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splitting the cost of expensive BC

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Re: splitting the cost of expensive BC

  • imageChasing Emmii:

    Sweetie, if I were going to be a golddigger, I'd surely do it with someone who didn't spend half his salary on his kids, and I'd ask for a hell of a lot more than $600.

     

    Well you do realize that your arguments don't sound so good, right? Saying that he wouldn't know that it lasts for ten years and that he wouldn't ask for money back if you break up because he's been generous to girlfriends in the past....

    Like you said, he has two kids to spend money on. Shelling out $600 to pay for your long term BC is probably last on his list of priorities.  

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  • If you two break up (it is a very realistic possibility after only 3ish months of dating), I doubt that your bf would be thrilled to know that he is paying for you to avoid getting pregnant with the guys you are having sex with for the next 10 or so years.
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  • imageRedVelvet29:

    If the tables were turned and a 34 year old man that I have been dating for 3 months asked me for $600 to help him pay for a vasectomy it would be really odd and weird. Honestly it would be a huge turn off that he couldn't afford his own medical expenses and expected me to provide this expensive alternative to condoms that might outlast our relationship by years.

    Yep, I'd personally bow out of that relationship really quickly.

    But given the weird history of this guy and his own kids, this whole relationship feels off.
  • imageRedVelvet29:

    If the tables were turned and a 34 year old man that I have been dating for 3 months asked me for $600 to help him pay for a vasectomy it would be really odd and weird. Honestly it would be a huge turn off that he couldn't afford his own medical expenses and expected me to provide this expensive alternative to condoms that might outlast our relationship by years.

    Agreed.  It would be an awkward convo where I would say "Let me think about it" and NEVER BRING IT UP AGAIN. 

  • imageChasing Emmii:

    Yes, we've both discussed how much we hate condoms.

    I guess I'm looking at it as, guys have no clue how long birth control lasts. Unless I tell him, he's never going to have any idea that it lasts for 10 years. 

    Oh, and I seriously doubt that if he did pay for half, and we did break up, he would ask for repayment. He loaned his ex-GF of a couple of months money to pay her rent so she wouldn't get evicted, and never asked for it back even after they broke up.

    This really sounds like you're ok with being dishonest and taking advantage of his good nature. I wouldn't feel to good about that personally.  

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  • I would just use condoms until you can save up for the Paraguard.  Personally, I wouldn't feel comfortable asking someone I'd only been dating for three months for that much money.
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    A friend of mine once wrapped up a package of her (new) birth control pills for her boyfriend - as if to say "I'm going on the pill so you don't have to use condoms."  Obviously, they weren't cheap, so she did this for a holiday or V'day or his birthday.  I thought it was incredibly tacky.

    I would not ask a new boyfriend to pay for my BC.  A long-term partner (that I wasn't married to)?  Yes, but not someone that new. 

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    stop fighting about this like a beebee.

    it is really f*cking weird to ask your boyfriend of three months to pay for a method of birth control that lasts ten years.

    Yep this. ALL of this.

  • imageLookingUp:
    imageChasing Emmii:

    Yes, we've both discussed how much we hate condoms.

    I guess I'm looking at it as, guys have no clue how long birth control lasts. Unless I tell him, he's never going to have any idea that it lasts for 10 years. 

    Oh, and I seriously doubt that if he did pay for half, and we did break up, he would ask for repayment. He loaned his ex-GF of a couple of months money to pay her rent so she wouldn't get evicted, and never asked for it back even after they broke up.

    This really sounds like you're ok with being dishonest and taking advantage of his good nature. I wouldn't feel to good about that personally.  

    This.... it also seems like you're trying to "pin him down" for the next ten years in an odd, underhanded way. I realize that is a lot of money, but if you're not living together or engaged, it's looks very tacky.

  • imagelovelybb:
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    imageChasing Emmii:

    Yes, we've both discussed how much we hate condoms.

    I guess I'm looking at it as, guys have no clue how long birth control lasts. Unless I tell him, he's never going to have any idea that it lasts for 10 years. 

    Oh, and I seriously doubt that if he did pay for half, and we did break up, he would ask for repayment. He loaned his ex-GF of a couple of months money to pay her rent so she wouldn't get evicted, and never asked for it back even after they broke up.

    This really sounds like you're ok with being dishonest and taking advantage of his good nature. I wouldn't feel to good about that personally.  

    This.... it also seems like you're trying to "pin him down" for the next ten years in an odd, underhanded way. I realize that is a lot of money, but if you're not living together or engaged, it's looks very tacky.

    This. I would only do this if I had been with someone for 1+ years or if we were engaged/living together, etc. 

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  • I agree with Starry, I would only ask the guy to pitch in on BC costs if one or more of the following condiitons were met:
    a) togetherfor 1+ years
    b) engaged
    c) living together and sharing expenses
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  • My BF offered to help me pay for half of mine, since my insurance doesn't cover it and I told him that I wouldn't feel comfortable accepting his money. He responded with, "Well, if you change your mind, let me know." And that was the end of the discussion.

