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Re: Jessica Simpson is why I can never have children
No one has declared Jessica Simpson's career over, not in this thread and not even in celeb blogs discussing her weight gain.
She has a career because people discuss her personal life, a huge part of it involving getting knocked up by a dude who left college so she could pay him to be her professional purse holding. The fact of the matter is that discussing her weight gain is feeding her career. It's something of a catch 22 actually. Many of these celebrities discuss their weight gain/loss, pregnancies, how hard things are for them because it prolongs their career and puts them in the spotlight.
Feel bad for Jessica Simpson because people talk about her weight. Just know that homegirl would be broke if people didn't. That's pretty much the only difference between her and Mandy Moore.
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To be fair, the OP didn't talk about her fashion choices in the original post at all. She said she didn't want to get pregnant, because being the same height as JSimp, she'd probably look "just as ridiculous." Which says nothing about fashion, but does say something about her size.
Updated September 2012.
FWIW, I'm not ragging on Jessica Simpson for being unhealthy. While I suspect she probably isn't and probably wasn't before she was pregnant, I have no real clue.
All I'm saying is that she's fat and wasn't before. Whether is the buttered pop tarts or while eating lean fish and broccoli is irrelevant. I'm not even ragging on her being fat, just making a statement.
I'm less concerned with the trumped up war on women ish than I am with this constant insistance that fat is an insult and not an adjective. I think it contributes to the overall problem with obesity. Combine this with the mindset that 60lb+ weight gain is average and cool and okay because you're pregnant and it's no wonder we have an issue.
That being said, I'm really annoyed with Weight Watchers and all the food obsession. It seems we can't seem to meet a middle ground here. We seemingly can't admit we're fat but we also can't get rid of our obsession to be thin. I'm not really sure what I'm trying to say. I guess that I'm annoyed in general that we value looks over health but not even for one to contribute to the other in a way that makes us all healthier.
So instead of talking about how much weight is healthy to gain, how one can control it, etc, we're going to deny that Jessica Simpson is fat and say it's mean to women to even think she is.
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DD #1 passed away in January 2011 at 14 days old due to congenital heart disease
DD#2 lost in January 2012 at 23 weeks due to anhydramnios caused by a placental abruption
Eh, she's a public figure who is selling products - fashion and weight loss.
She discusses her weight gain and food choices. She puts herself out there wide open to scrutiny.
Like PP's have said, for the most part while 60 lbs weight gain may be common it doesn't mean it's healthy or recommended or even pre-destined. While I was only commenting in the early parts of this thread on her shitteous fashion choices (which I think she's ALWAYS had since she became famous), I don't think there's anything wrong with saying that a weight gain like that is probably not something pregnant women should strive for. I do know doctors who try to encourage a limited weight gain and I know plenty of women who have been told to slow it down.
I also think that while we can't help how our bodies gain weight while pregnant, we can 100% totally control what we put in our mouths. Just because we have cravings doesn't mean we have to indulge them. I craved beer. Did I go out and drink it every day? Um, no.
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Mine was this way, too. I'm a bit boggled that there are doctors that don't discuss this with their patients (healthy vs. unhealthy gain).
ETA: I was told the top of the weight gain they wanted to see from me was 25 lbs. I went over, and had a serious talking to from the OB.
a) Fat is an insult in a society in which, unfortunately but realistically, women are still judged in large part by physical attractiveness. Solving this doesn't involve making "fat" less insulting but by making the currency of weight and looks less valuable.
b) Nobody every said 60 pounds was "cool"; nor did they say "average." But it happens, and because it happens or however it happens, that weight gain doesn't make one unhealthy or gluttonous or anything else, just because a tabloid magazine says it does. It may be unhealthy gain; it may not, depending on a huge number of factors, none of which we're privy to.
c) I will talk about how much weight is healthy to gain and how to control it when people stop thinking that because they saw the latest issue of US Weekly, they can speak with authority about the health of the weight gain of a celebrity during her pregnancy.
Updated September 2012.
This is loltastic.
We discussed weight gain early on in my pregnancy -- and then I developed high blood pressure and retained about 20 pounds of water weight and they were too busy trying to keep me from stroking out before my due date to worry much about "healthy" versus "unhealthy" gain at that point.
