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Re: Other side: "Why don't you just gain some weight?"

  • Maybe I didn't look as skinny as I thought I did (lol), but when I was very thin (5'10" 125 lb), I never had anyone say anything like this to me. I had girlfriends say things like "I'm sooo jealous" and one time I and a coworker ask me if I was OK and say he was concerned because I seemed to be losing a lot of weight (which actually I had - my size 4 clothes were falling off me - and I was not, in fact, OK). I never had anyone say anything dickish to me about my weight or size.

    of course, I never had anyone say nosy pregnancy things to me when I was pg either, so maybe I just scare people Lol.
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  • imagetartaruga:
    Maybe I didn't look as skinny as I thought I did (lol), but when I was very thin (5'10" 125 lb), I never had anyone say anything like this to me. I had girlfriends say things like "I'm sooo jealous" and one time I and a coworker ask me if I was OK and say he was concerned because I seemed to be losing a lot of weight (which actually I had - my size 4 clothes were falling off me - and I was not, in fact, OK). I never had anyone say anything dickish to me about my weight or size.

    of course, I never had anyone say nosy pregnancy things to me when I was pg either, so maybe I just scare people Lol.

    I'm not trying to say that it is the same, I just would like to point out that if one more mofo makes some comment about me eating a biscuit, I'm going off. I should have cussed my grandfather out about the miscarriage comment, but I was in another family member's house and it was Christmas. Baby Jesus saved his azz. 

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    One of those rare times where one can confuse a 1st world problem with a 3rd world problem.  lol
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    ITA. I've been on the receiving end of these kinds of comments since I was a teenager. They've always been said jokingly, usually with an undercurrent of envy, and absolutely never with the kind of disgust people talked about in the threads yesterday. I don't think you can really compare here bc Msmery is right, there *is* such a thing as thin privilege in our society. These kinds of comments or questions are more on the level of causing a minor annoyance than deep pain and I would never think to publicly complain about it. 

    Then obviously you've never had your own mother tell you that you deserve to have the other girls in school shun you and say, "Why do you think, skinny minny?" when you ask her why they are so mean to you for no reason. Obviously you've never had a boss who you overheard telling another supervisor that she passed you over for a promotion because "there's something wrong" with you being so thin, meaning an eating disorder, meaning you are too distracted by constant diets in their minds to handle extra responsibility. Obviously you've never tried 20 things on in the fitting room and found yourself crying because they were all too big and made you feel like a mutant, and the sales girl practically shouted at you, "NO, we don't have any petite sizes!" If you had family members behave as if their love was conditional upon you gaining weight so you would "fill out" and "look like a woman," or forced yourself to eat even when you felt sick just to make other people happy only to find that the 5 pound weight gain isn't good enough for them, you might understand about the emotional pain. I'm glad nobody did this to you, because nobody should have their own family do this to them, but I assure you, it can be very emotionally painful.

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  • Huh.  For a long time I was 5'8" and about 125.  I never had these problems.  I am now about 10 lbs above that and feel uncomfortably fat.  This whole post is weird.  5'4" at 120 doesn't seem abnormally thin at all.  Maybe my perception is skewed.  
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  • imagecaden:

    I can definitely relate. I'm 5'11" and have always been very thin (120lbs in high school, maybe 135 now). It's true that very thin people get mean comments all the time. I could post a wall o' text of all the mean-spirited, embarrassing comments people have said to me. I still get them a lot and I'm in my 30s so it never stops. That said, I don't think skinny people have it nearly as bad as fat people. I used to think we did, especially in the wake of such comments as, "you won't be able to carry a child until you put some meat on your bones" (luckily this was said to me before I did 3 IVF cycles, otherwise I'd be in jail, but I never forgot it.) Whenever I complained to my friends about the mean "are you anorexic?" comments I was always told, "it's because they're jealous." That didn't make me feel better, but it IS true that most of those comments are coming from that place. That's not true of the mean comments said to obese people. Those are just flat out cruel for no other reason than cruelty. Skinny people, especially tall ones, are idolized by entire industries (modeling, hollywood, etc) Fat people are mostly just [presented as] caricatures [in the media](edited to clarify). So while the comments hurt, we can at least turn to pop culture for emotional backup. As far as clothes go, I have no problem finding clothes to fit my skinniness. I have a lot of problems finding tall enough clothes though. I don't think the skinny size issues can compare to that of larger women's sizes. Tall sizes, maybe. (In that they're hard to find, limited and usually not made to look good on tall frames)

