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Differences in Families

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    imageRyanBeans:

    It is offensive to me because he wants my family to get used to having us at the holidays all the time, then switch when we start a family. 

    I think I'm still missing it...

    what exactly is supposed to change when/if you guys have kid(s)?

    He's going to suddenly be close to his family so they can buy little Beauford presents or what?

  • Offensive was probably the wrong term. 

    I am well aware that he has issues, as do I.  I don't think a relationship is meant to be easy, I was in one of those relationships where I tried to fix it and it did fail.  I don't expect him to not be who he is, ... to finish later.

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    imageRyanBeans:

    Offensive was probably the wrong term. 

    I am well aware that he has issues, as do I.  I don't think a relationship is meant to be easy, I was in one of those relationships where I tried to fix it and it did fail.  I don't expect him to not be who he is, ... to finish later.

    Why not?

    I mean, no, no relationship is easy all the time.  But, I've never seen a relationship that was hard at the beginning be a 'good' one--it was usually hard because people were trying to force round pegs into square holes.

  • imageRyanBeans:

    I don't think a relationship is meant to be easy,

    Don't agree one bit.  Do most relationships have their ups and downs?  Absolutely.  But on a whole, yes, actually, I think a good relationship should actually be "easy". 

    The fact that you think relationships should be hard speaks volumes and it's most likely going to mean that you're more likely going to stay in a bad relationship too long (or even forever) because you've convinced yourself it's supposed to be hard.

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  • Hmmm... This was one of the ways I identified my DH. The relationship was so easy. The early days were effortless. Even now, the effort that we put into maintainance doesn't feel like a chore. It's simple.
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  • I think you need to let him lead with the relationship you have with his family.  For all you know there could be a very good reason WHY he doesn't want a relationship with them. 
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  • I feel like I could have written this post 8+ years ago about my then boyfriend. Who was long distance and I took on as a project. He was immature and was not close to his family. I pushed those things and didn't want to see him for who he was and often fought other people using the same type of language - relationships are supposed to be hard, that's what makes them so good/strong. Boy was I ever naive!

    I agree w/ ECB. Relationships go through ups and downs, but for the most part should be easy. It sounds like you want to fix this person, when you have absolutely NO control over their actions.

    If you cannot afford to live on your own, I suggest you stay where you are rather than making a rash decision to move in with this person. You shouldn't move in together because you can both afford it together and it makes financial sense. That is the worst reason to move in with someone IMO.

  • I don't feel that this relationship is difficult or trying.  My previous relationship I felt as though I had to try to keep it going, which is when I realized I should end it.  Thank you all for your concerns to my relationship and all of your points are valid.  But the extent of my relationship does not need to be posted in a community forum.  This relationship is good because it is good for me, it is the first time I have been happy since I was a teen.  I have been to therapists who recommended I mend the relationship I have with my mother.  Nothing assisted me in doing this so much as my boyfriend.  My ex made things worse with her, insisting that we should move away and never speak to my family again (which was red flag #1).  My current bf knows the difficult relationship I had previously with my family, and the one I still struggle with in regards to my sister and father.  But he supports me and reminds me that both my sister and father are only human, and that I shouldn't be so hard on them.  I just don't think that relationships should be expected to be easy, my mother told me this... she and my father have been together for 25 years. 
  • imageMuddled:

    He chose a TV show over family time. Buyer beware.

    Family time at Christmas, no less. He couldn't break himself away from his cartoons ten minutes early to go spend time with his family?

    What grade is he in, anyway?

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  • imageRyanBeans:
    I don't feel that this relationship is difficult or trying.  My previous relationship I felt as though I had to try to keep it going, which is when I realized I should end it.  Thank you all for your concerns to my relationship and all of your points are valid.  But the extent of my relationship does not need to be posted in a community forum.  This relationship is good because it is good for me, it is the first time I have been happy since I was a teen.  I have been to therapists who recommended I mend the relationship I have with my mother.  Nothing assisted me in doing this so much as my boyfriend.  My ex made things worse with her, insisting that we should move away and never speak to my family again (which was red flag #1).  My current bf knows the difficult relationship I had previously with my family, and the one I still struggle with in regards to my sister and father.  But he supports me and reminds me that both my sister and father are only human, and that I shouldn't be so hard on them.  I just don't think that relationships should be expected to be easy, my mother told me this... she and my father have been together for 25 years. 

     

    Well, if your mother said it, then it must be true.  No one who ever popped out a baby has ever been wrong, or stupid.

    Ten bucks says that she and your father aren't a successful marriage tale, and are instead each privately hoping that the other dies first.

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  • I'm guessing that RyanBeans is no older than 22. I'm betting that both she and her boyfriend currently live with their respective parents. And I'm betting that she's going to do her damned hardest to force this relationship into the mold that she thinks all relationships should be. The only question is whether her boyfriend will start tuning her out while he keeps her around for sex, or if he'll decide that sex isn't worth tolerating her crap.

