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How comfortable are you?
In keeping w/ the seksi theme today, I'm curious how comfortable you feel being naked?
Does it bother you? Or do you not care? Only in certain situations or whenever/whereever? Or somewhere in between? Gimme your thoughts on stripping down and taking it all off. PS - sorry this is one big paragraph, I'm nesting on my bberry while waiting in-line at the BMV.
Re: How comfortable are you?
Hate it. HATE.
I have hella stretch marks, a saggy tummy, and saggy ethiopian boobies. Pregnancy was NOT kind to me.
I don't mind being naked, but I prefer to be wearing something
I'm certainly not, one day, going to be one of those old ladies at the gym letting it all hang out. blech. Especially not the one that bends over in front of people to lotion up.
I don't think pregnancy is kind to very many.
With that said... going through the whole pregnancy thing has made me a lot more carefree with who sees what. I thought I would never let a male nurse look at my lady parts, but by the time I was ready to leave the hospital, I could have easily walked the halls naked. I could care less.
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in my younger days (gosh im old) i didnt give a rats asss about who saw me naked. i walked around naked or in a bra and panties pretty much all the time in college and yes i lived in a co-ed dorm (care to guess which category i picked in Ames' poll? )
now? i have huge scars on my thighs and chest from my open heart and i dont like people seeing them. especially when i have had people make rude comments to me so the "no one notices but you" line doesnt work.
with andy? im fine. i can walk around nekked all the time. other people? i cover my chest/stomach/and thighs.
ETA: as far as my hoohah, i dont really care. in the hospital theyve seen it all. i recently switched to a male gyno because i felt he was much more educated than my previous one. im totally cool with it and i didnt think i would be.
I'm very comfortable being naked, even post pregnancy. Since I'm breastfeeding and live in a secluded area with not very many house guests I'm honestly topless about 80% of the time I'm home. I lucked out and didn't get a single stretch mark during pregnancy (maybe because I was short three weeks of full term?) I do have a muffin top now which I'm not pleased about but considering everything I don't feel I can complain about that and it doesn't bother me enough to not want to be naked.
I do confess that DH and I haven't had post-preg sexy time yet. THere just hasn't been time and when there has been like when Alex finally falls asleep for the night the last thing I've felt like doing is having sex for fear of waking him or for fear of him waking up before we're through or just after we finish and then I didn't get to sleep. Sleep is my #1 priority right now. We'll do it soon though, I promise.
Completely ignorant and unnecessary.
Zuma Zoom
I'm pretty comfortable with my body in general. I get ready half dressed most of the time, so I walk around the house half-naked a lot. H enjoys it. Even around my friends, if I'm changing, I'll let it all hang out. One of my best friends is beautiful, but she grew up seeing her mom be really insecure. Any time we are around each other getting ready or something she always says "turn around, I'm going to change." I think it is really sad. My mom was pretty "free" when we were younger and I saw her naked plenty of times. I think growing up watching her be comfortable with herself has made me feel more comfortable with myself.
Seriously, get over yourself.
/nft.
It isn't about me. It does involve me, but it isn't about me getting over myself. People should be more cognizant of what they're saying. Why they're saying it, and why it could be harmful.
I was this close to not saying a word, but after this week, and the embarrassment of our country in regards to race relations, I couldn't. I'm on like 15 for emotions from this whole birther crap. This statement about Ethiopians and some horrible stereotype is just ignorant and unnecessary.
Zuma Zoom
pretty comfortable. spending all of college in a sorority house will do that to ya. I often walked down the hall in shorts and a bra to someone else's room to root thru their closet for something to wear. My body was much nicer back then...
BUT, I think it did make me more comfortable in my own skin. So even now, with several extra pounds, I'm still pretty comfortable being naked, in front of H, my girlfriends, and whatnot. Like aortiz, I can't get dressed right out of the shower - I take REALLY hot showers. I usually do my hair, makeup, etc naked, in panties at most.
And that's why I love you!
I know you're not responding, but I'll just saying "women I've seen in National Geographic" is different. Instead, there was a blanket comparison about women of an entire nation and physical features as a negative.
You may not have meant for it to be derogatory, doesn't make it less so.
Zuma Zoom
I was uncomfortable being naked (in the locker room) in high school because I was so incredibly skinny and flat-chested.
In college, I was uncomfortable being naked when my weight yo-yo'ed up and down and I worried the guys I dated would look at cellulite or a less than rock-hard tummy.
Once I got my eating and exercise habits under control and let my natural metabolism and genetics take over again, I found I was really happy with my body and after dating H for a few months (I was 23 then) I became very comfortable with walking around naked. He always made comments about what great shape I was in and how beautiful he thought I was, and that gave me a huge ego-boost. Even now, at 35 weeks pregnant, I have no problem being naked in front of him (or my mom, or most of my friends.) Like Nooner and Amanda, I do makeup, hair, etc, buck naked. If I hit 37 weeks and can start exercising again, I will be walking around outside in nothing but short shorts and a sports bra, with my big pregnant belly hanging out.
