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Romney being tied to Voting Machines
...is concerning.
Also, concerning: Frank Marshall Davis (the "Frank" mentioned multiple times by Obama himself in his book Dreams From My Father). He was Obama's long-time mentor, selected for him by Obama's father, and was a card-carrying member of the Communist party, and on the FBIs hot list.
Re: Romney being tied to Voting Machines
Yeah I am much more concerned that Tagg owns (or has business ties to) Ohio's voting machines...
OMG. Communists!
We would never be connected with communists. EVER.
Except China.
If Romney was mentored by a freaking communist there's no way I'd vote for him. A lot of people don't know where Obama came from, and a lot of people don't care. They see what they want to see. But you know; anyone who points this out is just a conspiracist who made it up.
People can't even admit Benghazi was a major fail for the Obama administration. As far as what I can tell, he can do no wrong in dems eyes.
You guys realize the communists are not the enemy anymore right?
Why shouldn't Obama have friends of differing political ideologies? Would you be upset if he had friends who were supporters of pure democracy? Constitutional monarchy?
People can't even admit that 911 was a failure in the Bush adminstration. Bush was just awesome at keeping us safe.
I would be more likely to be disturbed at finding out Obama had a Republican mentor, over having one who was a Communist. True story.
ETA: and what do you mean people don't know where Obama came from or care? He has been properly vetted. I'm confused by that assertion. Who are these unaware people?
Even if the Communist Party is dead in this nation, political ideaology passed on, by way of mentorship, of our leaders, matters.
Obama was also tied to Rev. Wright who spoke out against homosexuals - everyone lauded this when Obama stepped away from him. Yet, in his book, Obama loves on Frank Davis and writes quite a bit about him. He has not distanced himself from Davis.
A Communist worldview isn't what the USA runs on and it is very contrary to our founding principles and documents. Communism is oppressive. It is not enlightened and progressive. It does not help the weak or the poor. It widens a gap. It takes away and sucks life out of a society and an economy. There was a reason the USSR was called "The Iron Curtain."
We need to question a person who sits in the Oval Office and professes a major difference from what America stands on. And, it is fair to say that as a mentor goes, so goes his pupil especially a pupil who writes about his mentor as recent as 1995 and has the literary work republished in 2004.
I just have to ask how can a man who wants to help the middle class so much, be enamored with a man as diametrically opposed to the USA as Davis was? Doesn't add up.
Having a Communist as volitile as Davis in your life as a close mentor while professing a somewhat Capitialistic economic and social view does not make sense and is akin to a leftward-leaning homosexual seeking mentorship from a devote, conservative Muslim (Muslims do not support homosexuality as it is contray to their beliefs). One of two things is occurring. Either the homosexual isn't really gay or the Muslim isn't really Muslim. Oil and water do not mix. These worldviews do not mix.
Communism and Capitalism do not mix. Oil and water. So, either Davis was not a Communist (which we know isn't the case, RE: FBI) or Obama is not a Social Capitalist and is therefore lying. If Obama were/is a Capitalist, he would not have sought life lessons from a Communist nor would he write so much about a man who had such an impact on his life who held this differing viewpoint.
One of the 5 Points that Romney is basing his campaign on means working closely with China.
If Romney wins, will that somehow be less sketchy than Obama being (supposedly) personal friends with a single individual who is a Communist?
If we want to talk about shady religious dealings, should we discuss how Romney was involved in baptizing dead Jews into the Mormon religion?
I was mentored by a hardcore Baptist whom I sing high praises of to this day. I am far from Baptist...very far.
Should Fez fear me?
But, it isn't just one person RE: Frank Davis. It is several people. Bill Ayers. Bernardine Dohrn. Both in the U.S. terrorist group Weather Underground, responsible for bombing the U.S. Capitol Building and Pentagon to protest the Vietnam War.
I wasn't talking about shady religious dealings. But you're correct. That is something I am familar with also RE: bapitzing dead Jews and do not feel comfortable with either. I guess I ask myself which idealology affects the Oval Office and the international strength of our most powerful, prominent leader more. Communism or a religious practice?
I will go with Communism and I will site all the horrible outcomes of the USSR, China, and North Korea.
WORDS FROM/ABOUT DAVIS: And so, Davis targeted the Church in commentaries he wrote for the Chicago Star, the Communist Party publication of which he was the founding editor-in-chief from 1946-48.
In one commentary, a July 20, 1946 piece titled, ?A-Bombs for Russia,? Davis began by expressing his admiration for Stalin?s Russia: ?I salute the Soviet Union,? stated Davis. ?I admire Russia for wiping out an economic system which permitted a handful of rich to exploit and beat gold from the millions of plain people?. As one who believes in freedom and democracy for all, I honor the Red nation.?
If you are not Mormon, you most likely don't know anything about baptisms for the dead. I suggest reading this and educating yourself.
http://mormon.org/faq/topic/temples/question/baptism-for-the-dead
Edit: You might want to explore the site a little more, so you can know what the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is about and their beliefs. Without knowing the religion as a whole, an act such as this sounds strange. But there are many religions with traditions that might sound odd at first without the appropriate understanding. Mormon.org is a wonderful place to do this. You should look into it if you are really concerned about the religion.
Are you familiar at all with the treatment of the serfs and peasants under Tsarist Russia? It wasn't exactly puppies and rainbows.,
Also, that piece was written almost 70 years ago.
70 years.
I'm familiar with it.
It shouldn't be done without the express permission of the families of the deceased.
I'm pretty sure that didn't happen.
Have you been on a college campus lately? I think the root of most of our problems is from the commies infiltrating colleges. I know you'd disagree.
THIS
my read shelf:
I've studied the Mormon history and culture at length. A lack of knowledge isnt why I find this practice disturbing.
Like any faith, it has its redeemable qualities. I don't deny that. But the Baptism of the dead, especially those who were tortured for their faith, is vulgar.
Perhaps when you are indoctrinated in the faith, you don't have a proper perspective on why this is an offensive act.
lololol.
Yes, I've been on a college campus lately.
There are communists, socialist, Trustafarians, and military recruiters.
Are we sure it's 2012 and not 1952? The race is still between Romney and Obama, not Stevenson and Ike, right?
Because all this talk of the red threat is making my head spin.
Very well put.
It is not a bad thing to have friends of differing political ideologies.
The problem lies when you only discuss issues with people who agree with you 100%. Then you get no new information or no other viewpoints.
QFT!
my read shelf:
There are many people who are converts to the church. Millions. And they don't choose so because they don't have the proper perspective. You are intelligent enough to know this is through your eyes. You cannot dictate that for others. And yes I am Mormon, and I can totally see how it looks weird to people. It looked weird to me when I was first investigating the chuch. But I have a testimony of the gospel and I know those on the other side don't have to choose to accept it if they don't want, but we feel they should be at least given the opportunity. I'm grateful I can baptize my deceased family members and others that never had the chance and that they can know the happiness I have in my life now.
I generally don't like to go there with religion because its such a personal topic, whether you are religious or not. But your last comment was offensive to those that are Mormon.
You're so enlightened.
You're so enlightened.
You're so enlightened.
The dead Jews who were baptized by the Mormons were ones who were killed because they were Jewish.
Do you not see where the baptism would be offensive to their families?
Thank you.
It's offensive to posthumously baptize people who were murdered because of their faith. Obviously your beliefs prevent you from understanding why. Terribly sorry if that offends you. The alternative to my last comment is that you understand and don't care. And quite frankly, that's worse.
I have no issue with you baptizing your family members. I can understand that sentiment, in a way. You hope to see them again. I get it. I just simply differ on baptizing those to which you have no connection.