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What would you do?

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Re: What would you do?

  • image3sthecharm:
    My 3 year old "mooned" the neighbor Saturday (thank goodness he stillhad underwear on). Right before we were supposed to go to their house for a birthday p. And I can assure you no one I know has ever "mooned:anyone, much less in front of my kid. I do realize kids can be well, kids,

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  • I think it was fine to go over and ask her if she wanted some help. That doesn't come off as judgy to me and actually nice instead. Sometimes we parents do need an extra hand. :-)

     I would not have pursued it any further though from your description. Like others have said, especially if this child was in the 2-3 range, she very well could have been putting on the dramatics. And although I am not a spanker I have no issue with others doing it especially how you described it.

  • My kids were acting up in Target once to the point where I would have been ready to sell them both to a passing caravan of gypsies... and then after ringing up my whole order, the cashier informed me that my card was declined (I'd also made a purchase at the Target cafe and the Target pharmacy where it had been accepted, but apparently 3 purchases in the same store was some 'sign' to the bank that fraud was afoot, and they froze the card, forcing me to leave all of my groceries there). My daughter threw a tantrum because we had to leave the store without the stuff she wanted, and I momentarily lost my temper yelled at her to be quiet. In public. While both of my kids were screaming.

    Some random woman FOLLOWED ME INTO THE PARKING LOT asking me dumbass questions about where some other store was and a  bunch of sh*t I didn't care to discuss until I realized that she thought I was some psycho abusive parent. My kids are screaming the whole time, and this woman is practically running after me asking me about where the nearest Sally Beauty Supply is. I turned around and told her that my kids were having a tantrum, and she needed to back the hell off before I called for security. 

    I think it's great that people want to intervene when they think someone might be harming a child, but there are way too many people who also think nothing of stepping over the line and getting in someone's face when there's not a problem. Kids freak out in public. It sucks. But I don't think it's a reason to approach people you don't know.

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    imageSisugal:
    ---And the mom probably wonders where her child learned to be violent.

    Because all kids who bite or hit come from violent households.

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  • imageMrsDL:

    imageSisugal:
    ---And the mom probably wonders where her child learned to be violent.

    Because all kids who bite or hit come from violent households.

    IDK about you, but biting is a crucial part of my ten part disciplinary plan. lol

    For serious, I realize that yes, children mimic certain behaviors but it's also true that children hit and bite out of frustration and often do so even no one has ever behaved that way with them or around them.



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  • imageMrsDL:

    imageSisugal:
    ---And the mom probably wonders where her child learned to be violent.

    Because all kids who bite or hit come from violent households.

    *giggles* Why yes! Nae only knows to hit her sister in the head with a Wii controller because I beat T in the head with a Wii controller all day long! Weeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!! 

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  • How far was the drop? I assumed it was more than a normal flopping kid pulling away and falling as a result.
  • imagehindsight's_a_biotch:
    Dude, I don't know about the rest of you, but damned if my kids didn't have a habit of dropping themself down or flopping on the ground like I'd dropped them there on purpose, especially in public.

    Yep.  Plus, these days any time DD stubs her toe, bangs her knee, trips, etc., she says, "Mummy, you hurt me!".  I've lost count of the number of side eyes I've received.  

    I cringe when I see parents physically disciplining their kids.  I don't agree with it, but I've yet to see it to the point where it deems intervention. 

     

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    imageMrsDL:

    imageSisugal:
    ---And the mom probably wonders where her child learned to be violent.

    Because all kids who bite or hit come from violent households.

    *giggles* Why yes! Nae only knows to hit her sister in the head with a Wii controller because I beat T in the head with a Wii controller all day long! Weeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!! 

    I've never raised a finger to my child or even raised my voice (because that testing will likely come this year), but as soon as he got his first two teeth - bam - he turns into Chucky every now and again. He tries to bite me while he's nursing in particular - and he does it on purpose. Lets out little giggles and goes to do it very slowly while watching me and grinning the whole time. I say "no" calmly with a straight face, and he goes in for the quick chomp and cracks up. I sure as hell know he didn't get it from us being violent.

