd be punching people through my computer screen. Sorry you are having fertility issues, but just because you have issues doesn't mean that everyone else in the world who gets pregnant has to be falling over excited about it.

    Oh, FFS.
  • imagezina0323:
    imageRockABye:
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    imageRockABye:

    1. I never said she had to be happy about it. I understand it's a difficult situation.

    So what was the 'suck it up' horseshit back there?

    Really? I am not happy about paying bills. I am not happy when I have to have my blood drawn. I am not happy when I have a stupid meeting to go to, but I "suck it up"... Same thing in this situation. Suck it up =/= be happy. Didn't realize it was that confusing. Sorry.

    Yes, because paying bills and going to a meeting is the same thing as carrying, giving birth, and then raising a child for 18 years. Holy shiit, do you really not see how you're wrong here?  

    Responsibility = Responsibility.  Varying degrees of it, but regardless, it's all under the umbrella of responsibility. She can keep the baby, abort the baby, give it up for adoption,whatever. It's still her responsibility to suck it up and deal with the situation at hand.

    Seriously, the way y'all are freaking out over my comments is almost comical. There's no reason to get in a tizzy over it. It's a public message board. She asked for advice and opinions and I gave her mine, which really wasn't that awful compared to some other things that were said to her. You can agree or you can disagree and call me names. Whatever. I really, truly don't care.

     I am new here, just started lurking today, and I have to say you sound really really bitter. I am  sorry that you are having IF problems but coming on an internet board and lashing out at people for fun isn't going to help it. She never said she wasn't going to suck it up, she just was stating what her current situation is. Just like I am sure you are somewhere posting about your IF. Maybe you should just suck it up and not post anywhere about the trials that come along with that, bitter Betty!

    I'm actually not very bitter at all. A lot of IF chicks hate the "it's in God's hands" or "it'll happen when it happens" or "everything happens for a reason" but I actually believe those and am fine with it. Sure, I'd love a baby and am doing what I can to achieve that, but I'm ok with what is right now. I'm actually quite un-bitter about it for the most part. Everyone has days where they feel down (because of IF or other things) but that doesn't make them bitter... And for the record, I didn't "lash out at her in fun". This is just a vicious cycle that could go on and on and on. It's basically two sides of an argument and we'll never agree.. and that's totally fine. As I said previously, I wish the OP nothing but the best of luck in whatever decision she makes. Take that as you will. If wishing her the best of luck makes me all those nasty, hateful things I was called, then so be it.

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  • imagewinstonc22:
    imagezina0323:

     I am new here, just started lurking today, and I have to say you sound really really bitter. I am  sorry that you are having IF problems but coming on an internet board and lashing out at people for fun isn't going to help it. She never said she wasn't going to suck it up, she just was stating what her current situation is. Just like I am sure you are somewhere posting about your IF. Maybe you should just suck it up and not post anywhere about the trials that come along with that, bitter Betty!

    Of course she's bitter.  She's being a raging biitch - pick on her for that - but calling her 'bitter Betty' is pretty cvnty, too.

    and calling someone a ? haha I get what you are saying but I am sorry, that is how I see it and I am calling a spade a spade.

     

  • imagezina0323:
    imagewinstonc22:
    imagezina0323:

     I am new here, just started lurking today, and I have to say you sound really really bitter. I am  sorry that you are having IF problems but coming on an internet board and lashing out at people for fun isn't going to help it. She never said she wasn't going to suck it up, she just was stating what her current situation is. Just like I am sure you are somewhere posting about your IF. Maybe you should just suck it up and not post anywhere about the trials that come along with that, bitter Betty!

    Of course she's bitter.  She's being a raging biitch - pick on her for that - but calling her 'bitter Betty' is pretty cvnty, too.

    and calling someone a ? haha I get what you are saying but I am sorry, that is how I see it and I am calling a spade a spade.

     

    You're attacking someone for their feelings about a situation that you clearly have no understanding of, and that makes you no better than the people attacking the OP for having an unplanned pregnancy.  Why don't you just go find a kid whose mom just died and poke fun at him for being sad?

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  • imageRockABye:
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    1. I never said she had to be happy about it. I understand it's a difficult situation.

    So what was the 'suck it up' horseshit back there?

    Really? I am not happy about paying bills. I am not happy when I have to have my blood drawn. I am not happy when I have a stupid meeting to go to, but I "suck it up"... Same thing in this situation. Suck it up =/= be happy. Didn't realize it was that confusing. Sorry.

