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WTF- Trump rant

I'm angry as hell right now.  I'm being marginalized as a Republican by this one man's bull shit.  I honestly think Trump's a lunatic.  He and his supporters are exactly what the left has tried to stereotype the right as for years and I'm now being thrown into the same group with these bigots in the eyes of the world.  The vocal minority is making the rest of us seem like racist assholes.

Trump doesn't respect the laws, principles, or morals that make our country what it is.  Trump doesn't love our country because he obviously doesn't understand it.  He has no idea what he stands for because his policies are all over the map.  He certainly does not stand for or even understand conservative principles.  

I literally can't watch the news anymore because I'm horrified at what the GOP is becoming.  Trump is single-handedly tearing the party apart and making all of us seem insane.  At this rate, we'll never win a general election because 1. Trump might get the nomination and no independent will ever take him seriously (nor should they) 2. Trump won't get the nomination and will run third party, which he threatening to do if the GOP comes down too hard on him (side note: so he's holding a gun to the GOP's head?  Really?  WTF) 3. Trump has given the GOP such a terrible reputation and the Dems will do everything to marginalize the entire party into a group of bigots.   

We need a president who will unite us.  I believe with all my heart that the majority of Americans mostly agree on political issues with slight variances and at the end of the day, we want the solutions to the same problems.  We need to be reminded why our country is great, not led astray from our basic ideals.
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  • He is a PIG.

    I have disliked him intensely since that interview he gave Vogue back in 1993 where he said "I cannot believe I am in the prime of my life and I am married."

    Right after that, little Marla Maples came from the backstreet to the forefront.

    No decent married man, or a decent person, for that matter, makes a claim like that.

    He had plans to buy out a landfill in New Jersey (the story behind it is checkered and full of corruption) and on it, build a Trumpville --- high end high rises, expensive retail and another damn "world class" golf course.

    He wussied out and ran when he was told he had to remediate the land first before he could start building on it.

    North Arlington, Lyndhurst and Rutherford got saved by the bell. Think of the drain on their resources, sewer system and traffic and more.

    He is a pig and I detest him.

    Celebrities should be banned from running for President or governor. People will vote for that person for the wrong reason.
  • He's just a ego-maniac, wannabe politician.  He has seen he gets a lot of attention for being outrageous...so he just gets more outrageous.

    He talks out one side of his mouth about "making America great again" while saying out the other side that we need to block all Muslims from entering the US, whether they are immigrants or just on vacation.

    Apparently he and I have very different ideas about what makes America great.  I think the freedoms we enjoy in this country are a core and essential component in what makes America great.  Yet he blatantly wants to discriminate against people based on their religion.  He's a horror show.

  • vlagrl29vlagrl29 member
    Sixth Anniversary 2500 Comments 500 Love Its Name Dropper
    edited December 2015
    Thank You!  I'm so sick of it too - honestly thought he would be gone by now and the longer he stays the more scared I get he will be the Nom.  Will the GOP actually elect him as the nom even though he sucks.  That would be a new low.

    I heard the news sunday night and thought "well that won't go over well".  I honestly would no doubt vote Dem if he was the nom and I don't trust hilary but she is way better than trump.  But maybe that was his ploy to run to ensure her a victory.  Either way by being the nominee or the Independent to split the R votes  - who knows, its gotta be a joke right?  It's making politics a joke for sure.

    We should start a bet of when we think he will drop out or his polls will get low enough that hopefully Rubio gets up there.
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  • I have never watched polls as closely as I have in this race because I'm always analyzing how Trump is going to lose (praying he'll lose is more like it).

    Here's my hopeful answer right now:

    Iowa is going Cruz.  I'm pretty positive on that.  Trump took that tiny drop, called all Iowans idiots, and they actually seemed pissed off about that enough that he's continued to drop in the polls.

    New Hampshire- I'm so pissed that Trump is still in the lead here.  I'm really really pissed.  If you look at Rubio's upward trajectory though, if he continues going up at the same rate, he should peak in time for the primary.  I'm hoping. 