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  • Z has hit what people call the terrible twos. I just want to thank everyone in this thread for telling thier stories. I have been waiting for my kids eyes to roll back in his head and his head to spin like he was possessed. Good thing he is just like every other kid.

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  • imageflygirl18:
    How far was the drop? I assumed it was more than a normal flopping kid pulling away and falling as a result.
    The woman was probably 5 foot 9+ inches and she dropped the kid from standing level, ie mom didnt even bend down.
  • I probably wouldn't have done anything. I don't spank, but I have had a few less than stellar moments with my 3 year old in public lately that probably would make strangers who don't know me clutch their pearls. My 3 year old loves to do the floppy legs thing lately, so yeah.
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  • imageswimbikepuke:
    image3sthecharm:

    She chuckled and said no she was fine that the little girl had just biten her brother and it was the fourth time today she had "done something violent to her brother?" ??? The little girl did not have any visible bruises or marks/injuries I could see and she was dressed in really short shorts and short sleeve shirt. The boy looked fine.


    Also not raising an eyebrow at this.  This morning before I left the house at 8:30, PTS kicked over a pile of clean folded clothes that DH had put on the floor by his closet, hit DH in the head and kicked at him because he told her she could not watch the Muppet movie until after she got dressed, tried to close the baby gate on me so that I couldn't get up the stairs, and threw a box of Capri-Suns across the kitchen.  Did I mention this was all before 8:30 a.m.  Some mornings are bad.  Sometimes they wake up as Linda Blaire instead of Shirley Temple.

     

    I'm firmly team SBP and HAB. DS and DD can play so sweetly together and then 5 seconds later it is like a cagematch. I can't tell you the number of times that they will get a time-out for hitting/biting/hair pulling and IMMEDIATELY upon getting out of time-out run back over and do the exact same thing again. And being out in public just makes it worse, especially when I have the kids by myself.

    And the above made me laugh b/c I was just thinking about how I needed an exorcist two nights ago when DD was in a 40 min long, kicking, hitting, screaming tantrum b/c she didn't want to go to bed.

  • imageswimbikepuke:

    The other day she yelled at me, "YOU ARE NOT MY BEST FRIEND."  I just responded, "Well, at least I'm doing something right." 

    Yesterday Ben told me that he wished he had a nice mommy.  Because I wouldn't let him listen to Kid Bopz for the eleventy billionth time. 
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  • imageswimbikepuke:
    imagebootsie08:

    imagehindsight's_a_biotch:
    Dude, I don't know about the rest of you, but damned if my kids didn't have a habit of dropping themself down or flopping on the ground like I'd dropped them there on purpose, especially in public.

    Yep.  Plus, these days any time DD stubs her toe, bangs her knee, trips, etc., she says, "Mummy, you hurt me!".  I've lost count of the number of side eyes I've received.  

    I cringe when I see parents physically disciplining their kids.  I don't agree with it, but I've yet to see it to the point where it deems intervention. 

     

    PTS hasn't learned this trick yet. Though she's lately taken to recycling playground jabs.  This is an improvement over her hurling Princess Movie insults: YOU ARE MELISSA (because she can't say "maleficent.")

    The other day she yelled at me, "YOU ARE NOT MY BEST FRIEND."  I just responded, "Well, at least I'm doing something right." 

    Hee!! I get that too...I say "I'm not trying to be!"  One of my DD's favorites is "well, you aren't going to Disney".   She likes to say that to anyone (me, her Grammy and aunts) who doesn't give in to what she wants...like she's going to get to go to Disney herself.

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  • I always respond to the BFF comment by saying, "I'm not supposed to be your best friend, I'm supposed to be your mom"
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  • imageSisugal:
    ---And the mom probably wonders where her child learned to be violent.

    I don't wonder, I know. Damn daycare. That's also where she learned how to yell, "NO! MINE!"

    A big old middle finger to you, stupid Nest.
  • imagemlwooten:
    I always respond to the BFF comment by saying, "I'm not supposed to be your best friend, I'm supposed to be your mom"
    I have said that exact thing to my oldest daughter!
  • imagecvillebetrothed:

    i am relieved to learn that my child isn't the only one who fakes an injury like a champions league football player.

    her new thing is to pretend to fall then fake cry and say "you pushed me mommy!"

    w.t.f.

