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SaveTheWorld2014 · May 2011

mrs pH:
SaveTheWorld2014:
ChristinaDawn:
SMorriso:
ChristinaDawn:

SMorriso:
ChristinaDawn:
I wasn't going to fuel this any further but I need to state this one simple thing. My issue was not with what you stated, it is the way in which you approached it Smo. You came into a post in which you didn't even address the topic at hand just to call Ames out on her choice of comparing her breasts to that of an Ethiopian woman's ala National Geographic. You consistently come off as preachy and self righteous while hiding behind themes of race and injustice which makes it hard for anyone to say anything against you, not that that has ever stopped anyone, other than myself. I'm not saying your views always are wrong, it's the way in which you state them that irks me. That being said, I'm sure you're just as annoyed with many responses from other's on this board. I don't often speak up in these situations because it's just not worth it most of the time but I've had my fill of your "my *** don't stank" attitude. That's all.
Christina, I think that the way I said it, honestly isn't any different than how Ames/MB/SW2B/Stees and a handful of others would not hold back on this board due to our relationships on the board. If that makes sense. We're open and speak frankly with people here. About breastefeeding, dinner recipes, things we disagree on. KWIM?
I think it is hypocritcal to say that I come off as self righteous when other people on this board have dedicated posts to say how they won't apologize for having their opinion or being bitchy because they're just keeping it real. blah blah. What makes me different? Why not call that out?
I'm definitely not trying to come off preachy, more than just calling something out like I did. I said already that it has been a difficult week for me. I didn't feel comfortable posting my thoughts here about what the president was pressured to do, and all the injustice surrounding it. I didn't post here because I didn't feel like dealing with,"Smo's playing the race card" BS. It was so severely moving for me. This whole week. So much so, that no I didn't have the strength to sugar coat or lighten my approach to something insensitive.
I didn't post on any other post yesterday. So, on topic or not, it was worth calling out.

I don't think it's hypocritical at all considering you have no basis on which to call me hypocritical. Why? Just because I haven't spoke up before and now I am? That'd doesn't make me hypocritical, that just makes me fed up and unable to keep my mouth shut.
Why not call that out? Because it's not my style to call people out. If you were to look back through my posting history from 2008 to date you will not find much drama. The only other time I can think of was recently when SW2B said something snarky in Emily's pregnancy announcement post which irked me because again it wasn't about the topic at hand at all and was completely unnecessary in my opinion.
What makes you different? The way in which you state your opinion as if it is a higher truth and better than anyone else's. You are intellegent and state your opinion in an intellegent manner, however the way you word your opinions is what bothers me. You talk down to people and have a vendetta against the Great MB and here "team" because you don't like her or the way she states her opinions. As you are entitled to not like MB, I am entitled to not like you. As I stated in my previous post, I'm fed up with your manner of "speaking" to people on this board and the fact that you seem to post a lot just to call people out on statements that you twist into issues. It would be different if the post were about race/nationality issues, but it wasn't, you made it about that. I am also not stating that your pulling the "race card," you called it that. Again, for me it isn't about the issue you're speaking out against, it's the way you do it.