    If Trump doesn't win Iowa or NH, he doesn't have much of a prayer moving forward.  He might pick up a state or two, but nothing that's going to do much for him.  

    If he wins, NH, we'll have to hope he doesn't win SC.  I have no idea what's been going on in SC polls.

    I don't get it, he must have dozens of gold plated closets filled with skeletons.  Every other candidate who has ever run for president has had their closets cleaned out by the media and by other candidates.  Why aren't they looking for anything on Trump?  I think it's because the GOP thought it would be safer to just let him be and not pissed him off so he wouldn't run third party.  That didn't work out well.  Now he's destroying the entire party from the inside. Awesome. 
  • I also wanted to add that he is a HUGE distraction from actual issues.  Last week we a had terror attack on US soil and now all we are talking about is Trump.  That's madness.  
  • It's sad to say, but most millenials seem to see him as he is, but there are far more young people who are Democrats than Republicans. The only way to stop Trump from actually winning the Republican ticket is for Republican millenials to vote, and to vote for one candidate. I think at the end of the day, the real race will be between Trump, Carson, Rubio, and Cruz. Even Carson is starting to fade into the background.

    Also-I'm seeing a lot of the Trump lovers starting to shift their second choice from Carson to Cruz. I'm seeing all these articles about how Rubio is a career politician and Cruz is so much better than him. Can someone explain to me how Cruz is not a career politician? 

    I am a complete Rubio fan, but I'm worrying he's starting to lose votes because his ideas aren't extreme enough - which in my opinion, is what we need in a President. We need someone who can compromise with Congress and who has both Democrats and Republicans in mind when making policy decisions. Nothing has gotten done with Obama, because he won't work with the Republicans in Congress and just vetoes every law they propose. No other candidates in either parties have convinced me that they can turn this problem around. 

  • well when does it get serious?  At what point will we see only the real candidates take the lead.  I don't want cruz either.  Don't care for him.  I'm also afraid of how hung up they are about repealing obamacare.  That word scares me.  How about they try and help fix the parts that aren't as great about it.  
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  • It's sad to say, but most millenials seem to see him as he is, but there are far more young people who are Democrats than Republicans. The only way to stop Trump from actually winning the Republican ticket is for Republican millenials to vote, and to vote for one candidate. I think at the end of the day, the real race will be between Trump, Carson, Rubio, and Cruz. Even Carson is starting to fade into the background.

    Also-I'm seeing a lot of the Trump lovers starting to shift their second choice from Carson to Cruz. I'm seeing all these articles about how Rubio is a career politician and Cruz is so much better than him. Can someone explain to me how Cruz is not a career politician? 

    I am a complete Rubio fan, but I'm worrying he's starting to lose votes because his ideas aren't extreme enough - which in my opinion, is what we need in a President. We need someone who can compromise with Congress and who has both Democrats and Republicans in mind when making policy decisions. Nothing has gotten done with Obama, because he won't work with the Republicans in Congress and just vetoes every law they propose. No other candidates in either parties have convinced me that they can turn this problem around. 

    I'm on board with Rubio at this point.  I like that he isn't extreme, but I mostly like that he can communicate clearly without being bombastic.  I also think he's electable. 

    Cruz is absolutely a career politician!  He and Rubio both have the same amount of political experience.  
  • vlagrl29 said:
    well when does it get serious?  At what point will we see only the real candidates take the lead.  I don't want cruz either.  Don't care for him.  I'm also afraid of how hung up they are about repealing obamacare.  That word scares me.  How about they try and help fix the parts that aren't as great about it.  

    YES!!!  Thank you!  I realize the Affordable Care Act has its issues and some beneficial tweaks would be great, but what we had before was barbaric.  People with medical conditions who could not buy insurance for any price.  People starting on new group plans with their employer, but had to wait one year for the preexisting condition to be covered.

    The whole attitude was, if you have the slightest medical problem, go die in the streets.  So can we please not throw out the baby with the bath water?