     

    ETA: I would also like to add that when he and I spoke about it, I brought him the pamphlets and we discussed everything, like mature adults. I didn't hide the fact that it lasts 10 years etc... Why would you not tell him? 

     

    Also, something else you mentioned that rubbed me the wrong way was the fact that he makes more than double your salary. Who cares? That has nothing to do with it.  My BF makes more than me and I would have never even THOUGHT about asking him to pay for half, even if it cost $5,000. 

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  • You've already decided what you want to do.  You just came on here hoping we'd agree with you because I'm betting in your heart you know this is a weird thing to ask of this guy.

  • Yeahhhh....NO. I agree to some degree that both partners should take responsibility for birth control, both using it and paying for it, but not for a solution as long term as 10 years. I won't flame you and call you a golddigger, but I'm going to really encourage you NOT to have this conversation with him. There has to be another alternative that is less costly that will work for you and if not, deal with the condoms until you can afford the BC of your choice. And by your rules, if he's been supplying the condoms, you should be pitching in for half of that as well.
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  • imagelovelybb:
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    imageChasing Emmii:

    Yes, we've both discussed how much we hate condoms.

    I guess I'm looking at it as, guys have no clue how long birth control lasts. Unless I tell him, he's never going to have any idea that it lasts for 10 years. 

    Oh, and I seriously doubt that if he did pay for half, and we did break up, he would ask for repayment. He loaned his ex-GF of a couple of months money to pay her rent so she wouldn't get evicted, and never asked for it back even after they broke up.

    This really sounds like you're ok with being dishonest and taking advantage of his good nature. I wouldn't feel to good about that personally.  

    This.... it also seems like you're trying to "pin him down" for the next ten years in an odd, underhanded way. I realize that is a lot of money, but if you're not living together or engaged, it's looks very tacky.

    I completely agree. You need to find a way to solve your own financial problems, instead of looking for opportunities to mooch off your boyfriend.

  • imagekaneen:

    You've already decided what you want to do.  You just came on here hoping we'd agree with you because I'm betting in your heart you know this is a weird thing to ask of this guy.

    Yeah.  Agreed.  The coming back with "But he doesn't KNOW it lasts ten years" and "He wouldn't make me pay him back if we broke up" are asinine arguments.  Regardless of what he knows, it still DOES last 10 years and repayment is still something you would have to consider.   

  • I totally would. I'm so frugal, and expecially by that point in a relationship - I know you guys spend a lot of time at each other's places - I don't think it's out of line to discuss.

    That being said, I wouldn't come out and say, so you wanna go in on this? Like another PP said, not to play games, but I'd bring it up in a bc-discussion since it's a decision you'll have to make soon. I'd talk over the pros and cons of the options, tell him you're leaning heavily toward this one, and point out that this would rule out those pesky (and costly, after a while) condoms.

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  • I do think the guy should help pay for bc, but I think if you have only been dating a few months an expensive method like paraguard is a bit much to ask. BCPs made me a crazy b!tch, so I went off them when bf and I had only been dating 4 months or so. We talked about bc options, because that is the responsible thing to do, but we never talked about the financial aspect of it at that point. We ended up going the condom route, and he generally pays for them. Can you try a barrier method (not just condoms, but cervical cap or diaphram?)

    Now we live together and are planning to get married next summer, so if a different method of bc was needed, we'd certainly discuss it and I know he'd help pay. But we have been together 18 months and share a lot of financial responsibilities already.

  • Nope.  I wouldn't ask.  I think it's weird.  Instead, I would put as much money into savings as possible and deal with other methods of birth control over the course of the time it took to save up the cash.

    I mean, is it really that big of a deal to use foam/condoms/something else while you save the money?

    I've always viewed BC as a "my body, my responsiblity" thing though.  Sure, he should be informed but I would hope that the relationship is such that I would be making a responsible decision to protect us both from unwanted circumstances.

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  • imageChasing Emmii:

    I wouldn't have a problem with paying him back in the future, as having time to get together funds is easier than having it all "right now" (because the doctor won't allow payment plans on this, I've checked. It has to be paid for upfront in advance in order to have it done.) If I have to save for a year to even GET it, that's a year that's less protected from pregnancy. I'd be way more inclined to save over time to pay him back than wait to get it while saving. 

    I find this bizarre, because Paragard offers a 12 month payment plan separate from your doctor's office.  So, you would have to pay the doctor upfront for insertion (which is NOT $1200), and then you pay Paragard for the device and they DO offer a payment plan.  Paragard also offers reduced cost devices for women who qualify. It looks like you need to do a little more research on this before looking at your boyfriend as a bank.

    http://hcp.paragard.com/procurement-information/payment-options <-- see paragraph 2 under how patients pay for paragard.

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  • I guess I'm the only one that doesn't think this would be an awful convo to have?

     "Hey honey, I'm looking into different forms of birth control. Paraguard worked great, but its so expensive! I don't know if I could afford it. Do you have any ideas?"

     Then see where it goes from there

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