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Petraeus Resigns as Director of CIA

NY Times has a breaking news alert.  Looking for more info...

ETA- it seems due to an extramarital affair.

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Re: Petraeus Resigns as Director of CIA

  • imageEllaHella:

    NY Times has a breaking news alert.  Looking for more info...

    ETA- it seems due to an extramarital affair.

    just heard the same on NPR

  • I honestly don't understand why he had to resign over this.  I can't seem to find any detailed info yet.  What am I missing? 
  • imagemissymo:
    I honestly don't understand why he had to resign over this.  I can't seem to find any detailed info yet.  What am I missing? 

    Yea- weird huh? I guess there will be something big comming

    soon. I think he is resigning before whatever it is comes to light.

    Can't wait to see how this plays out.

  • imagechiualover:

    imagemissymo:
    I honestly don't understand why he had to resign over this.  I can't seem to find any detailed info yet.  What am I missing? 

    Yea- weird huh? I guess there will be something big comming

    soon. I think he is resigning before whatever it is comes to light.

    Can't wait to see how this plays out.

    The military takes the whole adultery thing very seriously- dishonorable discharge seriously. I imagine Petraeus resigned his commission upon taking the CIA job, but it could have just seemed the most appropriate thing to do, given his background with the military and the circumstances. 

     

    edit: see article 134 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, and this article here for more information about how involved the military is in soldiers' bedrooms...

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  • imageLexiLupin:
    imagechiualover:

    imagemissymo:
    I honestly don't understand why he had to resign over this.  I can't seem to find any detailed info yet.  What am I missing? 

    Yea- weird huh? I guess there will be something big comming

    soon. I think he is resigning before whatever it is comes to light.

    Can't wait to see how this plays out.

    The military takes the whole adultery thing very seriously- dishonorable discharge seriously. I imagine Petraeus resigned his commission upon taking the CIA job, but it could have just seemed the most appropriate thing to do, given his background with the military and the circumstances. 


     

    Always the General.  Yes, this is how I perceived it as well.  Security clearances even take those things into account when doing background and poly.  If he lied about it...definite cause for dismissal.

  • imageLexiLupin:
    imagechiualover:

    imagemissymo:
    I honestly don't understand why he had to resign over this.  I can't seem to find any detailed info yet.  What am I missing? 

    Yea- weird huh? I guess there will be something big comming

    soon. I think he is resigning before whatever it is comes to light.

    Can't wait to see how this plays out.

    The military takes the whole adultery thing very seriously- dishonorable discharge seriously. I imagine Petraeus resigned his commission upon taking the CIA job, but it could have just seemed the most appropriate thing to do, given his background with the military and the circumstances. 


     

    Yea, I forgot about that aspect. (I dated Colonel in the Air Force.)

    So you think that is the whole story then?

  • I would imagine if he were going out for any other reason, he would fall on the sword over Benghazi. 
  • imagechiualover:
    imageLexiLupin:

    The military takes the whole adultery thing very seriously- dishonorable discharge seriously. I imagine Petraeus resigned his commission upon taking the CIA job, but it could have just seemed the most appropriate thing to do, given his background with the military and the circumstances. 


     

    Yea, I forgot about that aspect. (I dated Colonel in the Air Force.)

    So you think that is the whole story then?

    Oh goodness, no idea- but as a military spouse routinely amazed by stories of soldier foolishness (on this topic and others) it was my first thought, given Petraeus's high standing with the military even if he is no longer commissioned. 

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  • imageEllaHella:
    I would imagine if he were going out for any other reason, he would fall on the sword over Benghazi. 

    I had wondered if Benghazi has anything to do with this.

    I hope it does play out that is just about the affair. 

  • ah! Now that I think about it, I do recall that the military has some strict rules regarding adultery.  Thanks for pointing that out.  Seems crazy that he's dunzo over that, but if that's the standard, I suppose he must go. 
  • DH (prior service) speculated it was while he was in the Army and it was a subordinate. That's a huge deal. 
  • imageEllaHella:
    DH (prior service) speculated it was while he was in the Army and it was a subordinate. That's a huge deal. 

