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Re: Why now?
I'm more disgusted with the Republican party at this point, and how they completely abandoned so many of the people they claim to represent. I'm hopeful that they can figure out where this election went wrong and make some serious changes.
Actually, I'm more hopeful that the Libertarians can find a strong candidate before 2012...
The election isn't social - it's political. The point is that neither McCain or Obama as president would do anything about abortion or gay rights politically. It will continue to be issues handled by the supreme court. Everyone has a right to believe what they want and it's not right to force our beliefs on others. And in the end, these people will not judge me - God will. Also, homosexuality and abortion aren't the only sins existing. What about drunkiness? Adultery? Etc.?
I'm also not for anyone receiving a handout from tax-payers - it pisses me off that I'm paying for some people to continue to be lazy. But not everyone, who's on welfare is lazy. Some people really need it. And Obama has been adamant about not giving people handouts, but the opportunity to help themselves.
amen and hell yes.... LOL
edit: although given the cards he was dealt....i don't know how anyone would have handled the last few years....
I'm not really sure what that means. Social issues are HUGE and responsible for a large number of votes. And while either man as President may not personally do anything about these social issues, the President will appoint Supreme Court justices that will have long-term effects.
celeste i know that you didn't mean to offend anyone. and i am certainly not (as i don't think anyone else is) trying to attack you for believing what you do (that is the beauty of living in this great country, isn't it?). but when you make a blanket statement like you don't understand how anyone who calls themselves christian could vote for him - that is going to rub people the wrong way. and that is my issue with that. i have my reasons for voting the way i do (as do you), and that does not make me any less christian or any less patriotic. period.
and just a sidenote...i have great respect for all of you ladies in here. and i am NOT trying to attack anyone. i think it is great that we can come together and have civilized discussion like this. and i appreciate everyone's opinion.
Can I get a hallelujah?
BTW, did anyone see McCain's consession speech? He is truly a great American, and I while I don't agree with his party or his policies, I would have been OK with HIM.
This is true Lauren! I am just trying to get us all to agree on something! Haha! All this fighting sucks!
Alesha - Again, I'm in no way trying to "force my beliefs on others." I am simply saying that Obama's stance on certain things are against MY beliefs...that's why I didn't vote for him. We're all entitled to our own opinions...that's one thing that makes this country so great. I really didn't mean to offend anyone. I'm usually not one to jump into debates, but I do feel strongly on certain things.
i really think i would have been ok with him too...and i honestly felt really sorry for him and that fact that bush (seemingly) proved to be such a detriment to the republican party this go around....
Yes! Although, Bush didn't make his decisions all by himself. McCain gave a great speech with grace!
I would of been okay with him also! His speech was so great! I think he was disappointed but I like how he asked the American people to come together!
I honestly don't care what other people's beliefs are. I respect everyone's opinion even if I don't agree with it and hope other's will do the same for me.
However, questioning my faith in God IS NOT ok. I have been through some awful times in my life and believe my struggles have only made my faith stronger. It is not just about socializing on Sunday's for me. It is a lifestyle that I work at everyday. I may be wrong in my political beliefs, but it isn't for anyone to decide but God.
The opinions stated today are not going to affect my opinion of any of you ladies. I love this board. I just hope it all dies down soon.
Thank you Bethany...well said!
Ladies - I am NOT questioning anyone's faith in God...come on....
I am finished with this topic...it's getting silly. I've got work to do. Peace out!
You're right, but the fact is that the president won't appoint Supreme Court memebers who will put into place laws that will cause such an uproar and reflect horribly on him. It's much safer to leave things as they are or try to get the states to pass their own laws. But then, not too much surprises me these days.
very well said.
The questioning my faith in God was not the right way to word that. I think I was projecting what I've heard lately from many people, not you. Everyone got rolled up into one. I apologize for that. My beliefs have been attacked a lot the past few days and I think I'm extra sensitive right now. Christianity is just a sticky topic for me right now. I am really not looking forward to church tonight.
Again I apologize.
The questioning my faith in God was not the right way to word that. I think I was projecting what I've heard lately from many people, not you. Everyone got rolled up into one. I apologize for that. My beliefs have been attacked a lot the past few days and I think I'm extra sensitive right now. Christianity is just a sticky topic for me right now. I am really not looking forward to church tonight.
Again I apologize.
Amy - No hard feelings!
I do respect everyone's opinion...I am also glad that we have a place like this board that we can voice our opinions and discuss them like adults.
I love how everyone gets so passionate and fired up about things like this. I believe it's truly time for someone to shake up the White House.
My opinion on this whole election issue and how people voted, (some based votes on moral issues others religious issues, etc.) is it's awesome that you get to pick and choose who you vote for, why you vote for them and that your voice gets heard.
I battled with choosing a candidate for a long time, yet I finally had to pick one MAJOR important issue and go with it. I like a lot of what Obama stands for and the same for McCain. I voted for McCain solely on his tax issues, nothing more, nothing less. Dh and I own a small business and I think McCain had better plans for small business than did Obama. I hope Obama can get in there and really turn this economy around b/c honestly it needs a major overhaul.
As PP's have stated, the only concern I have with Obama is his "share the wealth" theory. I know so many people that need this kind of thing, and then everyday I see more people abusing the Gov. help. The single mother who works 2 jobs and has a child, needs Gov. assistance, the other woman who has her hair fixed, nails done and sports a designer handbag DOES NOT need Gov. assistance, yet she swipes her foodstamp card everytime she goes to the store. These are issues that need to be resolved. Hopefully with the "share the wealth" comes job skills for people to better themselves, better opportunities in the work force to turn the economy around, so on and so fourth.
As far as the statement a pp said about how christians couldn't vote for Obama... I am reminded of Proverbs 31:
8 Speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves,
for the rights of all who are destitute.
9 Speak up and judge fairly;
defend the rights of the poor and needy.
I'm all for helping those who cannot help themselves. I just think that the system needs more programs to educate and help people get on their feet instead of just handing out money or food stamps.
We have to remember that not everyone is lucky as us and were born with families who stressed education and supported us. It's easy to point the finger and tell people to pull yourself up by your own bootstraps when we didn't do it ourselves.
I'm just saying that when I vote on issues, I try to keep everyone in mind. I know I for one would hate to live by some of the rules Muslims and people of other religions have. I think that some ideals are for you to live by yourself, not to force others to.
I really think that there should be a stronger separation of church and state. That is something this country was founded on. I think that it's sad that politics have been so intertwined in religious beliefs that we, as a country, are failing to see the bigger picture.
As far as "social" or morale issues go, I have a hard time supporting taking away someone's right because of a religious belief. If your religion dictates that you shouldn't have an abortion, or you shouldn't marry a person of the same sex, then it's very easy for YOU to not partake in those activities. However, we shouldn't take away the right to the woman who is choosing not to have a child, or not allow two men to share the same insurance policy.
It's not like if abortion is 'legal', then every woman out there is going to run out and terminate a pregnancy. I may not ever choose to do that, but I don't feel like it's MY right to take that opportunity away from someone else.
And as far as the Obama as the anti-christ claims that he is not patriotic (I didn't see anyone here make those statements), I think it's just ridiculous that anyone would think that someone who is running for the PRESIDENT of a country would even be allowed to get to that point.
And as the AARP campaign says "Divided we fail" - so instead of mourning McCain's Loss, or rubbing in Obama's win, we should focus on the future and the many changes that will come.
You're mistaken. He absolutely does wear them and did when he was on the campaign trail. Truthfully that should be the least of our worries on the world stage the day after an election, but just for the sake of the point- no, that is not true. There are plenty of pictures to prove it.