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Would you say something? UPDATED

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Re: Would you say something? UPDATED

  • I'm glad you said something.  People who say stuff like that and don't think it's offensive are completely ignorant. 
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    imageBCV513:

    Yes, she meant jewish american princess.

    it's funny but I am totally desensitized to the use of jap and am not offended by that one at all. I was in a sorority with a bunch of spoiled rich Jewish girls from long island. Our house was self described as jappy. Lol

    That was my take away too.  I didn't know JAP was offensive.

    I personally would have reported your co-worker to HR though.  That was obviously a derogatory use of the term.

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    imageBCV513:
    I would definitely say something. A girl in my dorm called me a JAP one day, and I went right to the Dean. Well, after I called my dad to find out what it meant. It's not appropriate.

    ::whispers:: what does it mean? 



    Jewish-American Princess. It's basically like telling any other female that they're "Daddy's little Princess" but in a WAY more racist way. 

    Huh?

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  • Maybe I'm jumping in somewhere I don't want to go but why is JAP more offensive, than, for example, WASP?  I have always used and heard them used in similar ways - to describe upper class people of a certain background. 
  • imageBCV513:

    Yes, she meant jewish american princess.


     

    Sorry!  I was not sure of your background like others are.

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    cleo- gypped was one of the recent ones they were saying in my office

     

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    image+Elle+:
    Maybe I'm jumping in somewhere I don't want to go but why is JAP more offensive, than, for example, WASP?  I have always used and heard them used in similar ways - to describe upper class people of a certain background. 

    IDK, I'm going to call my dad to check.

    BRB

     

  • imageCleo29:
    That too, but with all the letters capped, I assumed they meant the other. Speaking of learning that something is offensive, I had no idea the term "gypped" was bad until I looked it up.  Learning something new everyday!

    I'm pretty sure I need to attach a perma-zipper to my mouth at this point.

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    image+Elle+:
    Maybe I'm jumping in somewhere I don't want to go but why is JAP more offensive, than, for example, WASP?  I have always used and heard them used in similar ways - to describe upper class people of a certain background. 

    IDK, I'm going to call my dad to check.

    BRB

     

    Too bad my dad is dead... I'm missing out on knowing all the things that should be offending me on the daily!

    Floyd P. Bamker - can't spell
  • image+Elle+:
    Maybe I'm jumping in somewhere I don't want to go but why is JAP more offensive, than, for example, WASP?  I have always used and heard them used in similar ways - to describe upper class people of a certain background. 

    Because White Anglo Saxon Protestants don't have a long history of being oppressed and discriminated against.  There's a certain context and power imbalance when calling someone a JAP vs a WASP.   There's a lot of history attached to the words.

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    image+Elle+:
    Maybe I'm jumping in somewhere I don't want to go but why is JAP more offensive, than, for example, WASP?  I have always used and heard them used in similar ways - to describe upper class people of a certain background. 

    Because White Anglo Saxon Protestants don't have a long history of being oppressed and discriminated against.  There's a certain context and power imbalance when calling someone a JAP vs a WASP.   There's a lot of history attached to the words.

    Well, to be fair, rich jewish american girls don't really have a long history of oppression either.  And if you want to decontextualize and consider just historical religious discrimination, the protestants faced it too, so I don't think that's a basis for distinguishing the terms.

  • imagePeachyKate:
    imageBCV513:

    Yes, she meant jewish american princess.


     

    Sorry!  I was not sure of your background like others are.

    alz-what a wench

    cleo- gypped was one of the recent ones they were saying in my office

     

    Oh please don't be sorry. I didn't even think twice about your question.

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    image+Elle+:
    Maybe I'm jumping in somewhere I don't want to go but why is JAP more offensive, than, for example, WASP?  I have always used and heard them used in similar ways - to describe upper class people of a certain background. 

    Because White Anglo Saxon Protestants don't have a long history of being oppressed and discriminated against.  There's a certain context and power imbalance when calling someone a JAP vs a WASP.   There's a lot of history attached to the words.