  • vlagrl29 said:
    well when does it get serious?  At what point will we see only the real candidates take the lead.  I don't want cruz either.  Don't care for him.  I'm also afraid of how hung up they are about repealing obamacare.  That word scares me.  How about they try and help fix the parts that aren't as great about it.  

    YES!!!  Thank you!  I realize the Affordable Care Act has its issues and some beneficial tweaks would be great, but what we had before was barbaric.  People with medical conditions who could not buy insurance for any price.  People starting on new group plans with their employer, but had to wait one year for the preexisting condition to be covered.

    The whole attitude was, if you have the slightest medical problem, go die in the streets.  So can we please not throw out the baby with the bath water?

    SH!T it scares me that the next R that gets in office will turn it back like it use to be with all the pre existing crap.  We are planning on trying for another baby next year and a possible end of 2016 early 2017 birth and we want it to be affordable and NOT a pre existing condition.  We hurried up and got pregnant with DD while I was on COBRA with my last corp job and I don't want us to have to hurry up and get pregnant with #2 before ACA gets turned over.  DH is more of an R than I am and he says that they just want to make it better and I ask him "then why do they use the word repeal?"  we have great coverage now and I want to keep it.
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  • It's sad to say, but most millenials seem to see him as he is, but there are far more young people who are Democrats than Republicans. The only way to stop Trump from actually winning the Republican ticket is for Republican millenials to vote, and to vote for one candidate. I think at the end of the day, the real race will be between Trump, Carson, Rubio, and Cruz. Even Carson is starting to fade into the background.

    Also-I'm seeing a lot of the Trump lovers starting to shift their second choice from Carson to Cruz. I'm seeing all these articles about how Rubio is a career politician and Cruz is so much better than him. Can someone explain to me how Cruz is not a career politician? 

    I am a complete Rubio fan, but I'm worrying he's starting to lose votes because his ideas aren't extreme enough - which in my opinion, is what we need in a President. We need someone who can compromise with Congress and who has both Democrats and Republicans in mind when making policy decisions. Nothing has gotten done with Obama, because he won't work with the Republicans in Congress and just vetoes every law they propose. No other candidates in either parties have convinced me that they can turn this problem around. 

    I'm on board with Rubio at this point.  I like that he isn't extreme, but I mostly like that he can communicate clearly without being bombastic.  I also think he's electable. 

    Cruz is absolutely a career politician!  He and Rubio both have the same amount of political experience.  

    That's what I thought...it seems like he's trying to be sly and exclude himself from that group. I for one have no problem electing a "career politician." The POTUS is a political job and requires working with politicians domestically and internationally. It makes no sense to me to elect someone with no experience. I wouldn't hire a school teacher as the CEO of Facebook...why would I elect a businessman (a shady one at that) to be the Commander in Chief?

  • I am really hoping that this latest incident will be the end of Trump. But I have said that before. I hope Cruz goes away soon too. Although he is pretty entertaining. His father actually thinks he's a prophet. If you haven't seen the Daily Show on the Cruz video dump (I guess his super pac was required to put all of this unedited video on the internet), it is highly entertaining.
  • smerka said:
    I am really hoping that this latest incident will be the end of Trump. But I have said that before. I hope Cruz goes away soon too. Although he is pretty entertaining. His father actually thinks he's a prophet. If you haven't seen the Daily Show on the Cruz video dump (I guess his super pac was required to put all of this unedited video on the internet), it is highly entertaining.
    Saw it!  Bizarre.
  • vlagrl29 said:
    vlagrl29 said:
    well when does it get serious?  At what point will we see only the real candidates take the lead.  I don't want cruz either.  Don't care for him.  I'm also afraid of how hung up they are about repealing obamacare.  That word scares me.  How about they try and help fix the parts that aren't as great about it.  

    YES!!!  Thank you!  I realize the Affordable Care Act has its issues and some beneficial tweaks would be great, but what we had before was barbaric.  People with medical conditions who could not buy insurance for any price.  People starting on new group plans with their employer, but had to wait one year for the preexisting condition to be covered.

    The whole attitude was, if you have the slightest medical problem, go die in the streets.  So can we please not throw out the baby with the bath water?

