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Slippery Slope

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Re: Slippery Slope

  • imageCinemaGoddess:

    Oh. 

    Ok. 

    ?

    Problem?

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  • Not at all.  You seemed like you wanted to end the conversation but I didn't want your last post to unacknowleged. 
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  • I only have two points to make.

    1) Life does not automatically constitute personhood.  You need to be legally considered a person to have rights and because a fetus isn't considered a person, it doesn't have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness (USA)/security of the person (Canada).

    2) Gay marriage has been legal across the country here for 7 years and legal in my province for 9 years.  The "slippery slope" thing is ridiculous, because nothing else has changed here.  People still can't be married if they are linearly related (ie. parents/grandparents and their adult children/adult grandchildren) or if they are siblings by blood, adoption, or half-blood.  You still can't marry a person or thing that can't give consent.

  • imageCinemaGoddess:
    Not at all.  You seemed like you wanted to end the conversation but I didn't want your last post to unacknowleged. 

    Well, thank you.

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  • I'm very late, but wanted to chime in. I'm staunchly pro-choice. Pumpkin I'm so sorry for your losses. I'm a mother of 2 and also had an early miscarriage, which I most definitely mourned. But to me it was mourning the potential of that life, if that makes sense.

    And to me, there is no point to defining when life begins when it comes to the legality of abortion. Whether you consider a fetus to be a "life" or not, the issue is a fetus does not have personhood status nor does it have constitutional rights. And they can't be granted personhood status or constitutional rights without infringing on or eroding away the rights of the mother.

    It is legally impossible to have both the mother and the fetus be awarded constitutional rights. Because if it comes to privacy, health, or emergency situations, the rights of one will have to trump the rights of the other. For instance, let's say we granted a fetus rights. And a pregnant woman discovers she has cancer requiring chemotherapy. Chemotherapy that may harm the fetus. Whose rights are honored and who makes that decision? A judge? The doctor?

    Or let's say a pregnant woman is in a car accident. The baby can be saved by emergency c section, but then the mom wouldn't make it. Or the mother could be saved with an emergency operation but then the baby would die. Again, whose rights win out? And who decides? In my opinion that is a worrisome slippery slope situation.

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