Updated September 2012.
If she wasn't lined up with a massive contract to sell a weight loss product before that kid even pops out of her vag, I might agree with you.
But guess what, people will buy that product based on her. They will. If they weren't going to, WW wouldn't use her. She's being paid to put herself out there a personal testimonial for how much weight you can gain AND lose during and after pregnancy.
Pretty much all she is known for is being in the spotlight and having people comment about her fashion, weight, love life etc so I don't think it's that weird/out of line that people are commenting on it here. Also, she's the one who was commenting on gaining 60 pounds, and eating a bunch of sh!t.
If she hadn't said any of that and people were being all ZOMG she's so fat and unhealthy I would have more of a problem because everyone carries differently and I looked pretty big (carried out front and high) but only gained 30 pounds. Other people look smaller and have gained a crapton of weight. Everyone is different.
That being said, she has purposefully put herself in the public eye and publicized her weight, pregnancy, life etc so I don't get why everyone is all up in arms that she is getting commented on being huge.
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It's a miracle I loss my baby weight considering how much crap I ate after I popped this kid. Shiit, I ate two lunches and a hostess lemon pie within two hours of having this kid complete with two rolls, two cookies, and four cartons of juice.
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Since when did we need to be experts about a subject before talking about it on this board? General, substantiated, knowledge has always been enough. I could go out and find the sources talking about pregnancy and healthy vs. unhealthy weight gain, and also the information that was passed to me from my own doctors.
In fact:
Mayo Clinic
Web MD
Institute of Medicine revised recommended weight gain
Absent other factors, yes; but you don't know what those other factors may be. Every pregnancy is different.
I just think it's kind of funny to claim to be talking about her health, when nobody knows anything about her health other than what's in the tabloids.
Does this mean I can now start calling random people fat? It's not insulting, right? Clearly they're all unhealthy, because they're outside of the BMI scale of normal weight range.
Updated September 2012.
This reminds me of a conversation I once had about the word "slut." One response was, "But... some people ARE sluts!"
I get the same feeling here. Some people are trying to discuss issues in society revolving around women and weight-judgement and other people are saying, "But... Jessica Simpson IS fat!"
That's not the point half the people here are talking about.
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The other half are saying her dress looks like it's going to eat her. Blue, ruffly snakeskin.
Really, she looks normal to me. I just like arguing against the "can't call a pregnant woman fat" police.
Not to mention that weight is just one of the risk factors for GD. Maternal age, ethnicity and a family history of diabetes all play substantial roles. I had a triple whammy stacked against me before I gained a single pregnancy pound.
Not to mention that GD isn't about weight anyway. You either have it or you don't. The diet isn't meant to keep you thin. It's meant to keep your blood sugar under control. And the worry isn't that your baby will be heavier but that its body will get bigger and be more difficult to give birth to.
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This thread has taught me things:
Commenting on someones weight apparently should be a-ok.
Walking is not exercise
JS should be mocked weekly
It is only a WoW when an R does it.
Again, this is some shiit.
So there arent any non-Rs here that have a problem with how JS is being described here?
I've heard of docs mentioning weight! As they should. It could be a health issue. I've had several friends who gained over 60 pounds and were called out by their doctors.
My doc said something because I gained 4 pounds in a week. He was concerned....as he should be. Good doctors SHOULD comment on weight gains if they are extreme. Turns out it was a fluke (probably a combo of it being later in the day than normal and the clothes I was wearing) because I was down the next week.
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I 100% count walking as exercise especially during pregnancy.
Everytime I go on a brisk walk I pull every goddamn muscle in my crotch and inner thigh area. If that isn't a sign of a work out I just don't know what is. Pregnancy is so weird.
No idea as it is not what my comment stated.
But, but... That can't be! A sweeping statement was made! Something isn't right here. I'm so confused!
My bad, Tef. I was reading from my iPad.
Hey, mistakes happen..figured I would just point it out since, you know, generalizations are a concern, I didn't want my tic comment to be restated incorrectly. Plus, the WoW is more than just "having a problem", IMO, hence my response.