    SH!T it scares me that the next R that gets in office will turn it back like it use to be with all the pre existing crap.  We are planning on trying for another baby next year and a possible end of 2016 early 2017 birth and we want it to be affordable and NOT a pre existing condition.  We hurried up and got pregnant with DD while I was on COBRA with my last corp job and I don't want us to have to hurry up and get pregnant with #2 before ACA gets turned over.  DH is more of an R than I am and he says that they just want to make it better and I ask him "then why do they use the word repeal?"  we have great coverage now and I want to keep it.
    They do want to repeal it, but I believe all candidates want to keep a law in place that requires there needs to be insurance that covers preexisting conditions.  After that, there are other plans to replace the ACA with, although some of them sound similar to ACA.  I personally believe that the free market is the only way to get affordable insurance.  We've never tried a free market solution to health insurance like we have for car insurance, life insurance, home owners insurance, etc.  I'd even be in favor of expanding medicaid, just leave my insurance the hell alone. 

    I personally can't wait for it to be repealed.  My premiums have quadrupled the past 2 years (although I'm not sure it has to do directly with ACA as ACA has not come into full effect for those who get insurance through a major employer) and my parents have been paying such a shit load of money for the worst insurance in the world because they are self-insured and in their early 60's.  It's making them go broke paying for the worst insurance they have ever had.  The co-pays and deductibles are so high, they have never actually used the insurance. They are the literal Obamacare nightmare.  Try being self-employed, in your early 60's and just on the wrong side of the income bracket to get subsides. And just wait until 2017, folks- that's when the parts of the law that fully effect corporations goes into effect.  

  • Cruz is absolutely a career politician!  He and Rubio both have the same amount of political experience.  

    That's what I thought...it seems like he's trying to be sly and exclude himself from that group. I for one have no problem electing a "career politician." The POTUS is a political job and requires working with politicians domestically and internationally. It makes no sense to me to elect someone with no experience. I wouldn't hire a school teacher as the CEO of Facebook...why would I elect a businessman (a shady one at that) to be the Commander in Chief?

    Exactly!  I'm with you 100%
  • But back to Trump.  If he gets the nomination, I've voting for Hilary and I can't stand her, but I figure, eh, I liked Bill, so she can't be too far off.

    I had an interesting conversation with my only GOP "insider" connection today.  She says that as of this week, the GOP and other GOP candidates are over "playing nice" with Trump.  They were playing nice because they were scared of him running third party, but they've decided to let him run third party and take their chances.  She says everyone is amping up to take him down and chase him out of the party. 
  • But back to Trump.  If he gets the nomination, I've voting for Hilary and I can't stand her, but I figure, eh, I liked Bill, so she can't be too far off.

    I had an interesting conversation with my only GOP "insider" connection today.  She says that as of this week, the GOP and other GOP candidates are over "playing nice" with Trump.  They were playing nice because they were scared of him running third party, but they've decided to let him run third party and take their chances.  She says everyone is amping up to take him down and chase him out of the party. 
    Probably because he made the whole GOP look bad and confirmed every stereotype Democrats have of them. If he gets the nomination, I too, will vote Hilary, which I don't want to do because I think she's shady. Sometimes I wonder how this race would be if Trump never tried to run. I think the only reason Cruz is doing so well right now is because all the people who support Trump's ideas but don't want to be labeled as a bigot are supporting Cruz. So, essentially he's just ride the Trump wave. Thank's for the inside look @Bluebird
  • vlagrl29 said:
    vlagrl29 said:
    well when does it get serious?  At what point will we see only the real candidates take the lead.  I don't want cruz either.  Don't care for him.  I'm also afraid of how hung up they are about repealing obamacare.  That word scares me.  How about they try and help fix the parts that aren't as great about it.  

    YES!!!  Thank you!  I realize the Affordable Care Act has its issues and some beneficial tweaks would be great, but what we had before was barbaric.  People with medical conditions who could not buy insurance for any price.  People starting on new group plans with their employer, but had to wait one year for the preexisting condition to be covered.