    Yes, because paying bills and going to a meeting is the same thing as carrying, giving birth, and then raising a child for 18 years. Holy shiit, do you really not see how you're wrong here?  

    Responsibility = Responsibility.  Varying degrees of it, but regardless, it's all under the umbrella of responsibility. She can keep the baby, abort the baby, give it up for adoption,whatever. It's still her responsibility to suck it up and deal with the situation at hand.

    Seriously, the way y'all are freaking out over my comments is almost comical. There's no reason to get in a tizzy over it. It's a public message board. She asked for advice and opinions and I gave her mine, which really wasn't that awful compared to some other things that were said to her. You can agree or you can disagree and call me names. Whatever. I really, truly don't care.

     I am new here, just started lurking today, and I have to say you sound really really bitter. I am  sorry that you are having IF problems but coming on an internet board and lashing out at people for fun isn't going to help it. She never said she wasn't going to suck it up, she just was stating what her current situation is. Just like I am sure you are somewhere posting about your IF. Maybe you should just suck it up and not post anywhere about the trials that come along with that, bitter Betty!

    I'm actually not very bitter at all. A lot of IF chicks hate the "it's in God's hands" or "it'll happen when it happens" or "everything happens for a reason" but I actually believe those and am fine with it. Sure, I'd love a baby and am doing what I can to achieve that, but I'm ok with what is right now. I'm actually quite un-bitter about it for the most part. Everyone has days where they feel down (because of IF or other things) but that doesn't make them bitter... And for the record, I didn't "lash out at her in fun". This is just a vicious cycle that could go on and on and on. It's basically two sides of an argument and we'll never agree.. and that's totally fine. As I said previously, I wish the OP nothing but the best of luck in whatever decision she makes. Take that as you will. If wishing her the best of luck makes me all those nasty, hateful things I was called, then so be it.

     You are trying to back track so badly right now!! It's funny to watch. You did not come on here so nicely.

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     I am new here, just started lurking today, and I have to say you sound really really bitter. I am  sorry that you are having IF problems but coming on an internet board and lashing out at people for fun isn't going to help it. She never said she wasn't going to suck it up, she just was stating what her current situation is. Just like I am sure you are somewhere posting about your IF. Maybe you should just suck it up and not post anywhere about the trials that come along with that, bitter Betty!

    Of course she's bitter.  She's being a raging biitch - pick on her for that - but calling her 'bitter Betty' is pretty cvnty, too.

    and calling someone a ? haha I get what you are saying but I am sorry, that is how I see it and I am calling a spade a spade.

     

    You're attacking someone for their feelings about a situation that you clearly have no understanding of, and that makes you no better than the people attacking the OP for having an unplanned pregnancy.  Why don't you just go find a kid whose mom just died and poke fun at him for being sad?

     my dad just died, does that count? I am not making fun of her for having IF, no where did I make fun of her for that. I was saying she shouldn't be using that to attack the OP. Just like I wouldn't yell at someone for fighting with their dad because I don't have one. People have different situations and should be able to feel how they feel. Trust me, it took my sister 11 years to have my niece and I have 15 adopted cousins, NEVER would I make fun of someone for IF, but I also don't think it's ok to be mean just because you are. Am I making sense?

  • I really can't believe someone compared having a baby to going to a meeting.
  • imagezina0323:

     my dad just died, does that count? I am not making fun of her for having IF, no where did I make fun of her for that. I was saying she shouldn't be using that to attack the OP. Just like I wouldn't yell at someone for fighting with their dad because I don't have one. People have different situations and should be able to feel how they feel. Trust me, it took my sister 11 years to have my niece and I have 15 adopted cousins, NEVER would I make fun of someone for IF, but I also don't think it's ok to be mean just because you are. Am I making sense?

    No, it doesn't count.  My mom died, and in no way did that compare to the pain of infertility and miscarriage.  I wouldn't have believed it until it was actually my life, but there you have it.  Your parents are supposed to die before you and you're supposed to be able to have children.  Calling her bitter Betty was making fun of her.  A great rule of thumb is to never pick on someone for hurting.  Call them out for being a crappy person, like how you're behaving in this thread, but not for being sad or bitter.  It's low. 

    And your sister struggling with IF isn't the same as you going through it.  Not even a tiny little bit, no matter ow many adopted cousins you have.

    So these idiots are coming in here and ripping into someone who's having a hard time when they don't have a clue what it feels like to be in her shoes.  What do you do?  Pick on one of them for having a hard time (bitter references) when you have no idea what it's like to be in her shoes.

