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LOL - The Amish Don?t Get Autism? And They Don?t Get Vaccinations ? Possible Link?

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People outside the alternative health community are often confused by the lack of autism in the Amish people.  The Amish do not experience autism, or any of the other learning disabilities that plague our technological society.  The Amish live in a society that consists of outdated technologies and ideals, by contemporary standards.  Their diet consists of eating organic, fresh, locally-grown produce, and of , they do not follow the established vaccination routines.  To the dismay of the mainstream media and the medical establishment, this has resulted in a ier people, that are void of all of our chronic diseases.  Heart disease, cancer, and diabetes are virtually non-existent in Amish villages.  Equally non-existent are modern, chemically-engineered medicines, enhanced (chemically-engineered) foods, G.M.O. foods, and of course, vaccines.  How is it that those who are without the ?miracles? of modern orthodox medicine are healthier?  The truth about health, medicine, and how they both relate to the Amish is becoming an embarrassment to some rather powerful people.

There have been 3 (yes three) verified cases of autism in the Amish, and at least two of those children were vaccinated.  No information is available for the third.  The strong correlation between vaccinations and autism is absolutely undeniable, unless you work for the medical establishment, the government, or Big Media.  Proponents of the status-quo claim that the Amish obviously have a special super gene that makes them immune to autism.  They pathetically try to rationalize that autism is some type of genetic failure (i.e. God?s fault), which attacks a brain based on religious affiliation.  We?re tentatively expecting a space alien theory next, in a similar vein to the aliens theory used to attack those who believe in a Creator.  This is truly is F.D.A. and A.M.A. science in all its shining glory.  Vaccine proponents are willing to espouse any ridiculous explanation, so long as they do not have to accept that their entire industry of vaccinations is causing chronic disease, leaving autism for 1 in every 100 children now.

When the Amish are simply left alone, to live free of chemical toxins found in our medicines and foods, they are not plagued with diseases, learning disabilities, or autism.  They are categorically more intelligent, with the exception of advanced (college-level) writing skills, which is explainable by the fact that English is not their primary language.  Could it be those same Amish ?super genes? at work again?  Society could learn greatly from their example, if we would only stop poisoning ourselves, and our children on a routine basis.

 

A big old middle finger to you, stupid Nest.
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  • Or, y'know, they simply don't have their children evaluated and therefore there is no label for those children.
    A big old middle finger to you, stupid Nest.
  • I call bullshiits on that. What was that show on teens who'd left the Amish and were getting married versus ones who stayed? Do anyone SEE some of those kids there??

    Tongue Tied 

     

    ETA: and yes, Amish do vaccinate. 

  • imagepixy_stix:
    Or, y'know, they simply don't have their children evaluated and therefore there is no label for those children.

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  • There have been 3 (yes three) verified cases of autism in the Amish, and at least two of those children were vaccinated.  No information is available for the third.  The strong correlation between vaccinations and autism is absolutely undeniable...

    So, all other things are exactly equal between these three children and the rest of the Amish kids? I find this hard to believe. Pixy's theory seems much more likely.

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  • imagepixy_stix:

     Heart disease, cancer, and diabetes are virtually non-existent in Amish villages.  

    They are categorically more intelligent, with the exception of advanced (college-level) writing skills, which is explainable by the fact that English is not their primary language. 

    Both of these make me lol.  Hard.

    I want to see sources.

    Also,  I'm curious what their average lifespan is.   

  • or perhaps things like electronics cause it... or plastics...and they aren't exposed to those much at all.

    and yeah - not evaluating for it also = not getting a dx for it.

    i think it's silly to point the finger at vaccines b/c of this.

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  • They generally avoid regular medical care and autopsies. We have no real idea what they do or do not have because they aren't checked by medical professionals. There may well be lower incidence of autism, diabetes, etc. but without being followed by a doctor or other health professional we have no evidence of that.

    Though I do think eating fresh/organic/unprocessed is probably a healthier choice this article is making statements without real data to back them up.

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  • imagewawajeanne:

    Both of these make me lol.  Hard.

    The whole "article" makes me laugh.

    A big old middle finger to you, stupid Nest.
  • imagemajorwife:
    the amish don't speak english?

    Most can but they typically speak German as their first language and only use English outside the community. 