    The whole attitude was, if you have the slightest medical problem, go die in the streets.  So can we please not throw out the baby with the bath water?

    SH!T it scares me that the next R that gets in office will turn it back like it use to be with all the pre existing crap.  We are planning on trying for another baby next year and a possible end of 2016 early 2017 birth and we want it to be affordable and NOT a pre existing condition.  We hurried up and got pregnant with DD while I was on COBRA with my last corp job and I don't want us to have to hurry up and get pregnant with #2 before ACA gets turned over.  DH is more of an R than I am and he says that they just want to make it better and I ask him "then why do they use the word repeal?"  we have great coverage now and I want to keep it.
    They do want to repeal it, but I believe all candidates want to keep a law in place that requires there needs to be insurance that covers preexisting conditions.  After that, there are other plans to replace the ACA with, although some of them sound similar to ACA.  I personally believe that the free market is the only way to get affordable insurance.  We've never tried a free market solution to health insurance like we have for car insurance, life insurance, home owners insurance, etc.  I'd even be in favor of expanding medicaid, just leave my insurance the hell alone. 

    I personally can't wait for it to be repealed.  My premiums have quadrupled the past 2 years (although I'm not sure it has to do directly with ACA as ACA has not come into full effect for those who get insurance through a major employer) and my parents have been paying such a shit load of money for the worst insurance in the world because they are self-insured and in their early 60's.  It's making them go broke paying for the worst insurance they have ever had.  The co-pays and deductibles are so high, they have never actually used the insurance. They are the literal Obamacare nightmare.  Try being self-employed, in your early 60's and just on the wrong side of the income bracket to get subsides. And just wait until 2017, folks- that's when the parts of the law that fully effect corporations goes into effect.  
    I would be all for opening health insurance across state lines.  That for sure would drive costs down. Sorry about your parents.  that would totally suck.  we are self employed but make way below the threshold for maximum income for subsidies.  Though I thought once you are a certain age you have to be on medicare anyways.
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  • vlagrl29vlagrl29 member
    Sixth Anniversary 2500 Comments 500 Love Its Name Dropper
    edited December 2015
    But back to Trump.  If he gets the nomination, I've voting for Hilary and I can't stand her, but I figure, eh, I liked Bill, so she can't be too far off.

    I had an interesting conversation with my only GOP "insider" connection today.  She says that as of this week, the GOP and other GOP candidates are over "playing nice" with Trump.  They were playing nice because they were scared of him running third party, but they've decided to let him run third party and take their chances.  She says everyone is amping up to take him down and chase him out of the party. 
    Then he would run 3rd party and split the vote right?  I've been saying for 3 years now Hilary will get in and I still believe it, but who knows maybe I'm wrong.

    When's the next debate?
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  • catsareniice1catsareniice1 member
    Ninth Anniversary 2500 Comments 25 Love Its Name Dropper
    edited December 2015
    While I am not the biggest fan of Trump, a Hillary win scares the crap out of me. She was a awful SOS. I honestly cannot believe she is allowed to run for president being under FBI investigation.

    It was PROVEN that she blatantly lied to the American people regarding the attacks in Benghazi. She was contacted some 600 times that help was needed in Benghazi yet those poor men did not get help. Two emails were found where she told her family and the PM of Libya that the attacks killing four Americans were due to terrorist attacks yet she told Americans it was based on a video but "what difference does it make?" She also deleted some thirty thousand emails and did not protect the server. wtf!! She has some nerve running for president. Also, she claims there is a war on women but is married to the war on women. lol

    She is a shameless pathological liar.

    I would vote for Trump over Hillary any day of the week.

    Trump is not always tactful but I honestly feel he is looking out for America's future. London has a no go area where alcohol was removed from shoppers in a Muslim area and women were slammed for wearing short skirts. There are many good Muslims. Trump is friends with many and they agree with his policy. He simply wants to put a temporary ban on Muslims entering the country for safety reasons until we can properly vet everyone. According to Angela Tantaros, an alarming number still believe in Sharia Law.

    vlagrl - The next debate is on the 15th on CNN I believe.
     