    The other day I heard K start frantically whining from the playroom "stop hurting me, brother, owww, stop it".  I peeked downstairs, and K is sitting all alone, big smirk on his face, going on and on about how that hurts, stop hitting, I'm telling mom, etc.  Brother is still playing wii in the living room (where he'd been for the past 20 minutes). 

    I also accidentally scratched him with my ring a few days ago, and now every time I even look sideways at him he's all "mommy, you just scratched me, that's mean". 

    WTF indeed.  

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  • imagehindsight's_a_biotch:
    Dude, I don't know about the rest of you, but damned if my kids didn't have a habit of dropping themself down or flopping on the ground like I'd dropped them there on purpose, especially in public.

    It is not uncommon at all for the to throw themselves on the floor, or twist away from me and fall.

    If she wasn't crying I would assume she wasn't hurt.  

    I would hate to see the hitting, but the dropping on the ground actually seems less concerning to me. 

  • 2 words:  Toddler Drop.

    all 3 of my kids can drop like a stone when they go dead weight on me.  once grace hit 2 years old i just let her go and land where she may. 

    as for the "i wonder where she learned to be violent" quip, i'm fairly certain jack's never seen me pin DH to the ground and ride him like a pony so where would he learn to do that to ben? 

    ETA: wow.  that last part doesn't sound at all the way i had intended it to sound.

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  • imagelaurenpetro:

    ETA: wow.  that last part doesn't sound at all the way i had intended it to sound.


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    A big old middle finger to you, stupid Nest.
  • imagelaurenpetro:

    2 words:  Toddler Drop.

    all 3 of my kids can drop like a stone when they go dead weight on me.  once grace hit 2 years old i just let her go and land where she may. 

    as for the "i wonder where she learned to be violent" quip, i'm fairly certain jack's never seen me pin DH to the ground and ride him like a pony so where would he learn to do that to ben? 

    ETA: wow.  that last part doesn't sound at all the way i had intended it to sound.

    Oh shiit.  That made me laugh out loud while kids are watching a video about a class' service project focusing on breast cancer awareness.  Sweet.

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  • imagecvillebetrothed:

    i am relieved to learn that my child isn't the only one who fakes an injury like a champions league football player.

    her new thing is to pretend to fall then fake cry and say "you pushed me mommy!"

    w.t.f.

    Gavin's favorite thing to say is "MOMMY DROPPED ABBY!!!!"

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  • image3sthecharm:
    imageflygirl18:
    How far was the drop? I assumed it was more than a normal flopping kid pulling away and falling as a result.
    The woman was probably 5 foot 9+ inches and she dropped the kid from standing level, ie mom didnt even bend down.
    That seems excessive to me. I can see if she was bending to put the child down and the kid went dead weight, but it sounds more like the mom just lost her cool and threw her out of the vehicle. I didn't necessarily take the non cry as sign she was ok either-it could happen a lot. Justifying by saying he bit the boy doesn't make it ok in my book.
  • image3sthecharm:

    I saw a mother pull a young girl about 2 years of age out of her carseat, swat her on the butt and then essentially drop her bottom first on to the asphalt parking lot. The girl wasnt really crying.

     

    I have never before intervened when I see a parent swat a kids on the rear because usually figure they are havoing a bad morning etc. Nor would I have said anything this time except for the drop to the asphalt. I walked over to the lady and asked if shed like me to push the kids in a cart for her while she shopped. She chuckled and said no she was fine that the little girl had just biten her brother and it was the fourth time today she had "done something violent to her brother?" ??? The little girl did not have any visible bruises or marks/injuries I could see and she was dressed in really short shorts and short sleeve shirt. The boy looked fine.

    I went on in to the store. As I was leaving I asked the cashier (who has been in that store for years) if shed ever seen mom be abusive to the kids etc. She said no, she strict but has never seen her be mean to the kids. I left it at that.