    Whoa. Yeah.  I wasn't even thinking that his affair was with another service member.   That's why I was very "meh" about it.  

  • I don't think any of you actually seem to know why he resigned,

    But if it was due to an affair and you all are "so what", does that mean adultery is now your new okay normal? So is that another change with the times shift?

  • imagechiualover:

    imageEllaHella:
    I would imagine if he were going out for any other reason, he would fall on the sword over Benghazi. 

    I had wondered if Benghazi has anything to do with this.

    I hope it does play out that is just about the affair. 

    I just heard a snippet of this on the radio on my way home.  Seems like he will not be testifying at next week's inquiry regarding Benghazi.  Interesting.... 

  • imagekbmom:

    I don't think any of you actually seem to know why he resigned,

    But if it was due to an affair and you all are "so what", does that mean adultery is now your new okay normal? So is that another change with the times shift?


    What are you saying? That people should lose their jobs if they commit adultery? I can see if they are in the military and it goes against the code of conduct or sumshit, but in the private sector? No. 
  • imagekbmom:

    I don't think any of you actually seem to know why he resigned,

    But if it was due to an affair and you all are "so what", does that mean adultery is now your new okay normal? So is that another change with the times shift?

    Funny, it's always the "small government" folks who want to be inside a person's home, bed, uterus... 

    Jack Anderson 2.28.10 Our amazing little man. image
  • imagekbmom:

    I don't think any of you actually seem to know why he resigned,

    But if it was due to an affair and you all are "so what", does that mean adultery is now your new okay normal? So is that another change with the times shift?

    If he was in the private sector, adultery would mean jackshiit when it came to how well he did his job.

    If you think that all CEOs of major corporations are without sin, you are dumb. 

    He should be fired for what the other said, not for merely committing adultery.

    Should JFK have been impeached for getting it on with Marilyn Monroe?  Should FDR have been fired for having an affair?

    Girl, please.  Don't try to blame this on "new fangled ideas".  Adultery has been going on for as long as there's been marriage. 

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  • imagekbmom:

    I don't think any of you actually seem to know why he resigned,

    But if it was due to an affair and you all are "so what", does that mean adultery is now your new okay normal? So is that another change with the times shift?

    I know why he resigned. 

    HEADQUARTERS Central Intelligence Agency
    9 November 2012

    Yesterday afternoon, I went to the White House and asked the President to be allowed, for personal reasons, to resign from my position as D/CIA. After being married for over 37 years, I showed extremely poor judgment by engaging in an extramarital affair. Such behavior is unacceptable, both as a husband and as the leader of an organization such as ours. This afternoon, the President graciously accepted my resignation.

    As I depart Langley, I want you to know that it has been the greatest of privileges to have served with you, the officers of our Nation's Silent Service, a work force that is truly exceptional in every regard. Indeed, you did extraordinary work on a host of critical missions during my time as director, and I am deeply grateful to you for that.

    Teddy Roosevelt once observed that life's greatest gift is the opportunity to work hard at work worth doing. I will always treasure my opportunity to have done that with you and I will always regret the circumstances that brought that work with you to an end.

    Thank you for your extraordinary service to our country, and best wishes for continued success in the important endeavors that lie ahead for our country and our Agency.

    With admiration and appreciation,
    David H. Petraeus


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  • imageEllaHella:
    DH (prior service) speculated it was while he was in the Army and it was a subordinate. That's a huge deal. 

    The most credible current rumor is it is his biographer.

    -My son was born in April 2012. He pretty much rules. -This might be the one place on the internet where it's feasible someone would pretend to be an Adult Man.
  • Why wont the conservatives believe anything?  I am so confused.  There is no conspiracy.  We need everyone to come back to reality.  The polls aren't wrong.  Romney and Ryan did not win every debate. Taxes did not go up on November 7.  Obama is a citizen of the US.  Racism exist in America.  There are not millions of cases of voter fraud.  Allowing gay people to marry does not mean we have to allow children to marry adults.  Our founding fathers were not perfect.  Obama nor did anyone else "let" people die in a terrorist attack.  Petraeus had an affair and resigned because of it.  The climate is changing.

