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Friend Question

Jae179Jae179 member
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edited June 2014 in Relationships

Hi everyone,

May I have your opinions please? I am wondering what to do about a friend.

I've had a friend for a while. She has been there for me in the past and takes the time to do thoughtful little things here and there for me. I hadn't talked to her in a while and so I emailed her. She responded that she had been quite ill for some time. A few days later in another email she mentioned she was having an issue with a family member.

I emailed her back "poor you. Drama seems just so attracted to you". She responded by asking what I meant by that and I wrote "nothing bad. The world just seems to bring you so much negativity that you don't need". She responded that she would no longer share things with me if that's how I felt about her and our friendship- that all she did was bring drama,negativity and my pity to the table (which is not what I meant- she is not a big complainer and is there for me also) and has not talked to me since.

Was what I said wrong? I am pretty confused and would like some insight. Should I apologize? What am I missing? I really didn't mean any harm.


Thank you very much everyone I really appreciate it.


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Re: Friend Question

  • Dude.  Really.  You can't see what is wrong.  She's been ill and now she is have problems w/ a family member (and what those "issues" are, you don't seem to actually know).  And you say "poor you.  Drama seems attracted to you"???

    And then your follow up? 

    how about "I'm so sorry to hear.  It sounds like you're having a rough time.  Please know I'm here to listen to you if you need me."?

    But... I don't know if it's worth actually trying to explain this if you really can't figure out what is wrong with what you said. 
    "Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."
    ~Benjamin Franklin

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  • GilliCGilliC member
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    Jae179 said:

    Hi everyone,

    May I have your opinions please? I am wondering what to do about a friend.

    I've had a friend for a while. She's been there for me despite being very busy and takes the time to do thoughtful little things here and there for me. I hadn't talked to her in a while and so I emailed her. She responded that she had been quite ill for some time. A few days later in another email she mentioned she was having an issue with a family member.

    I emailed her back "poor you. Drama seems just so attracted to you". She responded by asking what I meant by that and I wrote "nothing bad. The world just seems to bring you so much negativity that you don't need". She responded that she would no longer share things with me if that's how I felt about her and our friendship- that all she did was bring negativity and my pity to the table (which is not what I meant- she is not a big complainer and is there for me also) and has not talked to me since.

    Was what I said wrong? I am pretty confused and would like some insight. Should I apologize? What am I missing? I really didn't mean any harm

    Thank you very much everyone I really appreciate it.

    Oh my! Did you really write that?! That's horrible!

    Since you say this person is a friend, I'm guessing you meant it genuinely, but remember that your tone of voice doesn't come along with the message. Even when I read your message, it sounded like the snarky comment someone around here might reply to suspected MUD. The "poor you" probably read as sarcastic, and then you basically called her a drama llama!

    If you meant it sincerely, you need to contact her and explain that you're terribly sorry that your message came across that way (not that she misinterpreted), and you truly meant that she didn't deserve the bad things that have happened to her. Groveling may be in order. Flowers wouldn't hurt.
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  • Jae179 said:

    Hi everyone,

    May I have your opinions please? I am wondering what to do about a friend.

    I've had a friend for a while. She's been there for me despite being very busy and takes the time to do thoughtful little things here and there for me. I hadn't talked to her in a while and so I emailed her. She responded that she had been quite ill for some time. A few days later in another email she mentioned she was having an issue with a family member.

    I emailed her back "poor you. Drama seems just so attracted to you". She responded by asking what I meant by that and I wrote "nothing bad. The world just seems to bring you so much negativity that you don't need". She responded that she would no longer share things with me if that's how I felt about her and our friendship- that all she did was bring drama,negativity and my pity to the table (which is not what I meant- she is not a big complainer and is there for me also) and has not talked to me since.

    Was what I said wrong? I am pretty confused and would like some insight. Should I apologize? What am I missing? I really didn't mean any harm


    Thank you very much everyone I really appreciate it.


    Yes, what you said was wrong.  

    Yes, you should apologize.

    Being ill does not equal drama and how dare you compare the two.

    I really don't know what else to say to you if you truly can't comprehend what you said and have to go to internet strangers for advice.  

    This is mean, but I have a feeling this kind person would be better off without you in their life.

    I mean really ?  You are truly confused by what she said to you ?
  • Do you really not think you said anything wrong?  Are you kidding?  That was a passive aggressive zinger.  I know someone who always says shit like what you said, and I can't stand her and neither can a lot of people. 