  • It's sad to say, but most millenials seem to see him as he is, but there are far more young people who are Democrats than Republicans. The only way to stop Trump from actually winning the Republican ticket is for Republican millenials to vote, and to vote for one candidate. I think at the end of the day, the real race will be between Trump, Carson, Rubio, and Cruz. Even Carson is starting to fade into the background.

    Also-I'm seeing a lot of the Trump lovers starting to shift their second choice from Carson to Cruz. I'm seeing all these articles about how Rubio is a career politician and Cruz is so much better than him. Can someone explain to me how Cruz is not a career politician? 

    I am a complete Rubio fan, but I'm worrying he's starting to lose votes because his ideas aren't extreme enough - which in my opinion, is what we need in a President. We need someone who can compromise with Congress and who has both Democrats and Republicans in mind when making policy decisions. Nothing has gotten done with Obama, because he won't work with the Republicans in Congress and just vetoes every law they propose. No other candidates in either parties have convinced me that they can turn this problem around. 


    I like Rubio too! Exactly! Nothing is getting done with Obama. Hillary recently stated that she would  follow many of his policies. Yikes!
  • vlagrl29 said:
    vlagrl29 said:
    vlagrl29 said:
    well when does it get serious?  At what point will we see only the real candidates take the lead.  I don't want cruz either.  Don't care for him.  I'm also afraid of how hung up they are about repealing obamacare.  That word scares me.  How about they try and help fix the parts that aren't as great about it.  

    YES!!!  Thank you!  I realize the Affordable Care Act has its issues and some beneficial tweaks would be great, but what we had before was barbaric.  People with medical conditions who could not buy insurance for any price.  People starting on new group plans with their employer, but had to wait one year for the preexisting condition to be covered.

    The whole attitude was, if you have the slightest medical problem, go die in the streets.  So can we please not throw out the baby with the bath water?

    SH!T it scares me that the next R that gets in office will turn it back like it use to be with all the pre existing crap.  We are planning on trying for another baby next year and a possible end of 2016 early 2017 birth and we want it to be affordable and NOT a pre existing condition.  We hurried up and got pregnant with DD while I was on COBRA with my last corp job and I don't want us to have to hurry up and get pregnant with #2 before ACA gets turned over.  DH is more of an R than I am and he says that they just want to make it better and I ask him "then why do they use the word repeal?"  we have great coverage now and I want to keep it.
    They do want to repeal it, but I believe all candidates want to keep a law in place that requires there needs to be insurance that covers preexisting conditions.  After that, there are other plans to replace the ACA with, although some of them sound similar to ACA.  I personally believe that the free market is the only way to get affordable insurance.  We've never tried a free market solution to health insurance like we have for car insurance, life insurance, home owners insurance, etc.  I'd even be in favor of expanding medicaid, just leave my insurance the hell alone. 

    I personally can't wait for it to be repealed.  My premiums have quadrupled the past 2 years (although I'm not sure it has to do directly with ACA as ACA has not come into full effect for those who get insurance through a major employer) and my parents have been paying such a shit load of money for the worst insurance in the world because they are self-insured and in their early 60's.  It's making them go broke paying for the worst insurance they have ever had.  The co-pays and deductibles are so high, they have never actually used the insurance. They are the literal Obamacare nightmare.  Try being self-employed, in your early 60's and just on the wrong side of the income bracket to get subsides. And just wait until 2017, folks- that's when the parts of the law that fully effect corporations goes into effect.  
    I would be all for opening health insurance across state lines.  That for sure would drive costs down. Sorry about your parents.  that would totally suck.  we are self employed but make way below the threshold for maximum income for subsidies.  Though I thought once you are a certain age you have to be on medicare anyways.
    65 is medicare age- they are desperately waiting for it.  They're in the most expensive age bracket currently.
  • It's sad to say, but most millenials seem to see him as he is, but there are far more young people who are Democrats than Republicans. The only way to stop Trump from actually winning the Republican ticket is for Republican millenials to vote, and to vote for one candidate. I think at the end of the day, the real race will be between Trump, Carson, Rubio, and Cruz. Even Carson is starting to fade into the background.

