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  • you guys need to get off her back.  she doesn't believe in gay marriage, she has certain beliefs regarding abortion.  she is not questioning your beliefs.  chill the *** out!  
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  • Are you going to turn this car around, vl? 
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  • Also, in all the years I've been talking to people about gay marriage, I have never heard one argument against it that doesn't involve the Bible. 

     

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  • imagevlagrl29:
    you guys need to get off her back.  she doesn't believe in gay marriage, she has certain beliefs regarding abortion.  she is not questioning your beliefs.  chill the *** out!  
    If someone doesn't want to talk about their political beliefs, then they probably shouldn't be on this board.
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  • vlagirl, stop trampling on my right to free speech!
  • imagevlagrl29:
    you guys need to get off her back.  she doesn't believe in gay marriage, she has certain beliefs regarding abortion.  she is not questioning your beliefs.  chill the *** out!  

    The point of a discussion is to discuss.  I've been very civil with her, I'm just trying to understand her views.  

    It's weird to say "I'm engaging in this conversation about 'x' because I believe in 'x'.  However, I will not discuss 'x' because those are my personal beliefs."

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  • imageCoffeeBeen:

    What does it mean to not believe in abortion/gay marriage?  Because I assure you, there are abortions and gay marriages.  Do you mean that you don't believe people should get abortions and gay marriages or do you mean you believe there shouldn't be abortion/gay marriages? 

    I guess I'm having a hard time understanding why you keep saying "I'm not saying it should be illegal, I'm saying I don't believe in it" (paraphrased).  Is that the equivalent of saying "I don't want to engage, but I think it should be legal for others."?

    I don't believe in abortion for me personally as in I would never choose that as an option for me. I don't believe in same sex marriage for me personally as in it would not be an option for me. I am well aware there are abortions and same sex marriages.  I just would not choose that for me. 

  • imagecincychick35:
    imageCoffeeBeen:

    What does it mean to not believe in abortion/gay marriage?  Because I assure you, there are abortions and gay marriages.  Do you mean that you don't believe people should get abortions and gay marriages or do you mean you believe there shouldn't be abortion/gay marriages? 

    I guess I'm having a hard time understanding why you keep saying "I'm not saying it should be illegal, I'm saying I don't believe in it" (paraphrased).  Is that the equivalent of saying "I don't want to engage, but I think it should be legal for others."?

    I don't believe in abortion for me personally as in I would never choose that as an option for me. I don't believe in same sex marriage for me personally as in it would not be an option for me. I am well aware there are abortions and same sex marriages.  I just would not choose that for me. 

    So, do you believe they should be options for other people?

    ^^^^ yes/no question

    I'm not trying to be snarky, I'm seriously just have a hard time understanding where you draw the line.

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  • imagecincychick35:
    I don't believe in same sex marriage for me personally as in it would not be an option for me...I just would not choose that for me. 

    Because you aren't gay. That logic is a little shoddy. 

  • imagecincychick35:
    imageCoffeeBeen:

    What does it mean to not believe in abortion/gay marriage?  Because I assure you, there are abortions and gay marriages.  Do you mean that you don't believe people should get abortions and gay marriages or do you mean you believe there shouldn't be abortion/gay marriages? 

    I guess I'm having a hard time understanding why you keep saying "I'm not saying it should be illegal, I'm saying I don't believe in it" (paraphrased).  Is that the equivalent of saying "I don't want to engage, but I think it should be legal for others."?

    I don't believe in abortion for me personally as in I would never choose that as an option for me. I don't believe in same sex marriage for me personally as in it would not be an option for me. I am well aware there are abortions and same sex marriages.  I just would not choose that for me. 

    I am against abortion for myself too. I could never have one (I don't think). But I recognize that just because I feel this way, doesn't mean I should impose that on all women.

    I don't really understand how you can say you're against gay marriage because you are not gay yourself. You are obviously FOR marriage because you are married, so that means you just don't want gays to have the same rights as you for one reason or another, which you apparently don't feel like sharing. 

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  • imagecincychick35:
    I don't believe in same sex marriage for me personally as in it would not be an option for me...I just would not choose that for me. 

    We understand that you wouldn't marry a person of the same sex because you are straight.  But what about  people who are not straight- do you think they should have the right to marry a person of their choosing, and if not, what explanation do you have that doesn't rely on homophobia?

  • imagecincychick35:
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    What does it mean to not believe in abortion/gay marriage?  Because I assure you, there are abortions and gay marriages.  Do you mean that you don't believe people should get abortions and gay marriages or do you mean you believe there shouldn't be abortion/gay marriages? 

    I guess I'm having a hard time understanding why you keep saying "I'm not saying it should be illegal, I'm saying I don't believe in it" (paraphrased).  Is that the equivalent of saying "I don't want to engage, but I think it should be legal for others."?

    I don't believe in abortion for me personally as in I would never choose that as an option for me. I don't believe in same sex marriage for me personally as in it would not be an option for me. I am well aware there are abortions and same sex marriages.  I just would not choose that for me. 

    Now that we've determined that.

    Why don't you want to let others have abortions or get married? 

