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Re: Flame me
Well pin a rose on your nose.
Please tell me what research you have conducted regarding women who have had abortions and their laziness
Other than that, you've spouted your opinions, which really do not warrant a response.
I got As on all my spelling tests.
"That chick wins at Penises, for sure." -- Fenton
If I were talking and not posting I might consider it. However...
It's the way I've seen it. Couples try for years to adopt and they're denied. Homes are overpopulated with children that were given up or taken from their homes. Why bring another child into that?
In 5th grade, I was Mrs. Fox in Fantastic Mr. Fox. I knew aaalllll my lines.
Yes, please, let's make this a pissing contest about our educational achievements. If you have an MBA, you can't possibly be ignorant or obtuse.
You guys, surely it's better for an innocent child to be born to someone who makes it feel unwanted or unloved for the rest of its life. Every woman always loves her baby the minute she sees it, which is something no one understands until they are a mother. Also, it's just so easy to carry a baby for nine months and then give it up for adoption. Pregnancy has no unpleasant side effects and presents no health risks for the mother. That's all this loon is trying to say.
Today I learned that ignorantfuks can recieve a BA from Brown and an MBA from Cornell
I'll give you a million Nest dollars if you tell the Adoption board that they're all buying babies.
"That chick wins at Penises, for sure." -- Fenton
Not to mention the LLPOF from Fallin U.
Cornell OR U of M. She isn't sure. Or ... sure.
Wow. You sure are bright. Can you explain the European debt crisis to me next?
Gosh. I'm so glad to finally learn that I was born to a mother who didn't want me and purchased by the parents that raised me. Too bad I didn't learn that when I was earning my BA and JD, I probably could have saved some money to buy a baby in the future.
Did the people who bought you cut the tags off right away? Or did they wait a bit to make sure they didn't want to return/exchange you for a different size baby?
"That chick wins at Penises, for sure." -- Fenton
They had to pay in installments. I wasn't officially purchased until 6 months after they started raising me, so I think the tags were still on.
Updated September 2012.
This. I work with juvenile delinquents and children who are the victims of abuse. Until you see firsthand what the effects of being unwanted or unplanned are for some kids you really make huge assumptions.
Im not inclined to fully engage and probably won't answer your responses because I think you're that naive...seems like a waste of energy.
ETA I have a jd from a better school than U of M. Do I win yet? The level of hypocrisy and elite assholism in your post is impressive. Most peoe who consider or have abortions are low income and low levels of education but clearly they should defer to ms. MBA on the financial consequences and emotional consequences of having a baby cuz you totally know what their lives are like.
Zombroni I cannot let pass, where the h*ll have you seen an orphanage in the united states in the past twenty years? Most kids who grow up in group homes are forced parental rights termination cases or have serious issues adoptive parents don't want. Essbe is spot on, people want infants and mostly white ones.
As far as not making enough money to "buy" a baby goes, it cost my mom more to carry and birth me than it did for my parents to adopt my brother. I also don't know any family that tried to adopted and wasn't eventually successful. The problem is, everyone wants to carry their own baby and everyone tells them adoption is too hard and expensive, even though it's probably cheaper than infertility treatment.
People also want Asian babies. I know so many adopted Asians.
OP, surely you are smart enough to understand that the subject of abortion, and the broad and varying circumstances surrounding it, are so much more complex than what you have described it as here. That is why people are responding negatively to you.
Let me guarantee you that not too many (if any) people here are angry with you because you disagree with abortion. It is because, just like most people do in debates like this, you are presenting your position in a completely one sided, oversimplified way, and it's insulting. People find it insulting when you speak as if you know them, know their lives and their circumstances, know what's best for them, and know what's best for all women/people in this situation.
If you are truly interested in engaging in an intelligent dialogue about this, I'd suggest you spend a little more time thinking about how to approach it in a way that displays understanding, sensitivity, and respect for the complexity of the issue. If you are only interested in butting heads with people and getting their guards up, then keep doing what you're doing.
OP, I would go to the colleges you've received degrees from and demand your money back. How is it that you've allegedly done so much fancy book-learnin' ... yet you clearly have no idea what being pro-choice actually means?
I'm more than willing to start validating people's ideas when they start having ideas worth validating
I don't even mind when people act like they think they know what's best for other people or are pushy or aren't all open-arms about welcoming fuzzy wuzzy debate, as long as they mostly know what they're talking about. I mind when spoiled, sheltered people who have had relatively cushy lives with supportive, loving family and friends and a whole lot of good luck try to talk about solutions to social problems in the scope of the bubble they live in. If you don't acknowledge that lack of access to abortion will lead to more children living with mothers that don't want them, more kids in the foster care system, more physical abuse, more sexual abuse, more drug abuse, more welfare money and other social services needed, and more tax dollars spent on investigating, prosecuting, and incarcerating women who obtain abortions and any doctors that help them, then you are ignorant and not dealing with reality and not worthy of a response.
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I'm gonna have to agree with Lipski's opinion, somewhat. However the semantics are off.
I'm pro-life, personally, but I don't judge those who are pro-choice or who have had an abortion. It's just my stance, I'd prefer that people didn't kill unborn babies. But I'm not gonna go protesting against it and making people feel horrible about themselves.
What makes me angry is that there are so many different methods of birth control, and so many idiots out there that are too lazy and stupid to use them. Then some of them abort the baby and whine the rest of their life about how it was so hard for them to make that decision and they're gonna be sad forever because of it. More people need to be responsible and use birth control. It's readily available to women. If you're going to have sex and you're too lazy to protect yourself, be prepared to live with your decisions no matter what you choose.
There are, of course, cases of rape. In which of course the mother shouldn't have to take care of some random attacker's baby. But anyone can claim rape, so therefore everyone gets the right to abort. And therefore I don't judge anyone because who knows what the truth is.
I think what Lipski is saying is that she can't stand when people don't bother to try to prevent pregnancy and whine about how their life is so horrible because they "had to" abort the baby.
As for someone who posted about people only wanting to adopt white, healthy babies: That's just because white people are more likely to adopt, statistically speaking.
White people are statistically more likely to want children much later in life than other races. (Many of them wait way too long and then suddenly wanna have kids in their late 30's and 40's and then realize they can't.) They want a child who looks similar to them. White, healthy babies are very rare and difficult to find, which is very unfortunate for those wanting to adopt.
Otherwise, if they're walking around with a child of a different race than their own, ignorant idiots are going to assume that Mrs. White had sex with a black man and had a baby, and Mr. White decided to marry her and raise the child as his own. Too much judgement in the world, that's just the way most people are.
Also, who doesn't want their child to be healthy? Adopted or not? Enough said.
I can't resist a debate. :P
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