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  • Its like this was written by someone who's never seen an Amish person, but tried to figure out what their entire society was like based on a sole piece of information. They don't have college level writing skills? Must be the German. Not that they don't generally educate past 8th grade.
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    or perhaps things like electronics cause it... or plastics...and they aren't exposed to those much at all.

    and yeah - not evaluating for it also = not getting a dx for it.

    i think it's silly to point the finger at vaccines b/c of this.

    agreed.  Even if the Amish truly don't have the same occurance rates of autism (though I won't believe that until they start getting their kids medical treatment and evaluation at the same rates as other kids) it's just as likely to be their decreased exposure to HFCS, electro-magnetic fields, pesticides, plastic or nonstick cookware.  (none of which I think cause autism...but hell, it could be a whole host of things, or a compbination of things and there is a LOT that the amish aren't exposed to in the same levels as the rest of us)

    Or maybe raw milk, shoofly pies and cow farts are anti-autism treatments.  Who the fluck knows.

  • imagewawajeanne:
    imagepixy_stix:

     Heart disease, cancer, and diabetes are virtually non-existent in Amish villages.  

    They are categorically more intelligent, with the exception of advanced (college-level) writing skills, which is explainable by the fact that English is not their primary language. 

    Both of these make me lol.  Hard.

    I want to see sources.

    Also,  I'm curious what their average lifespan is.   

    ditto. I want to see their stats of how often they just collapse in the fields and die.

     

  • imagedoctorwho:
    Its like this was written by someone who's never seen an Amish person, but tried to figure out what their entire society was like based on a sole piece of information. They don't have college level writing skills? Must be the German. Not that they don't generally educate past 8th grade.

    no, no DrWho, they're SMARTER than us.  can't you read? 

  • No diseases existed before processed foods - FACT!

     

  • imagewawajeanne:
    imageUsedToBeGoldie:

    or perhaps things like electronics cause it... or plastics...and they aren't exposed to those much at all.

    and yeah - not evaluating for it also = not getting a dx for it.

    i think it's silly to point the finger at vaccines b/c of this.

    agreed.  Even if the Amish truly don't have the same occurance rates of autism (though I won't believe that until they start getting their kids medical treatment and evaluation at the same rates as other kids) it's just as likely to be their decreased exposure to HFCS, electro-magnetic fields, pesticides, plastic or nonstick cookware.  (none of which I think cause autism...but hell, it could be a whole host of things, or a compbination of things and there is a LOT that the amish aren't exposed to in the same levels as the rest of us)

    Or maybe raw milk, shoofly pies and cow farts are anti-autism treatments.  Who the fluck knows.

    i think i know why NO ONE in my family got dx w/ autism .. lord knows we LOVE LOVE LOVE (pph) shoo fly pie

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  • Has anyone brought up the fact that Amish are also an excellent fount for genetics research because of the abnormally high rate of genetically acquired disorders?  They're "reproductively isolated" (i.e. more inbred than the average American) and hence, more likely to have the opportunity to have kids who are homozygous for various genetic mutations.

    gosh, I WONDER if their genetic homogeneity also accounts for a perceived reduction in autism?  

    And also - Sugr is spot on.  Combined with the series Momi posted last week in the LA Times about the explosion of autism diagnosis in the mainstream (many of which are probably not "real" diagnoses) and a simple lack of exposure of the Amish to western docs - nothing about this is surprising and frankly, none of the observations need to invoke vaccines, electronics, BPA, HFCS, MSG or any other acronyms or initials apart from A,T,G or C.

     

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  • I have two chiropractor friends on Facebook and a while ago one posted some article on vaccinations = more autoimmune diseases. In the article there was mention of autism occuring in the Amish community. A couple days ago the other friend posted this article. I tried to find the article the other posted to post in response to hers but it was deleted from her page.
     
