NC Pastor Tells Parents to Crack Wrists, Punch Effeminate Children

Reeve · May 2012

LittleMoxie:
fernane:

All of this (these laws, I mean) is irrelevant to today. If you know the beliefs of Christianity, you will find that they believe that after Christ, we are no longer bound by Old Testament law..which all of your references are. Try finding a verse in the new testament, Christ's law, whom they follow, regarding anything but love and get back to me. I'd love to meet up, but unless you live in the vicinity of Vietnam, I wouldn't be able to afford it ATM..

You asked for it - Jesus talking about something besides love.

Luke 14: 25 -27 (NIV)

Large crowds were traveling with Jesus, and turning to them he said: ²⁶?If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters?yes, even their own life?such a person cannot be my disciple. ²⁷And whoever does not carry their cross and follow me cannot be my disciple.

Now, I know you will want to say that what he means is putting him first and loving him WAAAY more than anyone on earth blah blah blah, but to be literal, if you want to follow Jesus, I hope you hate all your family. Wait, you're in Vietnam with your husband? You FAIL at being Christian.

And while we are at it, one of my favorite loving hippie Jesus quotes:

Matthew 10:34 "I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword"

This is why, when evangelists come to my door, I answer it with my broadsword, and wait for their pitch. Because I don't agree with them - and I interpret that passage to mean "kill anyone who disagrees" and of course, as I have been told in so many ways by so many christians who are right, individual interpretation trumps EVERYTHING. And obviously, I am right.

chiualover · May 2012

curlydoglover:
lyssbobiss:
wife07mom09:

you realize this is not Biblical at all to harm someone and this guy is off his rocker.

It IS Biblical that God does not condone homosexuality but just like he doesnt condone cheating, stealing or any other sin.

Still, harming someone or degrading them is wrong-the Bible is clear on that

Oh thank God you're here to speak for all Christians about the Bible.

Listen, I'm having this problem. I know I'm supposed to leave the city once a month when I have my period. But sometimes they're really long, and I haven't accrued enough vacation time to keep bailing PLUS my boss doesn't seem to understand my religious convictions. I'm being persecuted, right? So...where do you go monthly when you are shunned because of your uterine happenings? Can we meet up?

"I'm interested in selling my youngest daughter into slavery as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. She's a Georgetown sophomore, speaks fluent Italian, always cleaned the table when it was her turn. What would a good price for her be?"

"My chief of staff, Leo McGarry, insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly says he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself or is it okay to call the police?"

"Here's one that's really important cause we've got a lot of sports fans in this town: touching the skin of a dead pig makes one unclean. Leviticus 11:7 If they promise to wear gloves can the Washington Redskins still play football? Can Notre Dame? Can West Point?
"Does the whole town really have to be together to stone my brother, John, for planting different crops side by side? Can I burn my mother in a small family gathering for wearing garments made from two different threads?"

Thank you, my favorite Bartlett monologe

fernane · May 2012

3.27.04_Helper:
fernane:
lyssbobiss:
curlydoglover:
lyssbobiss:
wife07mom09:

you realize this is not Biblical at all to harm someone and this guy is off his rocker.

It IS Biblical that God does not condone homosexuality but just like he doesnt condone cheating, stealing or any other sin.

Still, harming someone or degrading them is wrong-the Bible is clear on that

Oh thank God you're here to speak for all Christians about the Bible.

Listen, I'm having this problem. I know I'm supposed to leave the city once a month when I have my period. But sometimes they're really long, and I haven't accrued enough vacation time to keep bailing PLUS my boss doesn't seem to understand my religious convictions. I'm being persecuted, right? So...where do you go monthly when you are shunned because of your uterine happenings? Can we meet up?

"I'm interested in selling my youngest daughter into slavery as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. She's a Georgetown sophomore, speaks fluent Italian, always cleaned the table when it was her turn. What would a good price for her be?"

"My chief of staff, Leo McGarry, insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly says he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself or is it okay to call the police?"