    Does that make sense?

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  • imageRockABye:

    As I said previously, I wish the OP nothing but the best of luck in whatever decision she makes. Take that as you will. If wishing her the best of luck makes me all those nasty, hateful things I was called, then so be it.

    You have to know how sarcastic that sounded in your OP. It did not sound genuine or heartfelt. It sounded like the you added it on just so you could be a crazy, bitter, rageaholic without getting flamed. If you are going to such d!ck to the OP at least own up to it and don't back track. I hope you keep your best luck to yourself because the OP doesn't need it.


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     my dad just died, does that count? I am not making fun of her for having IF, no where did I make fun of her for that. I was saying she shouldn't be using that to attack the OP. Just like I wouldn't yell at someone for fighting with their dad because I don't have one. People have different situations and should be able to feel how they feel. Trust me, it took my sister 11 years to have my niece and I have 15 adopted cousins, NEVER would I make fun of someone for IF, but I also don't think it's ok to be mean just because you are. Am I making sense?

    No, it doesn't count.  My mom died, and in no way did that compare to the pain of infertility and miscarriage.  I wouldn't have believed it until it was actually my life, but there you have it.  Your parents are supposed to die before you and you're supposed to be able to have children.  Calling her bitter Betty was making fun of her.  A great rule of thumb is to never pick on someone for hurting.  Call them out for being a crappy person, like you're doing in this thread, but not for being sad or bitter.  It's low. 

    And your sister struggling with IF isn't the same as you going through it.  Not even a tiny little bit, no matter ow many adopted cousins you have.

    So these idiots are coming in here and ripping into someone who's having a hard time when they don't have a clue what it feels like to be in her shoes.  What do you do?  Pick on one of them for having a hard time (bitter references) when you have no idea what it's like to be in her shoes.

    Does that make sense?

     No it doesn't, at all. OMG you are just as bad!! Calling her crappy or bitter are the same thing. You are twisting my words to just cause a fight. Get over it. She was being crappy, sh*tty, whatever you want to call it! You even said yourself she was bitter!! LOL! Never did I say I knew what they were going through, i said i would never make fun of someone for having IF. Where did I say I knew what she was going through? Where? Quote it. I said I would never make fun of someone for it. Jeez!  Saying she is bitter is not making fun of her IF issues. If I said "ha ha you can't have kids" Then that would be making fun of her. I was saying she was using her IF to be mean to someone and that is not ok. I don't care if I have never been though it, it doesn't mean it gives her a right to be mean. End of story.

     oh and the dad thing was because you said find a kid who lost their parent. Just sayin...

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    1. I never said she had to be happy about it. I understand it's a difficult situation.

    So what was the 'suck it up' horseshit back there?

    Really? I am not happy about paying bills. I am not happy when I have to have my blood drawn. I am not happy when I have a stupid meeting to go to, but I "suck it up"... Same thing in this situation. Suck it up =/= be happy. Didn't realize it was that confusing. Sorry.

    Yes, because paying bills and going to a meeting is the same thing as carrying, giving birth, and then raising a child for 18 years. Holy shiit, do you really not see how you're wrong here?  

    Responsibility = Responsibility.  Varying degrees of it, but regardless, it's all under the umbrella of responsibility. She can keep the baby, abort the baby, give it up for adoption,whatever. It's still her responsibility to suck it up and deal with the situation at hand.

    Seriously, the way y'all are freaking out over my comments is almost comical. There's no reason to get in a tizzy over it. It's a public message board. She asked for advice and opinions and I gave her mine, which really wasn't that awful compared to some other things that were said to her. You can agree or you can disagree and call me names. Whatever. I really, truly don't care.

     I am new here, just started lurking today, and I have to say you sound really really bitter. I am  sorry that you are having IF problems but coming on an internet board and lashing out at people for fun isn't going to help it. She never said she wasn't going to suck it up, she just was stating what her current situation is. Just like I am sure you are somewhere posting about your IF. Maybe you should just suck it up and not post anywhere about the trials that come along with that, bitter Betty!

    I'm actually not very bitter at all. A lot of IF chicks hate the "it's in God's hands" or "it'll happen when it happens" or "everything happens for a reason" but I actually believe those and am fine with it. Sure, I'd love a baby and am doing what I can to achieve that, but I'm ok with what is right now. I'm actually quite un-bitter about it for the most part. Everyone has days where they feel down (because of IF or other things) but that doesn't make them bitter... And for the record, I didn't "lash out at her in fun". This is just a vicious cycle that could go on and on and on. It's basically two sides of an argument and we'll never agree.. and that's totally fine. As I said previously, I wish the OP nothing but the best of luck in whatever decision she makes. Take that as you will. If wishing her the best of luck makes me all those nasty, hateful things I was called, then so be it.