    Should I have done more? Or did I already cross a line by asking if I could help her? I felt bed about approaching her becuase weve all had those horrible toddler tantrum days but a little agaahst at how she dropped the kid. Also it wasnt just me, another shopper whos kid goes to scfhool with mine ran over to me to ask if Id seen what he saw.

    I understand your concern and I think your offer to help was kind.  I think the bold part is a little too far.  Honestly, unless that mother picked up her daughter and slammed her on the asphalt, it's hard to know what happened.

    My children are total noodles when they don't want to do something or are mad or having a tantrum. I've dropped DS because he suddenly went limp and fell on the ground (from a couple of feet up and hard.)  I felt like a total assholio.  

    I've also totally lost my sh!t when I've had enough from two kids screaming at each other constantly. I also have a four year old that doesn't like to listen and I find myself beyond frazzled when I've repeated for the 948th time to not do something.  I sometimes lose it in public. I'm not proud, but it happens. Sometimes you walk into a situation right in the middle and it's hard to be sure what's really happening.

     

  • I would have to be absolutely DEAD certain that what I saw was the mom drop the kid.  I am anti-swatting for me but if another parent chooses that route I don't judge.  But I know my kid is an expert at the toddler drop and he can make his 40 pouds feel like 400 pounds if he wants.  Sometimes I will step up and ask if I can hold something for someone or help in any way if it seems like a mom is having major issues with the kids.
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  • imageMrsAJL:
    image3sthecharm:

    I saw a mother pull a young girl about 2 years of age out of her carseat, swat her on the butt and then essentially drop her bottom first on to the asphalt parking lot. The girl wasnt really crying.

     

    I have never before intervened when I see a parent swat a kids on the rear because usually figure they are havoing a bad morning etc. Nor would I have said anything this time except for the drop to the asphalt. I walked over to the lady and asked if shed like me to push the kids in a cart for her while she shopped. She chuckled and said no she was fine that the little girl had just biten her brother and it was the fourth time today she had "done something violent to her brother?" ??? The little girl did not have any visible bruises or marks/injuries I could see and she was dressed in really short shorts and short sleeve shirt. The boy looked fine.

    I went on in to the store. As I was leaving I asked the cashier (who has been in that store for years) if shed ever seen mom be abusive to the kids etc. She said no, she strict but has never seen her be mean to the kids. I left it at that.

    Should I have done more? Or did I already cross a line by asking if I could help her? I felt bed about approaching her becuase weve all had those horrible toddler tantrum days but a little agaahst at how she dropped the kid. Also it wasnt just me, another shopper whos kid goes to scfhool with mine ran over to me to ask if Id seen what he saw.

    I understand your concern and I think your offer to help was kind.  I think the bold part is a little too far.  Honestly, unless that mother picked up her daughter and slammed her on the asphalt, it's hard to know what happened.

    I wanted to comment on this earlier but I needed to take DD to school.  This really bothers me, too.  I think you definitely crossed the line here.  You've put it in the cashier's head that a customer is possibly abusive (your words) and who knows where it could go from there.  What if the cashier knows the woman's name and mentions the conversation to other employees or customers?

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  • imagelaurenpetro:

    2 words:  Toddler Drop.

    all 3 of my kids can drop like a stone when they go dead weight on me.  once grace hit 2 years old i just let her go and land where she may. 

    as for the "i wonder where she learned to be violent" quip, i'm fairly certain jack's never seen me pin DH to the ground and ride him like a pony so where would he learn to do that to ben? 

    ETA: wow.  that last part doesn't sound at all the way i had intended it to sound.

    Sure Lauren, sure.

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  • imageMrsDL:

    He tries to bite me while he's nursing in particular - and he does it on purpose. Lets out little giggles and goes to do it very slowly while watching me and grinning the whole time. I say "no" calmly with a straight face, and he goes in for the quick chomp and cracks up. I sure as hell know he didn't get it from us being violent.

    Are you nursing my daughter?  Because she does the exact same thing.   With the little impish grin and slow bite while watching my reaction and all.  She also does the "toddler drop" even though she isn't quite 11 months old.

    OP I think talking to the cashier was over the top. 

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