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second time i have caught him cheating online

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Re: second time i have caught him cheating online

  • You are the only person I took issue with and I received the same advice from several other people. Maybe you should look inward instead of thinking I am being ridiculous.

    pot meet kettle

    good luck to you


     



  • I would probably try to keep myself pretty busy. The more time you have to sit and think about it the worse you will probably feel. And if you are up to it, I would go and just take the picture. If you don't go, then everything will come out. I am like you and would keep quiet until I knew what was going on. I can see you are unsure, totally understandable. This would be so hard. I always say I would leave if I found out my H had been cheating. But again, here you are in the same situation not sure. It is a huge decision and only you know what feels right. Go to this therapy, for yourself. He needs to find out his problem too. And with you and him having conflicting schedules, maybe that is a good thing for now giving you a little time to think about all of it. I would definitely go to work. Stay as busy as you can to keep your head up but really take it all in. I am so sorry you have to go thru this. I know it is hard but just remember things will get better.

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  • I would probably try to keep myself pretty busy. The more time you have to sit and think about it the worse you will probably feel. And if you are up to it, I would go and just take the picture. If you don't go, then everything will come out. I am like you and would keep quiet until I knew what was going on. I can see you are unsure, totally understandable. This would be so hard. I always say I would leave if I found out my H had been cheating. But again, here you are in the same situation not sure. It is a huge decision and only you know what feels right. Go to this therapy, for yourself. He needs to find out his problem too. And with you and him having conflicting schedules, maybe that is a good thing for now giving you a little time to think about all of it. I would definitely go to work. Stay as busy as you can to keep your head up but really take it all in. I am so sorry you have to go thru this. I know it is hard but just remember things will get better.

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  • and ps - I would cancel the family photo. No need to even explain yourself to them - let your H tell them what a POS he is.
  • I came in here posting about divorce and infidelity which are heavy life altering topics. I didn't think the response tone would be similar to The Knot when a bride wants to have a cash bar or wants to kick out a BM.

    I might be over sensitive in my circumstance but I don't understand the tone of some replies.
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  • so, you caught him the 1st time and really did nothing to address it except him looking something up on line.

    now you caught him AGAIN and are still considering staying?

     

    hmmm.....I wonder WHY he thinks its ok

    This dead on reminds me of on The Knot when a bride asks how to kick a BM out and people respond as fast as possible to call her out on bad behavior trying to out do one another with who can act more outraged.

    I probably should have ignored it the first time and I probably should be ignoring it now. I just don't understand what this comment says other than a cursory reading of my OP and a reply blaming me for his cheating.

    Can't imagine why it would be bothersome as I sit and try to wrap my head around the idea of divorce, separating property and assets, holidays, family, and friends.

    I forgave him before because we worked through it rebuilding trust but also because I cheated on a boyfriend before and have never cheated any other time. It happens. People make mistakes.
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  • OP, I don't think any of us here take infidelity and divorce lightly. But it seems like you clearly do if you are wiling to stay with someone who repeatedly cheats on you and then lies about it. So by all means, stay with him, then come back in a few years and tell us how that's working out for you. *insert sarcasm here*



  • You are going to do what you want. You did come here for advice and you're getting it. From several people. If you want to stay, all power to you. I wouldn't. Cheating is MY dealbreaker. Yours, not sure exactly. If I were you, I would be the one to go check MYSELF out. Get MYSELF a STD test. I would start worrying about myself and what I was going to do next. No kids are involved and you can go. I never say to divorce but this one.... Well, my advice! Take care of yourself quit getting so worked up about everyones' advice and take it all in. ALL OF IT! Sucks to say and it isn't easy and wont be now, but it will be better for you in the long run. Yes, lots of paperwork, dividing things etc, but is that a bigger deal than being cheated on?? And yes mistakes DO happen, but he made this same mistake 2X! So his mistake, you already gave him his freebee!

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  • You are going to do what you want. You did come here for advice and you're getting it. From several people. If you want to stay, all power to you. I wouldn't. Cheating is MY dealbreaker. Yours, not sure exactly. If I were you, I would be the one to go check MYSELF out. Get MYSELF a STD test. I would start worrying about myself and what I was going to do next. No kids are involved and you can go. I never say to divorce but this one.... Well, my advice! Take care of yourself quit getting so worked up about everyones' advice and take it all in. ALL OF IT! Sucks to say and it isn't easy and wont be now, but it will be better for you in the long run. Yes, lots of paperwork, dividing things etc, but is that a bigger deal than being cheated on?? And yes mistakes DO happen, but he made this same mistake 2X! So his mistake, you already gave him his freebee!