    I do think though that some skinny women can relate well to some of the food issues of obese women. Everyone has their own stories of weight issues so this may not apply to others, but for me, I think know how difficult it is to try to force yourself to eat differently than you want to eat. I have almost no self control when it comes to food. My cholesterol is probably ridiculous for someone of my size and age. But I lucked out in that I don't crave sweets or snacks or fast food, hardly ever. I just don't like to eat fatty foods and I don't eat enough healthy food to put on much weight. When I was pregnant and told I had to eat 30g of protein 3x a day at least it was VERY hard for me. The only reason I had the willpower to do it was b/c I was terrified of miscarrying. Now, I could never eat enough good food to gain weight properly and if I were told by a bunch of people that I had to do so in order to be healthy or look good, I would fail and be miserable. There are a lot of other factors that go in to weight loss struggles that I have no clue about, but that one aspect I relate to. I hope I didn't offend a bunch of people. I'm extremely sensitive about weight issues IRL, and I don't know of a way to word this without pissing some people off, but I tried.

    Speaking as a fatty fatty fatterson, absolutely none of this was offensive. I agree with everything you said. The part I bolded about the media is one thing I was trying to get at earlier, so thank you for saying that better than I did.

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  • imagenitaw:

    Oh and my all-time favorite Thin Attack was by my late grandfather.

    Imagine Christmas dinner, you miscarried earlier in the year and you are told ...

    "Well, if you would gain some weight, you could keep a baby."

     

    Yup, I have gotten similar comments when talking about IF. "Maybe if you gained some weight, you'd get pregnant!"

    I have always struggled to maintain a healthy weight (can't gain no matter how much I eat) and have been mocked for being anorexic/a "concentration camp inmate"/you name the insult since I was a kid.

    It sucks. 

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  • Even if it stems from jealousy a lot of comments to skinny girls are mean spirited, not all but definitely some.

    On the flip side, not all comments made to overweight/obese people are out of disgust, some are out of pure concern and nothing else. 

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  • This thread makes me teary too. Sigh.
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  • Legit question here- Did anybody in any of these threads (both too skinny and too heavy) have a mother who was encouraging and positive about body image and health and you still ended up with eating/food issues?

    Maybe I'm completely naive here but I find the number of people who had mothers that were constantly tearing them down based on appearance to be really, really high.

    Maybe I really was just that lucky to have the mother I did.

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  • imagenitaw:

    Oh and my all-time favorite Thin Attack was by my late grandfather.

    Imagine Christmas dinner, you miscarried earlier in the year and you are told ...

    "Well, if you would gain some weight, you could keep a baby."

     

    This is why I didn't tell my family about my m/c. I started to tell my mother and she immediately changed the subject to my diet. I let it go and we have never discussed it again, nor did I bring it up to any other relative. I don't think I could have handled it. Kudos to you for not killing that crusty old bastrd where he stood.

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  • imagejamiedsgirl:
    Huh.  For a long time I was 5'8" and about 125.  I never had these problems.  I am now about 10 lbs above that and feel uncomfortably fat.  This whole post is weird.  5'4" at 120 doesn't seem abnormally thin at all.  Maybe my perception is skewed.  
    Maybe mine is too but according to the BMI calculator 110-120 is in the normal range for that height. I've fluctuated in that range for the last fifteen years, I'm three inches taller, and have at most gotten "skinny ***" or "eat a sandwhich" type comments. Something sounds off about this story.
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  • imagehawkeye+:

    Legit question here- Did anybody in any of these threads (both too skinny and too heavy) have a mother who was encouraging and positive about body image and health and you still ended up with eating/food issues?