    If you are really unaware of why you were wrong, I'm not sure what to say.  You either lack any social graces, or have some deep issues.
  • Jae179Jae179 member
    10 Comments
    edited May 2014
    I'm not sure if this makes any difference but to put some more context into it- I shared some extremely exciting, life changing news with her and although she did email me congratulations and offered advice if I ever need it- all she did was mail me a congratulations card and leave it at that and I guess I felt like I didn't need to hear her problems, if that makes any sense...because I want to enjoy this time. I don't know if that makes any difference at all. But I still hadn't meant anything terrible by it.
  • GilliCGilliC member
    Ancient Membership 5000 Comments 500 Love Its First Answer
    edited May 2014
    Jae179 said:
    I'm not sure if this makes any difference but to put some more context into it- I shared some extremely exciting, life changing news with her and although she did email me congratulations and offered advice if I ever need it- all she did was mail me a congratulations card and leave it at that and I guess I felt like I didn't need to hear her problems, if that makes any sense...because I want to enjoy this time. I don't know if that makes any difference at all. But I still hadn't meant anything terrible by it.
    I must be missing something:

    - You emailed her to say you're pregnant or engaged or buying a house or whatever.
    - She replied to congratulate you.
    - She mentioned that she's been ill (you know, since you "hadn't talked to her in a while.")
    - You "felt like you didn't need to hear her problems, because you want to enjoy this time."
    - You sent her a passive-aggressive reply calling her a drama queen.
    - She replied to give you a chance to explain what you meant (because surely you weren't dismissing your "thoughtful" friend's illness as drama).

    ...And now you're upset?

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  • Jae179 said:
    I'm not sure if this makes any difference but to put some more context into it- I shared some extremely exciting, life changing news with her and although she did email me congratulations and offered advice if I ever need it- all she did was mail me a congratulations card and leave it at that and I guess I felt like I didn't need to hear her problems, if that makes any sense...because I want to enjoy this time. I don't know if that makes any difference at all. But I still hadn't meant anything terrible by it.
    So you WERE being a passive aggressive bitch and you're actually pissed at HER? 

    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. 

    And LOL at "all she did".  Sounds like she was happy for you and showed you so accordingly.  what else is she supposed to do, exactly??????
    "Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."
    ~Benjamin Franklin

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  • Jae179 said:
     But I still hadn't meant anything terrible by it.
    And how can you seriously say this w/ a straight face?  You keep trying to claim you only meant well.  But if you did - why did you try to give us "context"?

    If you can't even be honest with yourself about your feelings and motives, you're never going to be a good friend. 
    "Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."
    ~Benjamin Franklin

    Lilypie Third Birthday tickers
    DS dx with celiac disease 5/28/10

  • Jae179Jae179 member
    10 Comments
    edited May 2014
    EastCoastBride said:

    how about "I'm so sorry to hear.  It sounds like you're having a rough time.  Please know I'm here to listen to you if you need me."?


    I did say when she mentioned she was ill that I'm here if you need to talk. The responses that I mentioned in my OP I didn't say until she mentioned an issue with a family member. I'm also not pissed at her, just disappointed that she didn't offer to get together or anything.

  • Huh?  So- she's only allowed to tell a (supposedly) good friend ONE bad thing?  Not two? 

    And what do you mean by she didn't offer to get together or anything?  She's clearly going through some shit right now, and you're mad that she didn't get in front of you PHYSICALLY to say "congrats"? 

    You say you're not pissed at her, but your "context" update tells a very different story.  You can try and talk your way out of it, bu tyou wouldn't have given us that "context" if you weren't upset about it and - in turn - taking it out on her.
    "Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."
    ~Benjamin Franklin

    Lilypie Third Birthday tickers
    DS dx with celiac disease 5/28/10

  • Sorry, but it sounds like you are being awfully selfish.
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  • I'll also say - while it's one thing to be a negative nelly, someone who is ALWAYS dealing w/ "drama", but it's an entirely different thing to be dealing with true shit that has been thrown your way.  ANd that sometimes comes in 2, 3's or more. 