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    imagecincychick35:
    I don't believe in same sex marriage for me personally as in it would not be an option for me...I just would not choose that for me. 

    Because you aren't gay. That logic is a little shoddy. 

    Good point. 

    So, does that also mean you don't believe in vasectomies - y'know, because you can't have one?

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  • Gah I suck at the Internet today
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  • I think circumcision should be illegal because I don't want one myself.
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  • imageCinemaGoddess:
    imagecincychick35:
    imageCoffeeBeen:

    What does it mean to not believe in abortion/gay marriage?  Because I assure you, there are abortions and gay marriages.  Do you mean that you don't believe people should get abortions and gay marriages or do you mean you believe there shouldn't be abortion/gay marriages? 

    I guess I'm having a hard time understanding why you keep saying "I'm not saying it should be illegal, I'm saying I don't believe in it" (paraphrased).  Is that the equivalent of saying "I don't want to engage, but I think it should be legal for others."?

    I don't believe in abortion for me personally as in I would never choose that as an option for me. I don't believe in same sex marriage for me personally as in it would not be an option for me. I am well aware there are abortions and same sex marriages.  I just would not choose that for me. 

    Now that we've determined that.

    Why don't you want to let others have abortions or get married? 

    Other than "because I don't want one myself"?   I don't want a Pumpkin Spice Latte but I will let others choose one. 

    (Yes, AB.  I am being hyperbolic, lest you not recognize it again.)

  • People who don't like Eggnog Lattes are eggnogphobic asssholes. 

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  • imageCinemaGoddess:

    People who don't like Eggnog Lattes are eggnogphobic asssholes. 

    I'm not saying it's gross but people who drink them are going to hell. 

  • I know egg nog.  I love egg nog. 

    I just don't think egg nog is latte worthy. 

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  • imageCoffeeBeen:
    imagecincychick35:
    imageCoffeeBeen:

    What does it mean to not believe in abortion/gay marriage?  Because I assure you, there are abortions and gay marriages.  Do you mean that you don't believe people should get abortions and gay marriages or do you mean you believe there shouldn't be abortion/gay marriages? 

    I guess I'm having a hard time understanding why you keep saying "I'm not saying it should be illegal, I'm saying I don't believe in it" (paraphrased).  Is that the equivalent of saying "I don't want to engage, but I think it should be legal for others."?

    I don't believe in abortion for me personally as in I would never choose that as an option for me. I don't believe in same sex marriage for me personally as in it would not be an option for me. I am well aware there are abortions and same sex marriages.  I just would not choose that for me. 

    So, do you believe they should be options for other people?

    ^^^^ yes/no question

    I'm not trying to be snarky, I'm seriously just have a hard time understanding where you draw the line.

    I am not sure why you are trying to back me in a corner.  I believe a person should live their life in the way they see fit.  And I don't want to make this is a legality issue.

    I would not be opposed to civil unions.  But I believe marriage is between a man and a woman for the purpose of procreation. I believe it is important to raise a child with a mother and father, even if they are divorced - and I am divorced my the father of my kids.  A child should have a male and female influence in their life.  There are certain things my daughter can talk more easily to me about and things that my son feels more comfortable talking to his father about. 

    Bring on the whips and chains because I know I am going to be beaten up for my personal beliefs.

  • I just don't get how you could oppose or "not believe in" same-sex marriage if you don't think there's something wrong with being gay.  cincy, I'm just trying to understand your perspective.  Personally, I've never heard an argument against same-sex marriage that wasn't a load of homophobic garbage dressed up in religion or pseudoscience, so I just assume that anyone who opposes same-sex marriage is a bigot.  If that is not the case, you have the opportunity here to prove me wrong.  If you choose not to take that opportunity, you can't be upset if people interpret that as confirmation that you are indeed a homophobe.
  • I think Starbucks is being lame for not releasing the gingerbread cake in November.  I love the candied ginger. 

     

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  • So is marriage is simply to have babies- what about childfree couples?  Are they sinning as much as the geighs?  Should they not be allowed to marry either? 

  • renegade is wise. 

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  • imageCinemaGoddess:

    I think Starbucks is being lame for not releasing the gingerbread cake in November.  I love the candied ginger. 

     

    Trader Joes has chocolate covered candied ginger.   

  • I hate Trader Joe's.  I refuse to shop there. 

     

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  • imageCinemaGoddess:

    I hate Trader Joe's.  I refuse to shop there. 

     

    What?  I thought I knew you.

  • It smells like hipster in our Trader Joes.

    I like the Two Buck Chuck, though.

    I just hate shopping there. 

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  • imageCinemaGoddess:

    It smells like hipster in our Trader Joes.

    I like the Two Buck Chuck, though.

    I just hate shopping there. 

    Is it because they are super friendly and talkative?  DH hates small talk and refuses to shop there.  I go at 8am when they open.  They just stocked the shelves so the wine and beer aisles aren't emptied yet. 

    All our hipsters are busy standing in the prepared food counter at Whole Foods.

  • Well I would love to stick around and take a beating, but my DH just called.  He just got laid off from work.  Real life takes presidence over a discussion over my personal beliefs.
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