Yes, it is full of myself to call out the truth about someone being ignorant towards a country of women. Not opinion. That comment had no factual basis unless Mary has dug up another graph or Wiki link about the comparison of breasts conducted by a legitimate source.
Even if Mary does have the grace to find such a graph, by Ames own admittance, her statement came from the National Geographics she used to look at, not based on fact.
I'm not talking down. I'm not going to say, Gee Ames, that probably isn't the best use of the term, and you just might be insulting someone out there. But since there is no Ethiopian Niners, or any African Niners, go ahead. That comment was okay, because I know your heart, and that you don't really mean to be insulting.
The comment wasn't okay, whether her intentions were. I didn't twist a damn thing. I don't know how on earth what she said could have been twisted.
I honestly find it hypocritical, that people are fine with MB talking down to people, i.e. JamieWillard, but when I challenge someone on a slur, I'm high and mighty.
I normally contribute to this board in a regular manner, I don't call out people just because I don't like them. Unlike others. If someone is doing something that is just rude, again i.e. JaimeWillard, lilswimmer, etc, I will speak up. If people make derogatory comments I'll speak up. Ames just happened to be the person saying it. It has nothing to do with my like or dislike of her.
You do call people out that you don't like, don't pretend that you don't. You run to SW2B's defense even when she's saying completely idiotic things just to stick up for the underdog and rage against MB and others. Again, for me it wasn't this topic specifically, this topic was just the catalyst that made me lose it on you because you are all high and mighty in your opinions and truths. I agree with Mary's statement that my first image was that of a famous NG cover prior to Ames stating that reference as well. This didn't have to be blown up like this, you chose to blow it up in this way and I know you're going to state that it's necessary to abolish race issues in the US, which is noble and all, it doesn't change the fact that I can't stand your approach to issues and that I don't like you. I haven't spoken up before because when I'm working I don't get to post during the day like others and by the time I get home the issue is played out and I'd just be fueling the drama by stating my opinion. To me this isn't a Team Smo, Team MB thing, it's a I don't like you thing because whether you want to admit it or not you do act like you're better than other's on this board and you do ride in on your high horse quite frequently.
This all goes back to "this is a public forum" "not everyone is going to get along" blah blah blah. What you twisted was a fun post, into an ugly one by taking it upon yourself to personally crusade against this issue since, as you stated, your emotions have been running high this week. I didn't ask you to sugar coat it, I asked you to STFU.
I would like to point out I actually defended Smo, not the other way around. And, there have been plenty of times where Smo has disagreed with me and vice versa. (For example, I completely support gay marriage).
The bottom line is: The comment by Ames was horrible and should have been immediately deleted and apologized for. And, the fact that only Smo and myself have voiced objections to it is so disheartening about the 'progress' we've made as human beings. :-(
Haha... Is this seriously how you gauge "progress"???
Statements like that don't mark progression or even regression. I think real progress is when everyone can just brush off a comment like Ames and realize that it's not true for every AND that she meant NO HARM in her comment. Whether or not Ethiopian women's saggy breasts are negative or positive thing is subjective. You can't speak for them. Seriously, get the fvck over yourself and your psychological bullsh!t.
I can understand making a big deal about this crap if she was being negative about it... but she CLEARLY was not... as you and SMo both agree on. Let it go!

Real progress =/= when people brush off racist comments.

Real progress = when people DON'T MAKE racist comments or when they ACCIDENTALLY do, they realize the error of their ways and apologize.

That is NOT what happened here AT ALL.

Oh, and I didn't say anything about whether or not saggy breasts were good or bad, I said I am offended by the comment. Because IT'S RACIST.

Nothing to do with psychology, has to do with being a decent human being.

steeser03 · May 2011

mcd11:
steeser03:

Im sorry I missed where I said Smo called her racist. Oh thats because I didnt.

But she did call her statements ignorant and she did attribute it to the racism of the south.

I stand corrected, but I never said that you said she did. I was just pointing out that Smo didn't launch a personal attack on Ames. Nor did Ames launch one on Smo, from what I can tell. It's everyone else who seems to have made it personal, and I don't think Smo deserved that.

thats true, it did become personal. i think there has been a lot of "pent up emotions" and right or wrong, they came out in this thread.

ChristinaDawn · May 2011

steeser03:
mcd11:
steeser03:

Im sorry I missed where I said Smo called her racist. Oh thats because I didnt.

But she did call her statements ignorant and she did attribute it to the racism of the south.

I stand corrected, but I never said that you said she did. I was just pointing out that Smo didn't launch a personal attack on Ames. Nor did Ames launch one on Smo, from what I can tell. It's everyone else who seems to have made it personal, and I don't think Smo deserved that.

thats true, it did become personal. i think there has been a lot of "pent up emotions" and right or wrong, they came out in this thread.

Stees just keeps taking the "words out of my mouth" as I said in one of my post below this was more so just the straw that broke the camel's back for me which is why I spoke up.

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