    I totally agree that if we evaluted everyone in the Amish community we would find more than the three cases mentioned here
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    imagewawajeanne:
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    or perhaps things like electronics cause it... or plastics...and they aren't exposed to those much at all.

    and yeah - not evaluating for it also = not getting a dx for it.

    i think it's silly to point the finger at vaccines b/c of this.

    agreed.  Even if the Amish truly don't have the same occurance rates of autism (though I won't believe that until they start getting their kids medical treatment and evaluation at the same rates as other kids) it's just as likely to be their decreased exposure to HFCS, electro-magnetic fields, pesticides, plastic or nonstick cookware.  (none of which I think cause autism...but hell, it could be a whole host of things, or a compbination of things and there is a LOT that the amish aren't exposed to in the same levels as the rest of us)

    Or maybe raw milk, shoofly pies and cow farts are anti-autism treatments.  Who the fluck knows.

    i think i know why NO ONE in my family got dx w/ autism .. lord knows we LOVE LOVE LOVE (pph) shoo fly pie

    and I love cow farts - whew... I don't have it... but my nephew and dad do not like cow farts, so i guess that is why they are on the spectrum. Damn it.

    Being surrounded by money cures aids... so maybe bein surrounded by that stuff is the cure (my south park fans understand)

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    Or maybe raw milk, shoofly pies and cow farts are anti-autism treatments.  Who the fluck knows.

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  • Also, I call BS on the lower incidence of type II diabetes. I'm originally from Amishland (aka Manheim, PA) and mostly all the Amish sell, besides veggies, are delicious deserts and baked goods. If I ate like that, if be a type II just like most of my older relatives... Most of whom come from the same ancestry as the Amish. 
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    imagemajorwife:
    the amish don't speak english?

    Most can but they typically speak German as their first language and only use English outside the community. 

    Technically Pennsylvania Dutch, which is a German dialect. Probably could be understood by Germans. though. Anyway, they call outsiders, "the English" because we speak English.

    Anyway, my mom used to work in early intervention and she evaluated several children who were Mennonite (and spoke Pennsylvania Dutch as a first language), but that might just be that particular culture/the norm in the area in which my mom lives. Because I *think* the Mennonites near my mom are mainstreamed into public schools if they aren't homeschooled. The Amish are not, and if their teachers are Amish, which I suspect, then there is little reason they'd be recommended to "outsiders" as having developmental delays. So yeah, team Pixy.

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  • imagepixy_stix:
    Or, y'know, they simply don't have their children evaluated and therefore there is no label for those children.

    Um, yeah. How often to the Amish go to a doctor?

  • They probably have a higher rate of buggy deaths, though.  

    Eating organic will probably end up killing you by buggy.  Yay for correlations! 

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  • imagewawajeanne:
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    Or maybe raw milk, shoofly pies and cow farts are anti-autism treatments.  Who the fluck knows.

     

    Someone get on this research study!  Big Smile

  • imagemsmerymac:
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    imagemajorwife:
    the amish don't speak english?

    Most can but they typically speak German as their first language and only use English outside the community. 

    Technically Pennsylvania Dutch, which is a German dialect. Probably could be understood by Germans. though. Anyway, they call outsiders, "the English" because we speak English.

    Anyway, my mom used to work in early intervention and she evaluated several children who were Mennonite (and spoke Pennsylvania Dutch as a first language), but that might just be that particular culture/the norm in the area in which my mom lives. Because I *think* the Mennonites near my mom are mainstreamed into public schools if they aren't homeschooled. The Amish are not, and if their teachers are Amish, which I suspect, then there is little reason they'd be recommended to "outsiders" as having developmental delays. So yeah, team Pixy.

    You're right, I just usually hear it referred to as German. 

    They are taught by Amish teachers so no referrals. Mennonites tend to mix with the world more including school. 

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  • imagewawajeanne:

    Or maybe raw milk, shoofly pies and cow farts are anti-autism treatments.  Who the fluck knows.

    Yes!  My children have to be safe then :)

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  • Maybe we're all looking at this wrong.  Perhaps the reason we have more cases of autism than the Amish isn't from what we're doing- it's from what we're not doing- manual labor.  Hmmmm, I wonder which celebrity can help endorse this new proven fact, er I mean theory?

     

  • You know what else you never see in the Amish community? Black people. Vaccinations must make people black.

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  • Idiocy. If I was in an Amish community I'm sure I wouldn't realize my kid has autism. Even as an educated person, it took me awhile to consider the possibility because my notion of autism was very outdated. Without community resources and a bevy of doctors, we wouldn't know what we know.
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  • imagetartaruga:

    You know what else you never see in the Amish community? Black people. Vaccinations must make people black.

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    FACT. 

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