     You are trying to back track so badly right now!! It's funny to watch. You did not come on here so nicely.

    I'm not backpeddling anything. I stand by what I originally said and everything I've said since. I'm sorry if it comes across as something other than what I originally intended. It's difficult to convey everything I feel/think/say over a little internet message board. If my clarifications caused confusion and made you think I was backpeddling, well, that's not the case.

    I C&Ped my response to her original post on another board. Apparently my response is more fitting in that environment so I do regret bringing over here. I really didn't realize it would cause the drama of the day. Everything I said came from a very sincere heart and I honestly don't think anything I said was hateful or spiteful. I had no idea it would be taken the way it has been.

    Yes, it's a sucky situation for her to be in. Yes, think she should suck it up and deal with the situation and the responsibility that comes with it. No, I didn't say she had to be happy about it. Yes, I think she should be grateful. Yes I realize that even using BCP that things can happen and it throws your life plan for a loop. Yes, I think she should seek a counselor, regardless of the decision she makes with the baby. No, I do not think her conceiving has any relation to my particular IF. Yes, I think she needs to SERIOUSLY look into sterilization for her or your husband if they do not want more children, especially now knowing that she can get pregnant on bcp. Did I miss anything? I stand by my original reply and everything I've said since.

    And let me expound on the "grateful" thing one last time... I was absolutely not "making fun" of her by mentioning IF. Absolutely not! I was simply trying to convey that many women, myself included can't get pregnant so she should be grateful that she can. That doesn't mean she has to be suddenly ecstatic about the situation. I can only imagine how difficult it is for her right now. Anyway, as I'm sure you all know, it's difficult to get across your thoughts and feelings in their entirety in a short thread. I still don't think I have done a good enough job explaining it, but it is what it is and this is long enough.

    And I do not appreciate being called a Bitter Betty. That's low. I did not resort to name calling, so thanks for that. Thanks to Winston for standing up for me on that. We may not agree on the rest of this thread, and that's fine, but I appreciate you calling that out.

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    As I said previously, I wish the OP nothing but the best of luck in whatever decision she makes. Take that as you will. If wishing her the best of luck makes me all those nasty, hateful things I was called, then so be it.

    You have to know how sarcastic that sounded in your OP. It did not sound genuine or heartfelt. It sounded like the you added it on just so you could be a crazy, bitter, rageaholic without getting flamed. If you are going to such d!ck to the OP at least own up to it and don't back track. I hope you keep your best luck to yourself because the OP doesn't need it.

    No, I truthfully did not think it sounded sarcastic and I absolutely did not mean it to be sarcastic.  Not every post is meant to be snarky or sarcastic. It may have been interpreted differently, but I certainly didn't mean that line to be taken sarcastically. I'm not back tracking on anything. 

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    1. I never said she had to be happy about it. I understand it's a difficult situation.

    So what was the 'suck it up' horseshit back there?

    Really? I am not happy about paying bills. I am not happy when I have to have my blood drawn. I am not happy when I have a stupid meeting to go to, but I "suck it up"... Same thing in this situation. Suck it up =/= be happy. Didn't realize it was that confusing. Sorry.

    Yes, because paying bills and going to a meeting is the same thing as carrying, giving birth, and then raising a child for 18 years. Holy shiit, do you really not see how you're wrong here?  

    Responsibility = Responsibility.  Varying degrees of it, but regardless, it's all under the umbrella of responsibility. She can keep the baby, abort the baby, give it up for adoption,whatever. It's still her responsibility to suck it up and deal with the situation at hand.

    Seriously, the way y'all are freaking out over my comments is almost comical. There's no reason to get in a tizzy over it. It's a public message board. She asked for advice and opinions and I gave her mine, which really wasn't that awful compared to some other things that were said to her. You can agree or you can disagree and call me names. Whatever. I really, truly don't care.

     I am new here, just started lurking today, and I have to say you sound really really bitter. I am  sorry that you are having IF problems but coming on an internet board and lashing out at people for fun isn't going to help it. She never said she wasn't going to suck it up, she just was stating what her current situation is. Just like I am sure you are somewhere posting about your IF. Maybe you should just suck it up and not post anywhere about the trials that come along with that, bitter Betty!