    I am asking in all seriousness.  Why the mistrust?  Why wont conservatives believe anything? I have never seen anything like this.

     

  • imageJan8:

    Why wont the conservatives believe anything?  I am so confused.  There is no conspiracy.  We need everyone to come back to reality.  The polls aren't wrong.  Romney and Ryan did not win every debate. Taxes did not go up on November 7.  Obama is a citizen of the US.  Racism exist in America.  There are not millions of cases of voter fraud.  Allowing gay people to marry does not mean we have to allow children to marry adults.  Our founding fathers were not perfect.  Obama nor did anyone else "let" people die in a terrorist attack.  Petraeus had an affair and resigned because of it.  The climate is changing.

    I am asking in all seriousness.  Why the mistrust?  Why wont conservatives believe anything? I have never seen anything like this.


     

    Wait a minute. You have to provide a source for every one of these statements. How dare you post this without several unbiased sources.

  • imageJan8:
    Petraeus had an affair and resigned because of it.  The climate is changing.

    I do imagine he chose intentionally to wait until after the election to reveal his resignation. But considering he has worked well with both Dems and Republicans, I doubt this is partisan or part of a cover-up.

    -My son was born in April 2012. He pretty much rules. -This might be the one place on the internet where it's feasible someone would pretend to be an Adult Man.
  • imagekbmom:
    imageJan8:

    Why wont the conservatives believe anything?  I am so confused.  There is no conspiracy.  We need everyone to come back to reality.  The polls aren't wrong.  Romney and Ryan did not win every debate. Taxes did not go up on November 7.  Obama is a citizen of the US.  Racism exist in America.  There are not millions of cases of voter fraud.  Allowing gay people to marry does not mean we have to allow children to marry adults.  Our founding fathers were not perfect.  Obama nor did anyone else "let" people die in a terrorist attack.  Petraeus had an affair and resigned because of it.  The climate is changing.

    I am asking in all seriousness.  Why the mistrust?  Why wont conservatives believe anything? I have never seen anything like this.


     

    Wait a minute. You have to provide a source for every one of these statements. How dare you post this without several unbiased sources.

    Why you mad though?

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  • imagekbmom:
    imageJan8:

    Why wont the conservatives believe anything?  I am so confused.  There is no conspiracy.  We need everyone to come back to reality.  The polls aren't wrong.  Romney and Ryan did not win every debate. Taxes did not go up on November 7.  Obama is a citizen of the US.  Racism exist in America.  There are not millions of cases of voter fraud.  Allowing gay people to marry does not mean we have to allow children to marry adults.  Our founding fathers were not perfect.  Obama nor did anyone else "let" people die in a terrorist attack.  Petraeus had an affair and resigned because of it.  The climate is changing.

    I am asking in all seriousness.  Why the mistrust?  Why wont conservatives believe anything? I have never seen anything like this.


     

    Wait a minute. You have to provide a source for every one of these statements. How dare you post this without several unbiased sources.

    http://community.thenest.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/69648727.aspx

    http://community.thenest.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/69600496.aspx

    http://community.thenest.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/69509457.aspx

    to post a few...

  • imagejustAphase:
    imagekbmom:
    imageJan8:

    Why wont the conservatives believe anything?  I am so confused.  There is no conspiracy.  We need everyone to come back to reality.  The polls aren't wrong.  Romney and Ryan did not win every debate. Taxes did not go up on November 7.  Obama is a citizen of the US.  Racism exist in America.  There are not millions of cases of voter fraud.  Allowing gay people to marry does not mean we have to allow children to marry adults.  Our founding fathers were not perfect.  Obama nor did anyone else "let" people die in a terrorist attack.  Petraeus had an affair and resigned because of it.  The climate is changing.