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  • I believe there are situations where infidelity can be moved past. This is not one. He has talked to multiple girls through craigslist. That's just gross. Who does that???? He's a serial cheater. There's no doubt about that. Run for the hills before you get a disease from this man!
  • Disneygeek77Disneygeek77 member
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    edited December 2013

    OP, please know I am saying this only out of concern.  No matter what he does or says, you need to get your own STD test.

    If he can lie about all of this, he most certainly can lie about getting tested.  Even if he does get tested, he can lie about the results of the test.

    Please call your DR today and make an appointment. No matter what you need to get tested.  This isn't something you want to find out when you are already pregnant. 

  • I may just be adding ANOTHER response here, but I've been in a similar situation.

    My husband and I had been married for about 6 months in February 2012. He had lost his job in November and was spending a lot of time alone. One day, by accident, I found a bunch of emails of naked girls in his inbox. I traced them back to a Craigslist ad. When he came home, I told him what I found and he denied he was the ad poster. He swore up and down someone must've hacked his account. I gave him the benefit of the doubt and we got passed it.

    In September of this year, after MONTHS of feeling like something between us was "just wrong", I went into his email and Facebook accounts. I found more messages in response to Craigslist ads, but also messages between him and a female "friend" that were way too flirty for my liking. Again, I confronted him. He tried to lie about it but I wouldn't let him. I KNEW this time that he had actually posted the ads. We also talked about him discontinuing his contact with the female friend.

    I have no proof that he ever met these girls, or that he ever cheated. The idea alone, however, is enough for me to lose all trust I had in him. I'm always second guessing him and wondering if he's telling me the truth. When we're together and he receives a text, I wonder who it's from and what they're talking about.

    We do not live together, currently, because of other issues. I don't know if we'll ever get back together. It's difficult because I'm torn between wanting to love the man I married and feeling stuck with this person who has seemed to replace him. I've always thought of myself as a strong, independent woman but he makes me feel like a doormat.

    Another poster said you deserve to have the relationship of your dreams. Don't give up on that. I know what you're going through is heartbreaking now, but that old saying is true "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger".
  • I don't get the stigma about being "divorced before 30", or any other age. If you have to get divorced--and personally, I don't think he left you any other choice for all the reasons others have outlined above--then the sooner/younger the better! I think basically everyone I know who got divorced before 30 got remarried, and most of those second marriages have been happy. Folks I know who got divorced in their 30s or later have had a lot less luck finding love. Anecdotal, I know, but seriously, why wait? I get giving him a second chance, but a third? This form of cheating is so premeditated and intentional. I'm not sure if I could forgive any kind of cheating, but this seems like one of the least forgivable kinds.
  • I feel bad because it really sounds like your husband is a douche with little to no respect for you. You don't go around posting things like this on craigslist unless you ACTUALLY WANT trouble. It's not like "well I had a few minutes to kill and just happened upon looking at / posting craiglist ads for some action!" It sounds like he's got a serial cheating issue. 

    One other thing that you mentioned made me also feel bad for you....worrying about being divorced before 30?! I was divorced at 28.....and now I'm married to the love of my life. I understand where you're coming from because I worried so much about what people would think about me splitting with my ex that I spent a good 8 extra years of my life with him when I should have been finding happiness....but you need to get over it and find someone awesome out there. Awesome men do exist. 