    I'm actually not very bitter at all. A lot of IF chicks hate the "it's in God's hands" or "it'll happen when it happens" or "everything happens for a reason" but I actually believe those and am fine with it. Sure, I'd love a baby and am doing what I can to achieve that, but I'm ok with what is right now. I'm actually quite un-bitter about it for the most part. Everyone has days where they feel down (because of IF or other things) but that doesn't make them bitter... And for the record, I didn't "lash out at her in fun". This is just a vicious cycle that could go on and on and on. It's basically two sides of an argument and we'll never agree.. and that's totally fine. As I said previously, I wish the OP nothing but the best of luck in whatever decision she makes. Take that as you will. If wishing her the best of luck makes me all those nasty, hateful things I was called, then so be it.

     You are trying to back track so badly right now!! It's funny to watch. You did not come on here so nicely.

    I'm not backpeddling anything. I stand by what I originally said and everything I've said since. I'm sorry if it comes across as something other than what I originally intended. It's difficult to convey everything I feel/think/say over a little internet message board. If my clarifications caused confusion and made you think I was backpeddling, well, that's not the case.

    I C&Ped my response to her original post on another board. Apparently my response is more fitting in that environment so I do regret bringing over here. I really didn't realize it would cause the drama of the day. Everything I said came from a very sincere heart and I honestly don't think anything I said was hateful or spiteful. I had no idea it would be taken the way it has been.

    Yes, it's a sucky situation for her to be in. Yes, think she should suck it up and deal with the situation and the responsibility that comes with it. No, I didn't say she had to be happy about it. Yes, I think she should be grateful. Yes I realize that even using BCP that things can happen and it throws your life plan for a loop. Yes, I think she should seek a counselor, regardless of the decision she makes with the baby. No, I do not think her conceiving has any relation to my particular IF. Yes, I think she needs to SERIOUSLY look into sterilization for her or your husband if they do not want more children, especially now knowing that she can get pregnant on bcp. Did I miss anything? I stand by my original reply and everything I've said since.

    And let me expound on the "grateful" thing one last time... I was absolutely not "making fun" of her by mentioning IF. Absolutely not! I was simply trying to convey that many women, myself included can't get pregnant so she should be grateful that she can. That doesn't mean she has to be suddenly ecstatic about the situation. I can only imagine how difficult it is for her right now. Anyway, as I'm sure you all know, it's difficult to get across your thoughts and feelings in their entirety in a short thread. I still don't think I have done a good enough job explaining it, but it is what it is and this is long enough.

    And I do not appreciate being called a Bitter Betty. That's low. I did not resort to name calling, so thanks for that. Thanks to Winston for standing up for me on that. We may not agree on the rest of this thread, and that's fine, but I appreciate you calling that out.

    I am sorry for my hurtful words as well. I actually caught myself name calling when I am preaching that it is never ok to be mean. And I am sorry if I mistook anything you said and hope that you really do mean whell for this woman. Everyone has different situations and have the right to feel how they feel. GL to you! And I guess I am joining the boards today!! LOL! Hello everyone. Happy Tuesday!

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     No it doesn't, at all. OMG you are just as bad!! Calling her crappy or bitter are the same thing. You are twisting my words to just cause a fight. Get over it. She was being crappy, sh*tty, whatever you want to call it! You even said yourself she was bitter!! LOL! Never did I say I knew what they were going through, i said i would never make fun of someone for having IF. Where did I say I knew what she was going through? Where? Quote it. I said I would never make fun of someone for it. Jeez!  Saying she is bitter is not making fun of her IF issues. If I said "ha ha you can't have kids" Then that would be making fun of her. I was saying she was using her IF to be mean to someone and that is not ok. I don't care if I have never been though it, it doesn't mean it gives her a right to be mean. End of story.

     oh and the dad thing was because you said find a kid who lost their parent. Just sayin...

    *sigh*

    I said of course she's bitter because it's a common thing when you're struggling with IF.  You don't need to point it out - that's gross.  Please get this through your head - using someone's bitterness against them is gross.  It's sinking to the same level as this girl was.  You were just as bad as her.

    If you weren't trying to use your sister's infertility and all the adoptions in your family of examples of your excellent understanding of infertility, then I really have no idea why you would bother to bring them up.  Maybe you should go have a fight with your sister about pregnancy and infertility, call her bitter Betty, and see how that goes over.

    But I don't know why I'm bothering because you clearly aren't capable of wrapping your brain about this. 