    Also-I'm seeing a lot of the Trump lovers starting to shift their second choice from Carson to Cruz. I'm seeing all these articles about how Rubio is a career politician and Cruz is so much better than him. Can someone explain to me how Cruz is not a career politician? 

    I am a complete Rubio fan, but I'm worrying he's starting to lose votes because his ideas aren't extreme enough - which in my opinion, is what we need in a President. We need someone who can compromise with Congress and who has both Democrats and Republicans in mind when making policy decisions. Nothing has gotten done with Obama, because he won't work with the Republicans in Congress and just vetoes every law they propose. No other candidates in either parties have convinced me that they can turn this problem around. 


    I like Rubio too! Exactly! Nothing is getting done with Obama. Hillary recently stated that she would  follow many of his policies. Yikes!
    Totally disagree that Obama is getting nothing done.  I think he's gotten everything done that he said he would.  And that's the scary part.  He's getting nothing done that we want done lol.

    I don't believe that Trump is looking out for this country because I don't think he has a clue what makes our country great.  He's too uneducated to understand the basic principles of our country and he's appealing to the uneducated masses.  There, I said it.  

    If he had said he would want to stop Muslim refugees from coming into the country, I'd be slightly less outraged because I don't believe we should let any refugees in until we have a way of checking their backgrounds.  They are vetted, but there is no verification process.  That applies to all refugees from Syria, however, not just Muslims.  He never, ever, said that this had anything to do with the refugee situation however.  He said he would stop all Muslims from coming from any part of the world for any reason.  That's completely illogical and unconstitutional.  We do have the right to deny access to people coming to this country (and we do it every day for many reasons), but it cannot be based on a religious test.
  • I also want to add this:  We will never win the war on radical Islam if we don't ally with moderate Muslim nations.  Trump is doing everything he can to alienate moderate Muslims around the world.  Hell, he's gotten the entire GOP condemned by the UN.  I'd like a president who is actually taken seriously in the world and can create strong allied relationships.
  • vlagrl29 said:
    But back to Trump.  If he gets the nomination, I've voting for Hilary and I can't stand her, but I figure, eh, I liked Bill, so she can't be too far off.

    I had an interesting conversation with my only GOP "insider" connection today.  She says that as of this week, the GOP and other GOP candidates are over "playing nice" with Trump.  They were playing nice because they were scared of him running third party, but they've decided to let him run third party and take their chances.  She says everyone is amping up to take him down and chase him out of the party. 
    Then he would run 3rd party and split the vote right?  I've been saying for 3 years now Hilary will get in and I still believe it, but who knows maybe I'm wrong.

    When's the next debate?
    Exactly.  I think we've just got to take our chances and let him divide the vote and at least save the reputation of the Republican party even if we don't win a general election.  

    On a side note, the few Trump supporters I know are actually Dems who changed parties to vote for Trump.  I do know there is a campaign out there to flip Dems to vote for Trump.  I don't know what the percentages are, but I wonder if a third party run for Trump would damage Clinton as much as the eventual GOP nominee.  It could be a wash then.  I don't know though, just thinking out loud. 
  • catsareniice1catsareniice1 member
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    edited December 2015

    It's sad to say, but most millenials seem to see him as he is, but there are far more young people who are Democrats than Republicans. The only way to stop Trump from actually winning the Republican ticket is for Republican millenials to vote, and to vote for one candidate. I think at the end of the day, the real race will be between Trump, Carson, Rubio, and Cruz. Even Carson is starting to fade into the background.

    Also-I'm seeing a lot of the Trump lovers starting to shift their second choice from Carson to Cruz. I'm seeing all these articles about how Rubio is a career politician and Cruz is so much better than him. Can someone explain to me how Cruz is not a career politician? 