"Here's one that's really important cause we've got a lot of sports fans in this town: touching the skin of a dead pig makes one unclean. Leviticus 11:7 If they promise to wear gloves can the Washington Redskins still play football? Can Notre Dame? Can West Point?
"Does the whole town really have to be together to stone my brother, John, for planting different crops side by side? Can I burn my mother in a small family gathering for wearing garments made from two different threads?"

Oh, I love The West Wing!

All of this (these laws, I mean) is irrelevant to today. If you know the beliefs of Christianity, you will find that they believe that after Christ, we are no longer bound by Old Testament law..which all of your references are. Try finding a verse in the new testament, Christ's law, whom they follow, regarding anything but love and get back to me. I'd love to meet up, but unless you live in the vicinity of Vietnam, I wouldn't be able to afford it ATM..

If you are going to believe the bible is absolute truth you can't pick and choose passages.

Thats like saying if you read a novel and the beginning is different than the ending, you can't believe them both. The Bible is set up in chronological stories, Christ being at the end, and whom we are told to follow, not anything before him (old testament). The beginning of any story is essential as it sets everything up for the main plot, but it's not the main focus. do I believe what was written in the OT was the way things were back then? Absolutely. But the New Testament is what Christians follow, as understandably, Christ is the core of Christianity an d we are told to follow him, not former laws.

And to the poster who spoke of hating your family, in context, it is referring to Christ calling people to love and follow him above family. That doesn't mean you can't be married...not sure where you got that..keep trying.

3.27.04_Helper · May 2012

fernane:
3.27.04_Helper:
fernane:
lyssbobiss:
curlydoglover:
lyssbobiss:
wife07mom09:

you realize this is not Biblical at all to harm someone and this guy is off his rocker.

It IS Biblical that God does not condone homosexuality but just like he doesnt condone cheating, stealing or any other sin.

Still, harming someone or degrading them is wrong-the Bible is clear on that

Oh thank God you're here to speak for all Christians about the Bible.

Listen, I'm having this problem. I know I'm supposed to leave the city once a month when I have my period. But sometimes they're really long, and I haven't accrued enough vacation time to keep bailing PLUS my boss doesn't seem to understand my religious convictions. I'm being persecuted, right? So...where do you go monthly when you are shunned because of your uterine happenings? Can we meet up?

"I'm interested in selling my youngest daughter into slavery as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. She's a Georgetown sophomore, speaks fluent Italian, always cleaned the table when it was her turn. What would a good price for her be?"

"My chief of staff, Leo McGarry, insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly says he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself or is it okay to call the police?"

"Here's one that's really important cause we've got a lot of sports fans in this town: touching the skin of a dead pig makes one unclean. Leviticus 11:7 If they promise to wear gloves can the Washington Redskins still play football? Can Notre Dame? Can West Point?
"Does the whole town really have to be together to stone my brother, John, for planting different crops side by side? Can I burn my mother in a small family gathering for wearing garments made from two different threads?"

Oh, I love The West Wing!

All of this (these laws, I mean) is irrelevant to today. If you know the beliefs of Christianity, you will find that they believe that after Christ, we are no longer bound by Old Testament law..which all of your references are. Try finding a verse in the new testament, Christ's law, whom they follow, regarding anything but love and get back to me. I'd love to meet up, but unless you live in the vicinity of Vietnam, I wouldn't be able to afford it ATM..

If you are going to believe the bible is absolute truth you can't pick and choose passages.

Thats like saying if you read a novel and the beginning is different than the ending, you can't believe them both. The Bible is set up in chronological stories, Christ being at the end, and whom we are told to follow, not anything before him (old testament). The beginning of any story is essential as it sets everything up for the main plot, but it's not the main focus. do I believe what was written in the OT was the way things were back then? Absolutely. But the New Testament is what Christians follow, as understandably, Christ is the core of Christianity an d we are told to follow him, not former laws.

And to the poster who spoke of hating your family, in context, it is referring to Christ calling people to love and follow him above family. That doesn't mean you can't be married...not sure where you got that..keep trying.

If you believe in god, then you must believe he wrote the entire bible and if he wrote the entire bible you must follow the entire bible. You don't get to pick and choose which pieces you are going to follow.

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