    In these kinds of situations - someone going through a really shitty time ABSOLUTELY trumps you good news.  It sounds like she tried her best to acknowledge it.  But NOOOO, not good enough.  She needs to drop everything and come be all "ra ra ra" for you while you're all pissy and upset that "OMG - her bad luck came at a really inconvenient time for me!!!!". 

    You sound very self-centered and dishonest - at least with yourself. 
    "Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."
    ~Benjamin Franklin

    Lilypie Third Birthday tickers
    DS dx with celiac disease 5/28/10

  • Wowwwwww.  I stand by my first comment.  You have some real issues if you can't see how selfish you are being.  She sounds like a great friend and you sound like a crappy one.
  • wow seriously... at first i was going to try to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume u were trying to be thoughtful and maybe you were just clueless as  to how horrible you worded it ... but no it seems you really are that selfish. She said congratulations and she sent you a card for god sake! I don't ever send cards for a congratulations!

    And you are really that self centered that your friend is apparently really sick and having problems and you just don't care cus she dare to not worship at your feet. You want to enjoy this time? Um she's not stopping you from doing that! She's being a friend and sharing her life with you... which is what true friends do!

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  • This sounds awful, and you don't even seem to like or care about your friend. You have no real concern for what she's going through and instead just want her to offer to hang out?? Why don't you call her and say you want to take her out for dinner or a movie or whatever because you know she's having a tough time??
  • doeydodoeydo member
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    You seriously come across like "I don't care about your problems.  I am having good stuff going on in my life right now, so put a smile on and be happy for me all the time or just shut up".  Friendship is a two-way street, like any relationship.  She sounds like a good friend, and you sound like a shitty one.  She is there for you, you are not there for her.  In fact, you are quite mean and selfish. 
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  • You're lucky she didn't tell you off. Although she sounds too classy to do that.  

    With those rude comments you made following her nice gestures, I am really surprised. You actually would DESERVE to be told off. Maybe that would wake you up to make you see that you're in the wrong 100%. Can you truly not see that??  Dude....you effed up. If you TRULY care about this person (and it sounds like you don't or you would be trying to learn more about her illness, and family issues and actually LISTEN to her for a change instead of thinking "me, me, me"), it's time to reach out and genuinely be there for her.
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  • Jae179Jae179 member
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    Thanks everyone I do appreciate your comments. Please keep in mind I never actually said to her that I didn't want to hear her problems or anything like that
  • Jae179Jae179 member
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    I just wanted to add that I am having a hard time reconciling her lack of actions...yes she sent me a card both when I bought a house and announced my first pregnancy but she hasn't visited or asked me much about the pregnancy other than saying if I had any questions she'd be happy to answer them. I did say I'm here to listen to you when she told me she had been ill and I didn't mention how drama was so attracted to her until her second email about her family member issues. I know she is busy and is in school and has kids and I didn't but I visited her when she was pregnant and after the baby was born and asked about her and asked to hang out and she didn't do the same. She did send a baby gift. Am I just expecting too much?
  • VORVOR member
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    Jae179 said:
    I just wanted to add that I am having a hard time reconciling her lack of actions...yes she sent me a card both when I bought a house and announced my first pregnancy but she hasn't visited or asked me much about the pregnancy other than saying if I had any questions she'd be happy to answer them. I did say I'm here to listen to you when she told me she had been ill and I didn't mention how drama was so attracted to her until her second email about her family member issues. I know she is busy and is in school and has kids and I didn't but I visited her when she was pregnant and after the baby was born and asked about her and asked to hang out and she didn't do the same. She did send a baby gift. Am I just expecting too much?
    Stop comparing her to what you do, specifically.  I'm not one to ask people about their pregnancy.  What's there REALLY to ask?  Or answer?  If you want to talk about your pregnancy, then just TALK about it.  Stop waiting for people to ask. 

    And what does visiting someone when they are PG really mean too?  It would never occur to me to visit someone because they are PG.  ESPECIALLY for the fact that she has kids!  She has limited time.  Visiting a friend just because she's PG.... um, yeah, that wouldn't be high on my list of priorities.

    Yes, from what I read here, you are expecting to omuch.  You seem to expect "tit for tat".  "I do ___, so she should do __".  You need to have room in ANY relationship for respecting  your differences too.

    Look at what she DOES do for you.  You're so focused on what she doesn't do, you may be losing sight of what is really there.
  • GilliCGilliC member
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    edited June 2014
    I'm sorry, but the world does not revolve around you. She sent you cards and gifts. She has children and school work, yet she has taken time out of her (probably busy) life to send these things to you and to write to you. And now you're annoyed with her for not doing more.