    Not that he sounds like a winner, but he's already proven that he won't stand for people who "disrespect" him.

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  • Sometimes it's good to mend less-than-ideal relationships with family members. Sometimes it's not. Just because you had a good experience with it doesn't mean it's right for everyone. Family members don't need to be outright abusive to warrant distancing. Maybe your husband has just always felt like an outsider in his family. It's unfortunate, but it happens. You said yourself that the teasing from his siblings when he was growing up has had a noticeable impact on the way he deals with things today, so maybe his situation was worse than you realize.

    Also, I'm not getting your concern that your family will get used to seeing you two all the time and then have that taken away when you have kids, especially since you are the one pushing for more of a connection with his family. Why would you want to be closer to his family so badly right now but be bothered by it when you're a parent? It doesn't sound like your boyfriend said, "When we have kids we will NEVER see your family, we will only see my family!" And while you might see your family less than you do now, that's just something that happens in life, especially in connection with significant milestones, like getting married or having kids. As circumstances change, your relationships with other people sometimes need to change.

  • My $.02 would be- rather than focusing on how you want him to change his perspective on family or why you think he should be closer with them or how close you think you could influence them to be, use this as a moment to take a good hard look at your boyfriend.  This is who he is, what his perspective is, what he values, how he acts.  What you're proposing in your original question is how to change him to think and act more like you want him to.  Can you influence people to change their perspective? Sure, it definitely happens.  But the real question is- how much are you counting on him changing in order to be happy with the life you have together?

    If you're thinking, "I'd like him to be closer to his family, but if it never happens and he continues to be exactly as he is now, I'd still love being with him," then I would back off on the trying to encourage/ influence his relationships with them- it's his family and their relationship to work on, or not, in their own time and for their own reasons.  If you're thinking "I can't imagine spending the rest of my life like this, I always wanted to have close extended family on both sides and being with someone who wanted that too," then I would seriously reconsider whether this is the guy for you, and I'd definitely reconsider relocating and moving in with him.  

  • I also say let him decide what kind of relationship he wants to have with his family.  There's nothing wrong with suggesting it, but don't push it. 

    My H comes from a large immediate family; they're close but there tends to be quite a bit of fighting and drama among several of the siblings & adult kids on a regular level so H picks and chooses just how much time he wants to spend with them (usually holidays, birthdays & special occasions with an occasional "just because" dinner and/or visit).  My family has always been close and they very seldom argue, and I feel bad that we spend a lot more time with them because the last thing I want my ILs to think is that I'm the one keeping their brother/uncle away - but it's entirely his choice so I have to respect it.  I've suggested here and there that we spend more time with his clan but if he doesn't want to, I won't attempt to force him.

    BTW....what part of Michigan???

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  • For the most part I agree that you shouldn't try to force something and should definitely let your BF take the lead on this.  However, you said that he doesn't want to be close to them until you start a family.  I would ask him about that.  When you're adjusting to becoming parents might not be the best time to be all, "Okay, I'm done being distant - let's be close now."  Kids might be a nice buffer - but if he's willing to do it later - why wouldn't he want to lay the groundwork now?  I could see not wanting to do it at all - but I'd want an explanation about why he wants to put it off.  And then you just have to accept what he says.  it is his family after all.

     AND - if you it's important to be close to your significant other's family - then it might be time to evaluate whether or not he is the right SO for you. 

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  • He sounds like a douche.

     

    But seriously - my inlaws kiss each other on the lips.  I get creeped out by the very thought of kissing someone other than DH/hot celebrity on the lips, especially my inlaws.  I sure am not going to start kissing family members on the lips just because it's something my inlaws do.

  • lol at 'moments of maturity'. Grown men should have years of maturity; and maybe a few moments of immaturity.

    Good luck!!! Don't say you didn't have any warning; and don't say no one ever told you .

     

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  • Thanks for everyone's input on this topic.  We would have been moving to the Portage area, but turns out we got an unexpected offer to go to Indianapolis and we're taking it.  Sorry for my absence, my family has recently had an unexpected death and we've been really busy with that.  I just got back from the funeral and have had a moment to myself.

     

    I have decided to not press the subject of spending more time with his family, and will let him take the lead.  Although I would like to develop a relationship with his parents and/or siblings, I can and will respect his wishes.  Again, thank you to everyone for the two cents and advise.  

  • imageRebSid77:
    I think it is his family and he should be able to decide what kind of relationship he has with them. I don't have the closest relationship with my family and I would really resent it if my FI was constantly pressuring me to be closer to them.

    This.  DH is really close to his parents and his five brothers.  My relationship with my parents and sisters is really rocky; I have very little desire to work on being closer to them.  DH is very understanding of this, and supports my decision to distance myself from my family.  It'd make things a lot harder on our relationship if he wasn't supportive.

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