    I am a complete Rubio fan, but I'm worrying he's starting to lose votes because his ideas aren't extreme enough - which in my opinion, is what we need in a President. We need someone who can compromise with Congress and who has both Democrats and Republicans in mind when making policy decisions. Nothing has gotten done with Obama, because he won't work with the Republicans in Congress and just vetoes every law they propose. No other candidates in either parties have convinced me that they can turn this problem around. 


    I like Rubio too! Exactly! Nothing is getting done with Obama. Hillary recently stated that she would  follow many of his policies. Yikes!
    Totally disagree that Obama is getting nothing done.  I think he's gotten everything done that he said he would.  And that's the scary part.  He's getting nothing done that we want done lol.

    I don't believe that Trump is looking out for this country because I don't think he has a clue what makes our country great.  He's too uneducated to understand the basic principles of our country and he's appealing to the uneducated masses.  There, I said it.  

    If he had said he would want to stop Muslim refugees from coming into the country, I'd be slightly less outraged because I don't believe we should let any refugees in until we have a way of checking their backgrounds.  They are vetted, but there is no verification process.  That applies to all refugees from Syria, however, not just Muslims.  He never, ever, said that this had anything to do with the refugee situation however.  He said he would stop all Muslims from coming from any part of the world for any reason.  That's completely illogical and unconstitutional.  We do have the right to deny access to people coming to this country (and we do it every day for many reasons), but it cannot be based on a religious test.
      I know many college educated people who support Donald Trump, some PHD's. I also know uneducated people who support Trump and Hillary. IMO you have to batshit crazy to support Hillary after what's been revealed. She is a known liar who put our national security in peril. Speaking of dumb people, I know some people who are going to vote for her soley because she's female.

    It actually isn't unconstitutional to deny foreigners a right to enter this country because they are not citizens.
  • catsareniice1catsareniice1 member
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    edited December 2015
    The most important job a POTUS is to keep our country safe. I think Trump is genuinely looking out for people in this country. In an interview circa 1985 he stated he would only run for president if we were in grave danger. He did keep his word.

    We are also something like 19 trillion in debt have many homeless here including veterans. To add more of a financial strain to our economy when there are rich areas in the Middle East is asinine, especially when we have an average of 22 veterans a day committing suicide. We can certainly help with food and shelter by setting up safe areas in the ME. Doing this would be less of a financial strain on the U.S.

    Islam was banned from the USA in 1952. The immigration and Nationality Act passed June 27, 1952, revised the laws relating to immigration, naturalization, and nationality for the United States. That act, which became Public Law 414, established both the law and the intent of Congress regarding the immigration of Aliens to the US and remains in effect today.

    Islamic immigration to the US would be prohibited under this law because the Koran, Sharia Law and the Hadith all require complete submission to Islam, which is antithetical to the US government, the Constitution, and to the Republic.


  • I also want to add this:  We will never win the war on radical Islam if we don't ally with moderate Muslim nations.  Trump is doing everything he can to alienate moderate Muslims around the world.  Hell, he's gotten the entire GOP condemned by the UN.  I'd like a president who is actually taken seriously in the world and can create strong allied relationships.

    Basically, we need the polar opposite of Obama. He's trying the peace route. It's not working. And, it's laughable that he blames terrorism on global warming.

  • I also want to add this:  We will never win the war on radical Islam if we don't ally with moderate Muslim nations.  Trump is doing everything he can to alienate moderate Muslims around the world.  Hell, he's gotten the entire GOP condemned by the UN.  I'd like a president who is actually taken seriously in the world and can create strong allied relationships.

    Basically, we need the polar opposite of Obama. He's trying the peace route. It's not working. And, it's laughable that he blames terrorism on global warming.

    what!?  That is so bizarre. Lately I've been feeling "is this all we got for nominees on both sides" - still waiting for someone to wow me.
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  • Trump wants to keep all Muslims out - including American citizens who are out of the country on vacation. First of all, that is bigoted, asinine, and unconstitional. Second of all, even if he misspoke, he refuses to back down. Neither are qualities I want in a President. Plus Trump wants to bang his own daughter.
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