    My mother has NEVER done that to me. Namely because she too is thin. LOL I have never felt anything but normal when I was home. That's why I was shocked in jr high when someone asked if I had an eating disorder.

    My mom was always a stickler for eating a well balanced meal. I don't always eat as well as I would like, but like my mom, I tend to cook meals that are balanced and always keep veggies and fruit in the house.

    The only comments I've had about my weight were from other people - classmates, co-workers, and my azzhat grandfather. Right before my wedding, my  grandmother noticed that I had gained weight ( was around maybe 142lbs) and said "GIRL, You are getting FAT. What are you eating?!" *sigh* No woman, I changed bc pills and I was fighting with my dr because I was convinced that the pills caused the weight gain. After I stopped taking the pills, my weight stabilized. 

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  • I will also say that having been thin and having been overweight, I'll take thin ANY day. I would gladly take "eat a sandwich" comments every day in exchange for magically losing 60 pounds.
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    imagenitaw:

    Oh and my all-time favorite Thin Attack was by my late grandfather.

    Imagine Christmas dinner, you miscarried earlier in the year and you are told ...

    "Well, if you would gain some weight, you could keep a baby."

     

    This is why I didn't tell my family about my m/c. I started to tell my mother and she immediately changed the subject to my diet. I let it go and we have never discussed it again, nor did I bring it up to any other relative. I don't think I could have handled it. Kudos to you for not killing that crusty old bastrd where he stood.

    Girl, look, my uncle and my husband (my now ex-h) did one of those Color Purple close up the piano moves because they KNEW I was about to cuss him flat the fluck out. I didn't but told him that my weight had nothing to do with a miscarriage. Azzhole.  

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    imageMare0527:

    Even if it stems from jealousy a lot of comments to skinny girls are mean spirited, not all but definitely some.

    On the flip side, not all comments made to overweight/obese people are out of disgust, some are out of pure concern and nothing else. 

    I agree, but even comments coming from a place of concern are still hurtful and embarrassing. A few years ago my boss - my actual boss - asked me if my doctor had ever spoken to me about my weight b/c he was worried I had an eating disorder. Yeah apparently he was "just concerned," but since he had no reason to be it's still hurtful to think people you encounter view you as a walking, diseased skeleton in need of medical attention. I imagine obese people want to throat punch their "concerned citizens" and burst into tears just like I did.

  • I've had people make comments about my weight before (I'm 5'7" 130# now, at my lowest for this height I was closer to 120).  It doesn't particularly bother me, although it does often strike me as stupid, since I'm nowhere near underweight (which I think gets into our societal misconception about healthy weight). 

    I do get a little irritated by comments like "You're so lucky, you can eat whatever you want!", because I can't.  I'm hypothyroid, I have to be quite careful about what I eat and how much I exercise to maintain a healthy weight, and I think it's sh!tty in general when people assume that because they are having a difficult struggle with their weight, and that it has included gaining weight, that someone who isn't overweight isn't actually having to work to achieve that.

    I don't think it's the same issue as fat-shaming, but I don't think it matters.  To me, comments about being underweight aren't that cutting, because I'm happy with my weight.  There are obese people who feel the same way.  There are plenty of people who are thin that have body image issues, and it's just as sh!tty to poke at them as someone who's fat, and I don't give a rat's ass whether it's from disgust, jealousy, or whatever.  


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  • imagecaden:
    imageMare0527:

    Even if it stems from jealousy a lot of comments to skinny girls are mean spirited, not all but definitely some.

    On the flip side, not all comments made to overweight/obese people are out of disgust, some are out of pure concern and nothing else. 

    I agree, but even comments coming from a place of concern are still hurtful and embarrassing. A few years ago my boss - my actual boss - asked me if my doctor had ever spoken to me about my weight b/c he was worried I had an eating disorder. Yeah apparently he was "just concerned," but since he had no reason to be it's still hurtful to think people you encounter view you as a walking, diseased skeleton in need of medical attention. I imagine obese people want to throat punch their "concerned citizens" and burst into tears just like I did.

    That is kind of my point though.  