I do feel a little self-conscious about my butt with it's pregnancy expansion, but I've always been a touch paranoid that no matter how thin I may be and no matter how many miles I run, my bum's a little on the soft side. One thing that REALLY helped me put my body-image in the best light though is running a marathon. I was proud of my time (even though I was aiming for faster) and proud of all the training I logged to do it. I realized one morning, while scrutinizing my arse in the mirror, that those glutes carried me 26.2 miles in 4 hours. That's an awesome butt right there and if there's cellulite on it, dammit, it can stay there. If all that running didn't make my butt rock hard and perfect, nothing will (besides surgery) so I pretty much made peace with it. I'm REALLY hoping I maintain this perspective after my baby's born and that I can say "I'm doing my best to be healthy, but I carried a baby for 9 months and if there's some pregnancy-evidence left on this body that just won't go away, it deserves to be there."
You're ignorant and unnecessary. Moving on...
I love being naked. I loved it more before I was pregnant, and it kinda dwindled while I was pregnant, and I'm getting back into the loving being naked thing more now that I'm done breastfeeding and don't need to worry about leaking boobs. Once I'm out of the shower, it's a quick towel dry and then it's bum to the breeze while I fix up my face, comb out my hair, and figure out what I'm going to wear for the day.
When I used to tan, it was 100% nude, and I even took advantage of the topless pool when I went to Cancun so many years ago.
Ironically, I do not like being 100% naked during sex, much to Chris' dismay. Maybe it's the whole pregnancy boob thing, but I just can't not go around without a bra on. I mean, he can touch as much as he wants, but the girls stay secure.
updated 10.03.12
I'd rather be ignorant by your estimation (which doesn't mean much), than be willfully ignorant and be offensive to an entire nation of women.
But let me gallop off into the sunset on my horse, high and all.
Zuma Zoom
This was uncalled for. There is a difference between calling what someone said ignorant and calling someone ignorant.
Yeah, well... just callin' 'em as I see 'em.
updated 10.03.12
First, let me say that I am genuinely surprised, in a good way, that I wasn't the one to say it.
With that said, it was a horrible thing to say and the fact that MB defends it only confirms that.
And, ditto on MB's estimation meaning ***.
If anything, the comment I made was meant to be making fun of myself. I breastfed a child for almost 9 months, and as a result, my boobs look like I've never worn a bra in my life. It's not cute.
I'm not sorry for what I said. Those who have taken the time to get to know me know that I'm not a mean-spirited person. As for the rest of you, well frankly, I don't really care what you think of me.
I also feel that those of you who came down on me are simply trying to pick a fight for the sake of picking a fight. I don't really feel like playing that game tonight. Think what you want about me, but those who I care about on here know my heart and they know that I meant no disrespect.
As for myself, speaking from a sociological POV (versus a psychological one), I believe you meant no harm.
And, THAT is the problem.
Now, if you were trying to offend someone, then that would just make you an @$$ but, hey, people are @$$es.
The sad part it is that you actually think that saying that isn't ignorant, harmful, painful, etc. We (especially Americans and no, that's not a generalization, it's been proven) are very culturally insensitive. Your statement was indeed culturally insensitive. And, so, the fact that you think saying it was 'no big deal,' IS the problem. Not really the statement itself. It's a symptom of a bigger problem. :-(
That make sense? :-)
Speaking of ignorant and unnecessary...
updated 10.03.12
2.) If I had said "I have terrible teeth, just like the British!" Would we be having this discussion? Likely not. The real issue at hand is that what I said has been twisted into a race issue. THAT is what's sad, because I can't even make a reference to my own breasts without someone making me out to be a racist.
I honestly wasn't trying to do that, as have been proven before - when people assume others know something they know, it doesn't go well. If wamo talked about anything involving science, I would be completely in the dark and, thanks to this board, I am know assuming people don't understand psycho- and soc- stuff. So sorry about that.
I don't know if Smo would have said anything re: Brits and their teeth (which I don't understand, why is this anyways?) but I would have. It's still making racial generalizations.
And, yes, you did make reference to YOUR breasts but you did not ONLY make reference to YOUR breasts. You compared YOUR breasts to another race's. If you had said 'saggy @$$ breasts,' then that would have been fine. You honestly don't see how saying their breasts are saggy like X race's breasts is hurtful and racist?
First off, not every Ethiopian woman's breasts are like that (which you've already acknowledged so thanks for that) BUT that's not even the case.
WHY is it necessary to say it at all? WHY can't you just say your breasts are saggy? WHY?
Wow.
Pot?
POT?!
Are you missing your kettle?
HERE I AM!
also, I would like to clarify that no one ever said anything about the dental issues of the British. I was merely using that as a metaphor.
With that, I'm going to bed. Enjoy your crazycakes.
Race is often used, incorrectly though, interchangeably with ethnicity. With the ignorance shown here, I was assuming you would know the word race better than you would the word ethnicity. So, when I said you made a racial generalization, it was referring to the generalization you made when referring to ALL Ethiopian women.
So, yes, you DID make a generalization.
And, you have yet to answer why it was necessary to bring up Ethiopian breasts in the first place. THAT'S crazycakes.
And, my wondering about the dental issues of the British had nothing to do with you, I didn't accuse you of saying anything negative about the British so calm down there killa.