    Apparently JAP was coined by Jews (male Jews) so is JAP worse than WASP because of feminism or because of Judaism?:

    The Jewish princess (JAP) stereotype was a construct of, and popularized by, post-war Jewish male writers,[1] notably in Herman Wouk's 1955 novel, Marjorie Morningstar[2] and Phillip Roth's 1959 novel Goodbye, Columbus featuring princess protagonists.[3]

    The term "JAP" and the associated stereotype gained attention beginning in the 1970s with the publication of several non-fiction articles such as Barbara Meyer's Cosmopolitan article "Sex and the Jewish Girl" and the 1971 cover article in New York Magazine by Julie Baumgold, "The Persistence of the Jewish Princess".[4] "JAP" jokes became prevalent in the late 1970s and early 1980s.[5][6] The JAP stereotype's rise to prominence in the 1970s resulted from pressures on the Jewish middle class to maintain a visibly affluent lifestyle as post-war affluence declined.

     

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  • What are they calling the nouveau riche Persians of Southern California again?

     

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  • I'm only half Jewish. My dad is Jewish and my mom is Catholic. I was raised Catholic, so I probably don't really count. But when my dorm mate called me a jap, it was more in the context that she said it than the word itself. She met my dad for the first time when we moved back in from winter break, took one look at him and said to me (after he left) "I had no idea I had been living with a jap all this time." I had never even heard the word before.
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  • imagelaptopprancer:

    Apparently JAP was coined by Jews (male Jews) so is JAP worse than WASP because of feminism or because of Judaism?

    So many ways to be offended!  GOLDMINE!

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  • imageBCV513:
    I'm only half Jewish. My dad is Jewish and my mom is Catholic. I was raised Catholic, so I probably don't really count. But when my dorm mate called me a jap, it was more in the context that she said it than the word itself. She met my dad for the first time when we moved back in from winter break, took one look at him and said to me (after he left) "I had no idea I had been living with a jap all this time." I had never even heard the word before.

    How did she know, did he give you a Rabbit convertible?

    (I'm kidding, I'm kidding - yeah that's not so nice)

    I'm sort of scoping that it's okay as a deprecating self-reference but not ok when used by outsiders to be insulting.  Like I'll say I'm WT but I might get annoyed if you say I'm WT.

     

     

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    imagesagoon:

    image+Elle+:
    Maybe I'm jumping in somewhere I don't want to go but why is JAP more offensive, than, for example, WASP?  I have always used and heard them used in similar ways - to describe upper class people of a certain background. 

    Because White Anglo Saxon Protestants don't have a long history of being oppressed and discriminated against.  There's a certain context and power imbalance when calling someone a JAP vs a WASP.   There's a lot of history attached to the words.

    Well, to be fair, rich jewish american girls don't really have a long history of oppression either.  And if you want to decontextualize and consider just historical religious discrimination, the protestants faced it too, so I don't think that's a basis for distinguishing the terms.

    This is making me laugh. But it's do true. My sorority sisters with their 16th birthday gifted cars and Fendi bags were the epitome of oppressed haha. I just think jap is different. 
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    imagelaptopprancer:

    Apparently JAP was coined by Jews (male Jews) so is JAP worse than WASP because of feminism or because of Judaism?

    So many ways to be offended!  GOLDMINE!

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    This cracked me up... and I tend to agree.  I'm certain I could be offended all day, every day, if I really wanted to. 

    Floyd P. Bamker - can't spell
  • imagenunyabizz:
    imagelaptopprancer:

    Apparently JAP was coined by Jews (male Jews) so is JAP worse than WASP because of feminism or because of Judaism?

    So many ways to be offended!  GOLDMINE!

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    LOL 

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  • I'm sorry that was said to you...a surprising amount of people are completely stupid.....and they must think that everyone is dumber than they are.  Truly.

    One of the painters that my dh hired on a project said that to my husband the other day.....my dh is Jewish.   So my dh mentioned that he was Jewish and the guy said, "Oh Oh, I didn't mean it that way."  Later on, the guy wanted to "clear up the misunderstanding" and that he had in fact said "Screw him down NOT Jew him down" (der!).  OMG! Just own it and never say it again.....gah!!


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