    Someone saying something assy to you doesn't make it okay just because they were saying it because they were jealous... even if the one saying it didn't think they were being assy.

    Everyone just needs to STFU about everyone else's weight. 

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    Lest we not forget being called ...

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    All three of these I have heard before. Olive Oyl and Skeletor were by kids and family members. Jack the Pumpkin King was in college.

    Granted, again, it was never the experience of being bullied like overweight kids have to endure, but I did want to punch a few folks in the eye. 

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  • imagesnapplegirl:
    imagejamiedsgirl:
    Huh.  For a long time I was 5'8" and about 125.  I never had these problems.  I am now about 10 lbs above that and feel uncomfortably fat.  This whole post is weird.  5'4" at 120 doesn't seem abnormally thin at all.  Maybe my perception is skewed.  
    Maybe mine is too but according to the BMI calculator 110-120 is in the normal range for that height. I've fluctuated in that range for the last fifteen years, I'm three inches taller, and have at most gotten "skinny ***" or "eat a sandwhich" type comments. Something sounds off about this story.

    I'm 5'6" and my doc is happy when I'm staying above 120. I get all sorts of rude comments, but it's when I'm weighing below 100lbs. Of course, I've got kid-bearing hips and linebacker-worthy shoulders, so my weight loss is usually hidden until it affects my face.

    And frankly, it's not the "Eat a cookie" comments that bother me, it's the "it must be great", "I'll trade you any day", and the "you look great" comments that bug me.

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    imageMare0527:

    That is kind of my point though.  

    Someone saying something assy to you doesn't make it okay just because they were saying it because they were jealous... even if the one saying it didn't think they were being assy.

    Everyone just needs to STFU about everyone else's weight. 

    Oh ok. I thought you were saying b/c they're not necessarily coming from a cruel place people shouldn't be so hurt by them. Ditto that everyone should just STFU about other people's weight.
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    imagenitaw:

    Caden -

    Lest we not forget being called ...

    All three of these I have heard before. Olive Oyl and Skeletor were by kids and family members. Jack the Pumpkin King was in college.

    Granted, again, it was never the experience of being bullied like overweight kids have to endure, but I did want to punch a few folks in the eye. 

    We are either in the exact same circle, or people are very unclever and unoriginal with their anti-thin people comments!
  • imagenitaw:

    Granted, again, it was never the experience of being bullied like overweight kids have to endure, but I did want to punch a few folks in the eye. 

    I always wonder how gadawful comments like that are to someone with an eating disorder like anorexia.  I'm pretty damned sure they don't take it as a "they're just jealous" compliment, and the pointed attention on their weight helps maintain the eating disorder.  (Just like someone being upset over being called fat may cope by eating).


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  • I lost a shitton of weight after my DD died and my BMI still hovers right around the underweight/normal line and I frequently get comments about it. I want to offer these people a nice big cup of STFU. Like we mentioned in the last thread about overweight people knowing it, when I was 122 last summer (I am 5'10"), I knew I was too skinny. I didn't need everyone pointing it out to me. Given the events of my personal life, I don't think its any wonder that I suffered some type of stress related weight issue. Right now, I am around 130 and I know that is thin for my height, but its not drastically underweight. That said, its not something I get too worked up over and I think that teasing on the other side, for being overweight or morbidly obese, is much more mean spirited and I don't try to compare the two.
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  • I'm just shy of 6' and 135 pounds.  My twin sister is 5'4 and probably at her heaviest was closer to 200 pounds.  I have it way, way easier then she does when it comes to any sort of comments (good natured or not).  To pretend otherwise would be insulting.
  • I am not trying to minimize the hurt/humiliation that some people get about being too thin, because no one has the right to comment on someone else's body, however; in this country, I feel like:

    making fun of someone for being "fat" is also implying that they are stupid and lazy;

    making fun of someone for being "skinny" implies admiration and envy for their willpower and/or activity. 

    Does that makes sense? They are both loaded words, but loaded differently. 

    I am sorry to anyone who has ever been made to feel badly about their body type, regardless of their weight. 

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  • Just jumping in to validate the OP.