    I am asking in all seriousness.  Why the mistrust?  Why wont conservatives believe anything? I have never seen anything like this.


     

    Wait a minute. You have to provide a source for every one of these statements. How dare you post this without several unbiased sources.

    Why you mad though?

    Bullying makes me mad and most of you who came over from the parenting board are a bunch of bullies.

  • imagekbmom:
    imagejustAphase:
    imagekbmom:
    imageJan8:

    Why wont the conservatives believe anything?  I am so confused.  There is no conspiracy.  We need everyone to come back to reality.  The polls aren't wrong.  Romney and Ryan did not win every debate. Taxes did not go up on November 7.  Obama is a citizen of the US.  Racism exist in America.  There are not millions of cases of voter fraud.  Allowing gay people to marry does not mean we have to allow children to marry adults.  Our founding fathers were not perfect.  Obama nor did anyone else "let" people die in a terrorist attack.  Petraeus had an affair and resigned because of it.  The climate is changing.

    I am asking in all seriousness.  Why the mistrust?  Why wont conservatives believe anything? I have never seen anything like this.


     

    Wait a minute. You have to provide a source for every one of these statements. How dare you post this without several unbiased sources.

    Why you mad though?

    Bullying makes me mad and most of you who came over from the parenting board are a bunch of bullies.

    Also, your double standard makes me mad. I mention this only because you asked. I am sure you could not care less.

  • imagekbmom:
    imagejustAphase:
    imagekbmom:
    imageJan8:

    Why wont the conservatives believe anything?  I am so confused.  There is no conspiracy.  We need everyone to come back to reality.  The polls aren't wrong.  Romney and Ryan did not win every debate. Taxes did not go up on November 7.  Obama is a citizen of the US.  Racism exist in America.  There are not millions of cases of voter fraud.  Allowing gay people to marry does not mean we have to allow children to marry adults.  Our founding fathers were not perfect.  Obama nor did anyone else "let" people die in a terrorist attack.  Petraeus had an affair and resigned because of it.  The climate is changing.

    I am asking in all seriousness.  Why the mistrust?  Why wont conservatives believe anything? I have never seen anything like this.


     

    Wait a minute. You have to provide a source for every one of these statements. How dare you post this without several unbiased sources.

    Why you mad though?

    Bullying makes me mad and most of you who came over from the parenting board are a bunch of bullies.

    Says the person who compared liberals to crazy rats.  

    Maya Avery 3/2011
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  • Stop bullying her by disagreeing with her and showing evidence that her arguments are incorrect!!! You're so mean!!!!
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  • imagekbmom:
    imagekbmom:
    imagejustAphase:
    imagekbmom:
    imageJan8:

    Why wont the conservatives believe anything?  I am so confused.  There is no conspiracy.  We need everyone to come back to reality.  The polls aren't wrong.  Romney and Ryan did not win every debate. Taxes did not go up on November 7.  Obama is a citizen of the US.  Racism exist in America.  There are not millions of cases of voter fraud.  Allowing gay people to marry does not mean we have to allow children to marry adults.  Our founding fathers were not perfect.  Obama nor did anyone else "let" people die in a terrorist attack.  Petraeus had an affair and resigned because of it.  The climate is changing.

    I am asking in all seriousness.  Why the mistrust?  Why wont conservatives believe anything? I have never seen anything like this.


     

    Wait a minute. You have to provide a source for every one of these statements. How dare you post this without several unbiased sources.

    Why you mad though?

    Bullying makes me mad and most of you who came over from the parenting board are a bunch of bullies.

    Also, your double standard makes me mad. I mention this only because you asked. I am sure you could not care less.

    What double standard? The sources thing? I like to see liberals cite legit, unbiased sources too. Like NA said in another thread, I wouldn't trust MSNBC as my main news source just like I don't think Fox News should be one.  

    Maya Avery 3/2011
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  • Also, I did not say someone should lose their job due to adultery. But I find people saying adultery is just "meh" to them disturbing.
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