    And because you don't really make a lot of sense, I don't know if your last statement is saying that you were lying about your dad, or you just brought it up as some bizarre example.  Either way, no, it doesn't count.

    ETA: And no, I'm not just as bad.  I called someone out on her behaviour, and I did it without being scornful about the bad thing that has happened to her.  See how that works?  Respect someone's pain, especially when you don't understand it, but speak up when someone's out of line.

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    I am sorry for my hurtful words as well. I actually caught myself name calling when I am preaching that it is never ok to be mean. And I am sorry if I mistook anything you said and hope that you really do mean whell for this woman. Everyone has different situations and have the right to feel how they feel. GL to you! And I guess I am joining the boards today!! LOL! Hello everyone. Happy Tuesday!

    Thanks.. I really appreciate that. I swear, I really do mean well for the OP and I regret that my words were taken the wrong way! It's difficult to get across every thought and emotion via a message board so I know that my words are the emotion behind them are bound to get twisted into something I never intended. I'm not a vengeful person at all and everything I said came from a good place and with good intentions. I didn't mean to get OP or anyone else up in a tizzy over anything.  So I apologize if that is the case. Again, I just want to clarify that I am not back peddling on anything I said, but I meant everything sincerely with the best intentions. I'm not out to make enemies on S&R or anywhere on the nest/bump for that matter!

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     No it doesn't, at all. OMG you are just as bad!! Calling her crappy or bitter are the same thing. You are twisting my words to just cause a fight. Get over it. She was being crappy, sh*tty, whatever you want to call it! You even said yourself she was bitter!! LOL! Never did I say I knew what they were going through, i said i would never make fun of someone for having IF. Where did I say I knew what she was going through? Where? Quote it. I said I would never make fun of someone for it. Jeez!  Saying she is bitter is not making fun of her IF issues. If I said "ha ha you can't have kids" Then that would be making fun of her. I was saying she was using her IF to be mean to someone and that is not ok. I don't care if I have never been though it, it doesn't mean it gives her a right to be mean. End of story.

     oh and the dad thing was because you said find a kid who lost their parent. Just sayin...

    *sigh*

    I said of course she's bitter because it's a common thing when you're struggling with IF.  You don't need to point it out - that's gross.  Please get this through your head - using someone's bitterness against them is gross.  It's sinking to the same level as this girl was.  You were just as bad as her.

    If you weren't trying to use your sister's infertility and all the adoptions in your family of examples of your excellent understanding of infertility, then I really have no idea why you would bother to bring them up.  Maybe you should go have a fight with your sister about pregnancy and infertility, call her bitter Betty, and see how that goes over.

    But I don't know why I'm bothering because you clearly aren't capable of wrapping your brain about this. 

    And because you don't really make a lot of sense, I don't know if your last statement is saying that you were lying about your dad, or you just brought it up as some bizarre example.  Either way, no, it doesn't count.

    ETA: And no, I'm not just as bad.  I called someone out on her behaviour, and I did it without being scornful about the bad thing that has happened to her.  See how that works?  Respect someone's pain, especially when you don't understand it, but speak up when someone's out of line.

     haha seriously! rolls eyes  and walks out..have a good day!

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     haha seriously! rolls eyes  and walks out..have a good day!

    Yeah, that's what people usually say when they've been completely disarmed and refuse to take responsibility for being a crappy person.  Good job!

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    OP, this situation sucks. I was in the exact same position in January - had been on BC for a year, got pregnant in late October/early November. We aren't in a financial position to raise another one, our DD is 14 months right now. In our case, H & I were ready to make our finances work and happily raise another, however, I had a m/c at the end of January, right as we'd started to come out of the shock and started planning and being excited for it. .
    I just wanted to say that I really admire how you handled that situation and I am sorry for your loss.
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     haha seriously! rolls eyes  and walks out..have a good day!

    Yeah, that's what people usually say when they've been completely disarmed and refuse to take responsibility for being a crappy person.  Good job!

    no it means I agree to disagree. We are never going to see eye to eye on this so I am moving on.

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     haha seriously! rolls eyes  and walks out..have a good day!

    Yeah, that's what people usually say when they've been completely disarmed and refuse to take responsibility for being a crappy person.  Good job!

    no it means I agree to disagree. We are never going to see eye to eye on this so I am moving on.

    We're never going to see eye to eye on whether or not it's okay to use people's pain against them?  Oh, okay.  I'm sorry that that's the kind of person you are.  Good luck with that.

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