    Please send us her info, because she sounds like a lovely person who could use some better friends!
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  • Jae179 said:
    I just wanted to add that I am having a hard time reconciling her lack of actions...yes she sent me a card both when I bought a house and announced my first pregnancy but she hasn't visited or asked me much about the pregnancy other than saying if I had any questions she'd be happy to answer them. I did say I'm here to listen to you when she told me she had been ill and I didn't mention how drama was so attracted to her until her second email about her family member issues. I know she is busy and is in school and has kids and I didn't but I visited her when she was pregnant and after the baby was born and asked about her and asked to hang out and she didn't do the same. She did send a baby gift. Am I just expecting too much?
     
     
    It seems like everytime you post, you only make yourself sound more selfish.  Not everyone reacts the same way to life events. Just because you feel the need to go see someone when they have had a baby, moved into a new home, etc doesn't mean others feel the same. On top of the fact that she told you she had been ill and also had family issues....it seems like you should put a little more thought into how SHE feels rather than yourself. If you had tried to confide in her about family issues and her reply to you was not that of empathy or comfort, but to tell you that your life is full of drama, how would you feel?
  • Still doesn't change my mind.  You are being incredibly obtuse and self absorbed here.
  • Jae179Jae179 member
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    So I haven't apologized but I took your advice and am reaching out- asking her how things are going. All I get back is civil and polite one liners.
  • I hate to sound harsh but are you surprised?? You acted incredibly selfish because she didn't react how you thought she should to some things that were going on in your life, and not only that but when she tried confiding in you about things that were going on with her you brushed it off as "your life is full of drama". I still think you aren't totally putting yourself in her shoes here. I would apologize for my actions first and then see where that gets you, of course if you aren't actually sorry for the way you behaved, then apologizing is a bit pointless.
  • VORVOR member
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    I hate to sound harsh but are you surprised?? You acted incredibly selfish because she didn't react how you thought she should to some things that were going on in your life, and not only that but when she tried confiding in you about things that were going on with her you brushed it off as "your life is full of drama". I still think you aren't totally putting yourself in her shoes here. I would apologize for my actions first and then see where that gets you, of course if you aren't actually sorry for the way you behaved, then apologizing is a bit pointless.
    She's not going to get it.  She's just not.  She incapable of putting herself in someone else's shoes.  I think she's utterly incapable of feeling any degree of empathy for other people.
  • I call mud. At least I hope no one is this much of a bitch and this clueless. But, I'll play along... OP what exactly is it that you expected from this friend? You self admitted you hadn't seen or talked to her in a while but did you expect her to throw you a party? Buy you a tv? Miraculously no longer be ill so as to not steal your limelight????
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  • Jae179Jae179 member
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    If I was your friend and said that to you and did not apologize, would you stop being my friend?

    I guess where I'm at is that I think I've always been a good friend to this gal in many ways and it was just one comment...is it really worth ending an entire friendship?

  • Jae179 said:

    If I was your friend and said that to you and did not apologize, would you stop being my friend?

    I guess where I'm at is that I think I've always been a good friend to this gal in many ways and it was just one comment...is it really worth ending an entire friendship?

    Yes I would end my friendship with you over this ONE comment.  

    In that ONE comment you implied that SHE was at fault for her illness and her problems with her family me member.  YOU pretty much stated that it is HER personality that creates the drama that is affecting her life. 

    I would not want to be a friend with someone who thinks so lowly of me.  I like my friendships to be based on mutual respect, compassion, empathy and support.  

    Support that YOU did not give to her.  YOU did not ask her if there was anything you could do to help her out, you know since she was sick and having problems with extended family all the while taking care of her husband, children and household. 

    The thing is, without reading the rest of your background, I would have dropped you like a pipping hot potato.  I do not need someone who cannot even muster up the basic empathy that makes a decent human being...

    but I sure as hell would not stay friends with someone who had the balls to say that the hard times going on in my life were my fault. 

    I think you, OP need to figure out why everyone who has read just your first post, let alone subsequent follow-ups ALL seem to find the fault with you.  

    When a variety of internet strangers, from all walks of education, socio-economic, cultural and regional life read and reply the same way, the problem is not with them. 
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