    To all of the doubters, I actually HAVE heard the "how doesn't he break your hips?" line, too. I, luckily, haven't had anyone hand the guy I was with her numbers telling him to call when he wanted a "real" woman, but like Caden, I could probably fill a wall of text with the nasty comments I've rec'd about my weight over the years.

    Until very recently, I hovered around the 105lb mark at 5'4", and was STILL getting nasty comments. I'm now up to about 110lb, and I don't receive quite as many (though I still get a few), but I still get nasty stares and eyerolls when I order a chopped salad, or when I offer to split a candy bar with someone. I just don't like fast food or sugar - though gpoint at tartargua can attest to my weakness for french fries - I'm not a fan of salty things, and I'm one of those weird people who never really recovered from my gallbladder surgery, so I can't physically eat a lot of fatty foods without become ill. I don't know that there's any way I could possibly eat enough to gain the kind of weight that people seem to want me to gain without becoming violently ill all-day, everyday.

    I get that the comments are coming from a place of jealousy, I really do. But that does NOT erase the hurt that they cause in the least.  I spent a lot of time as a teen (when I weighed closer to 90 lbs and was flat as a board) crying over the comments I heard. And a lot of time in my early twenties a bit teary-eyed over the "you're not a real woman" comments I heard because I didn't have curves.

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  • Ok, so a bunch of people have said now that they don't think the weight I listed for the height I listed is excessively thin. TBH, I don't think so either, but people have always acted like it, and clothes don't fit me, so I presume I must be. Here's a pic of me at 118 about a year before my BFP. I should point out:

    1) This is the only full length pic of me on my computer right now aside from wedding pics, which I won't post because my H doesn't like me putting pics of him online, and of course he's in my wedding pics. I do realize that posting a pic of me towel-snapping the Old Spice guy is kind of absurd. (And you might have to scroll over to see me in some browswers--I am not secretly a man.)

    2) Later at this same party, a woman my H used to work with was talking a lot of sh*t about me being skinny and being really touchy-touchy on him, right in front of me, until I told her to go the f*ck home and sober up before I put a foot up her @ss. Again, not the first/only time, but one of the more embarrassing ones since we go to this industry event every year so I know I'll probably see her again.

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  • imagecookiemdough:

    I am not sure I am wording this well, but here goes:

    Nothing wrong with discussing the experiences, but I don't know if I really view this as the exact opposite side of the discussion yesterday.  I have witnessed people saying mean things to friends of mine who are very thin, but the difference is that those comments always (or at least seemed to) come from a place of jealousy.

     Hello all, lurker popping in.  I have always been tiny.  I have been asked some of the same things as some on this thread, am I anorexic?  Can I not just eat a cupcake or something?  It doesn't matter to me if it comes from a place of envy or from spite, it is still extremely hurtful to hear.  And I am not sure if the person who is having these comments made to them can tell the difference. 

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    I've got about five inches on you and weigh the same (actually less), and I have never in my life experienced anything like that.  Break your hips f'ing you?  Something isn't really adding up for me. 
    Agreed!  I'm 5'8" and around that weight due to little more than luck and no one has ever said anything that low or hit on my husband in front of me. And I was a little kid and did the weight gain shakes, too and while i was teased ("Olive Oil" was my nn, as in Popeye's girl). OP, methinks you are just somehow thrown in with trashy, rude people at these functions. And I'd have someone fired in a heartbeat if spoken to that way at work. WTF? What grown ups talk this way?
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  • At 5'6", 105 lbs in high school, I used to get the "eat a sandwich" comments all the time. That didn't bother me as much as when teachers would speak to other teachers about how they thought I had an eating disorder, and then address the issue to their classes (my friends- it was a pretty small school). I had sit downs with the principal a couple times to discuss my "issue". It was pretty embarrassing.

    I guess it would bother me more though if I was overweight and people were having the same discussions about me. Because I knew I was healthy, and everyone that was close to me knew I was healthy, it was easy enough to let the comments roll off my shoulders. 

    (OP, I know you aren't saying one side has it better or worse than the other.) 

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