    Good luck - 
    Laura 
  • I agree...why prolong the inevitable? The guy has shown you loud and clear who he is - and will continue to disrespect you and the vows he made to you. I am sure that if you divorced before 30, and then when people find out why, they would be more sympathetic towards you than they would him, not to mention the general consensus would be that you did the right thing by leaving this loser. So go ahead and do the right thing ;)
  • Why the hang up over being divorced before 30? That's such an arbitrary number. I was divorced before 30. And then after it. And I'm married again, this time 5 years and still going strong. Feel free to judge me for being on my 3rd marriage, but I can never be judged for staying in a marriage with a cheater, because I made the decision that I wasn't willing to stay with someone who would do that. 
    Decide what you are willing to live with, but don't give the numbers any more weight than they deserve. Should a 50-year-old stay with a cheater just because she's 50? I'd rather be single.
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  • Show him the door, like you should have the first time he cheated on you.
  • I just want to let you know, you are not alone. I am currently going thru this. He went on a dating website over year ago just to talk to other girls, I read emails he never once tired to meet they were strictly emails. This was when we were on the rocks an I seriously considered canceling the wedding,esp after I found that out. That by no means was an excuse. We got married in oct 2013, this December while he was away for training I found out he went out with his military boys without his ring on, but the girl swore to me nothing happen but drinks an chit chat an she felt extermely stupid for not asking if he was single an she felt bad for me an for herself. So I do believe nothing happen there. He apologized told me it was dump an stupid had no reason for why he did it an he knew it costed him, i do feel the boys he was with were influenceual in this seniro for they to did the same...but I also saw he not only looked at personal ads on Craig list but he had posted on as well.
    He did this 3 weeks before the wedding. I WAS CRUSHED, I take my religion seriously, I take my vows seriously, an I have never been more hurt, or betrayed in my life. Now before the wedding we had to go two months without sex, that was what we swore to god in front of my pastor. I told him since it seems he couldnt wait that he has a sex problem an needs help.
    I know its hard making a descion. An to be honest, you have ever right to talk to someone. I felt like you when I found out. I didn't want to say anything just in case....but I couldn't hold it in, I was so hurt, an I posted on fourms an they all said the ssame thing. ....I desperately needed my family. I told my ssister an my mom... (didn't tell my dad though) I had to, I had to get it off my chest, bc telling strangers esp people who do not know me, know my husband, or know our relationship, did not help. I needed the comfort an support from people I love. My sister thinks I should leave, my mom thinks I should leave or do counsling. At the end of the day both had my back no matter what.
    As stupid as it may sound to people. I am working on my marriage. I am newly married an I feel like I would be failing god if I didn't try to work on my marriage at lest once. So I told my husband that, an I told him that god was the main reason I was staying.
    I am not perfect I know, an neither is my husband , we both have problems, his big one is he hards a hard time communicating his feelings. I have a hard time not taking things so personally. So I came up with a list of thngs we both need to do every week in order for our relationship to work, some of those were, write in a journal ay lest 2 times a week. This way we can see how each other is feeling an where we are coming from (this is to help with his communication problem) go to bed together (like reading an what not in bed) at lest once a week. Watch each others shows at lest once, have sex at lest twice a week, go to theripist. These are jusy some things.
    I let him know that I have talk to a divorce lawyer (an you should, just so you know whay to expect) we have been looking for houses, I told him we are not going to buy, we are going to stay where we are. I told him I did not trust him an I not going to buy a house with someone who does what he did am I won't consider looking again till I know our relationship is soiled. I told him kids are way way way on the backer burner as well. He realized I was serious, an he was a little hurt when I told him about the divorce lawyer an the no go on house. He has an understanding that if he does not commit to go he counseling we are done, an when I say commit there will be no changing or canelling of apts unless we are bleeding severely or dieing. He is not allowed to cancel ANY or we are done.
    So far he has stuck to everything. I love my husband, an I know he loves me regardless of what people say I know that if I was hurt he would be right by myside weather we are together or not. I believe that, my mother believes it. Because I know the person my husband is, I also know if his family knew ttheyd kick his butt.
    Like I said at the end of the day nobody really knows you an your relationship. Only u canndo what's best an right for you. I will leave if my husband does it again, an he knows it. So if he does an I leave yea to other people I may look like an idoit but I did what was right for me, an at lest we can both say we tried.
    I'm so sorry thia happen to you an I wouldn't wish this kind of heart ach on anyone. Stay tuff, stand your ground. If he really loves you hell want to work it out an he won't complain about doing what you need to have done to make u feel better about the relationship. If he does then he doesn't want it an youll habe your answer.
    I wish you the best
  • ^^^ sorry, but you should have shown your lying cheating H the door BEFORE you married him - wtf. You KNEW he was like this prior to your marriage and yet you still went through with the wedding? Sorry to sound mean, but what kind of idiot are you? Religious aspect aside - you KNEW your H was a cheater when you still had the opportunity to get out before making your commitment in front of god - why on god's green earth did you go through with the wedding? You really are lacking in serious common sense if you bought the bullshit excuses he fed to you. Wow...just no words for this at all....you've shown this guy that you are a doormat and that no matter how many times he lies and cheats, you will stay with him...smh
  • sarahb061 said:
    I just want to let you know, you are not alone. I am currently going thru this. He went on a dating website over year ago just to talk to other girls, I read emails he never once tired to meet they were strictly emails. This was when we were on the rocks an I seriously considered canceling the wedding,esp after I found that out. That by no means was an excuse. We got married in oct 2013, this December while he was away for training I found out he went out with his military boys without his ring on, but the girl swore to me nothing happen but drinks an chit chat an she felt extermely stupid for not asking if he was single an she felt bad for me an for herself. So I do believe nothing happen there. He apologized told me it was dump an stupid had no reason for why he did it an he knew it costed him, i do feel the boys he was with were influenceual in this seniro for they to did the same...but I also saw he not only looked at personal ads on Craig list but he had posted on as well. He did this 3 weeks before the wedding. I WAS CRUSHED, I take my religion seriously, I take my vows seriously, an I have never been more hurt, or betrayed in my life. Now before the wedding we had to go two months without sex, that was what we swore to god in front of my pastor. I told him since it seems he couldnt wait that he has a sex problem an needs help. I know its hard making a descion. An to be honest, you have ever right to talk to someone. I felt like you when I found out. I didn't want to say anything just in case....but I couldn't hold it in, I was so hurt, an I posted on fourms an they all said the ssame thing. ....I desperately needed my family. I told my ssister an my mom... (didn't tell my dad though) I had to, I had to get it off my chest, bc telling strangers esp people who do not know me, know my husband, or know our relationship, did not help. I needed the comfort an support from people I love. My sister thinks I should leave, my mom thinks I should leave or do counsling. At the end of the day both had my back no matter what. As stupid as it may sound to people. I am working on my marriage. I am newly married an I feel like I would be failing god if I didn't try to work on my marriage at lest once. So I told my husband that, an I told him that god was the main reason I was staying. I am not perfect I know, an neither is my husband , we both have problems, his big one is he hards a hard time communicating his feelings. I have a hard time not taking things so personally. So I came up with a list of thngs we both need to do every week in order for our relationship to work, some of those were, write in a journal ay lest 2 times a week. This way we can see how each other is feeling an where we are coming from (this is to help with his communication problem) go to bed together (like reading an what not in bed) at lest once a week. Watch each others shows at lest once, have sex at lest twice a week, go to theripist. These are jusy some things. I let him know that I have talk to a divorce lawyer (an you should, just so you know whay to expect) we have been looking for houses, I told him we are not going to buy, we are going to stay where we are. I told him I did not trust him an I not going to buy a house with someone who does what he did am I won't consider looking again till I know our relationship is soiled. I told him kids are way way way on the backer burner as well. He realized I was serious, an he was a little hurt when I told him about the divorce lawyer an the no go on house. He has an understanding that if he does not commit to go he counseling we are done, an when I say commit there will be no changing or canelling of apts unless we are bleeding severely or dieing. He is not allowed to cancel ANY or we are done. So far he has stuck to everything. I love my husband, an I know he loves me regardless of what people say I know that if I was hurt he would be right by myside weather we are together or not. I believe that, my mother believes it. Because I know the person my husband is, I also know if his family knew ttheyd kick his butt. Like I said at the end of the day nobody really knows you an your relationship. Only u canndo what's best an right for you. I will leave if my husband does it again, an he knows it. So if he does an I leave yea to other people I may look like an idoit but I did what was right for me, an at lest we can both say we tried. I'm so sorry thia happen to you an I wouldn't wish this kind of heart ach on anyone. Stay tuff, stand your ground. If he really loves you hell want to work it out an he won't complain about doing what you need to have done to make u feel better about the relationship. If he does then he doesn't want it an youll habe your answer. I wish you the best
    What?! Why the hell would you marry this guy and now use religion as an excuse to stay? You wanted to chain yourself to someone you knew you shouldn't have and now you're using God wanting you to work on it as an excuse to stay? Maybe a God was giving you a clue that you needed to dump this guy when you found allllllll these red flags BEFORE the wedding! 

    I'm sorry you're hurting, but you have a serious problem and need some help. 
  • first of all I am not an idiot.an how ironic it is to say " not trying to sound mean," when that is exactly what it is. I may be a fool only the furture will tell, my religion is not an excuse, it is simply how I feel an my beliefs. You people are ruthless, someone ask for advice, they  did not ask to get ridiculed..I made my decision like it our not get over it, you can keep your mouth shut, I didn't ask for your opinion. I simply told a women who is in the same position I was what I did, in hopes that it would help her. I didn't tell her what to do, how to do it, I didn't say she was stupid, dump or call her an idiot for her even remotely considering staying with this guy. If I wanted your opinion I would have asked for it by posting my very own board. So keep your mouth shut an watch who you are name calling there.

  • sarahb061sarahb061 member
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    edited January 2014

    i am not a kiddo, and that messages was not totally directed to you per say, I shouldn't have to leave a "PM" , people should learn to respect other people opinions and beliefs before name calling. Its bullying an where you may think you are helping someone you are only making them feel as worthless as they already feel, I can not stand that, an I can not stand people who can not respect others views an opinions  an respond respectfully.

    and you mean to say that posting s fair game so if someone starting calling you names you wouldn't say something?

  • No one is ridiculing the OP here - we are pointing out to her what a piece of shit her cheating liar H is. And now you too. And even worse, you are essentially giving advice to OP that it's perfectly okay to stay with this loser and continue to be a doormat - cut me a fucking break. I seriously hope you do not have children because they will grow up watching their mother be treated like doormat and thinking that the kind of behavior your H is pulling is perfectly acceptable. Not exactly the kind of thing a child should think is okay. And yes, you are an idiot because you busted your H and his cheating ways well before your wedding and yet you chose to buy his line of bullshit and marry him anyway when you could have walked away. That's got to be the most stupid thing a person could do.

    Once again: Cheating = Dealbreaker
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