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"but the first year of marriage is so hard..."

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Re: "but the first year of marriage is so hard..."

  • I have my first appointment/consultation!  It's next week.  It's with a woman, and it's for 45 minutes.  I'm actually excited.
  • Unless you have a serious mental health issue requiring prescription medication to treat, you don't need to see a physician.  A therapist or counselor with a degree in counseling or psychology is sufficient.  You can call your insurance company directly to get a list of approved providers in your area, or just google providers and call and ask if they are in-network.

    I'm glad to hear you're taking action!

  • imageMsSara0:
    I have my first appointment/consultation!  It's next week.  It's with a woman, and it's for 45 minutes.  I'm actually excited.

    Excellent!

    Keep in mind that the first appointment, or first few appointments, might not appear to be doing much good.  The initial sessions are often spent identifying why you're there.  So you'll spend a lot of time talking about everything that's wrong, but you won't have the skills to do anything about it yet.  It can be easy to get discouraged in the beginning, but you have to stick with it to see any progress.

    Also, don't be afraid to check out other therapists if you don't feel that you're clicking well with the first one.

    Good luck!

  • imageGeek_Girl:

    Didn't you tell us before that you lived at home until you moved in with him and that your parents didn't let you make any/many choices of your own? 

    Well, THAT would be why you don't trust your gut and why you rely on everyone else to tell you what to do.  By your parents dictating your life (I'm sure they meant well in some twisted fashion) they have removed your decision-making ability and your self-confidence to make good decisions and stand by them. 

    So, yeah, that's how you got "here".

    Yes, I lived with my parents until living with my husband.  They were the type to sway my decision sort of by guilt, rather than tell me what I can or cannot do.  I was the kid that made honor roll but got grounded for not getting more A's while my brother made honor roll once in his lifetime and was rewarded a quad.  Yea.  Those are old issues that absolutely play a part in my adult life.

  • imagerenegade gaucho:

    imageMsSara0:
    I have my first appointment/consultation!  It's next week.  It's with a woman, and it's for 45 minutes.  I'm actually excited.

    Excellent!

    Keep in mind that the first appointment, or first few appointments, might not appear to be doing much good.  The initial sessions are often spent identifying why you're there.  So you'll spend a lot of time talking about everything that's wrong, but you won't have the skills to do anything about it yet.  It can be easy to get discouraged in the beginning, but you have to stick with it to see any progress.

    Also, don't be afraid to check out other therapists if you don't feel that you're clicking well with the first one.

    Good luck!

    I recall this feeling from our couples couseling.  I would get so annoyed at first because I didn't understand that she needed to learn the issues before giving us tools to solve them.

    I was able to get an appointment with the woman that everyone had given kudos to, so I'm excited to meet her and get this ball rolling.  Thankfully, there are a handful of other therapists there under my insurance, just in case we may not click.

  • imageMsSara0:
    imagerenegade gaucho:

    My first year of marriage was not difficult at all.  I can see where you might experience some bumps the first year if you didn't live together before getting married- moving in with another person, whether it's your husband or just a roommate, always requires some adjustment.

    Your problem goes far beyond typical first- year stuff- you're husband simply doesn't respect you.  That's not something that's going to change if you just stay married to him.  He isn't going to magically morph into a decent person the day after your first anniversary.

    With people giving you advice like that, it's no wonder you ended up in this situation to begin with.  Ultimately, YOU are the one who is most affected by whatever choice you end up making.  The people pressuring you to stay aren't the ones who are stuck with a horrible husband who takes advantage of their low self-esteem.  In the end, the only person you can rely on to act in your best interest is yourself.  It's time to stop worrying about what other people think and trust your gut.  You aren't happy with him, and for good reason.  His flaws ARE that bad.

    I would look at anyone dismissing your unhappiness and encouraging you to stay very carefully.

    That's why it's bothering me more than anything today.  It's my own mom that told me yesterday how hard the first year(s) can be.  She gave me a few war stories of her and my dad who've been married 30+ years.  After hearing those stories and her telling me how hard it can be at times, I feel like I'm being to hard on him.  But.  I keep telling my mom, that her and my dad at the end of every day have that love for each other that they're willing to stick by each other. My husband and I do not have that underlying love that can get us through anything.  I realize that sounds like some fairy-tale bullshiit, but you get the point.  We don't have the foundation we need.

    I dont think it's fairy-tale bullshit.  you deserve that-the underlying love is so important.  My H tells me all the time "we can get through anything together, i promise"  no matter how much we bicker at each other- he is my best friend, the love of my life and we always have each other's backs-always!  We've only been married 2 months- but we lived together a year- and sure a few small things came up (just the norm-not leaving your clothes laying everywhere stuff) but we never had a problem.  Even with combining the finances- a few lil disagreements but nothing really.  we are each responsible for certain bills-  GL dear!

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  • imageMsSara0:
    imagegioia di vivere:

    imageMsSara0:
     My husband and I do not have that underlying love that can get us through anything. We don't have the foundation we need.

     

    Well, there you go. Now what do you plan to do about that?

    I'm currently moved out.  He called me last week that he separated all of our bills, and I called to get my own stuff set up so we have nothing left together other than our home.  He mailed in the paperwork to assume liability of our home, we find out in 30 days if he is approved.  If so, that's the last step prior to signing divorce papers. 

    I was ok with this decision up until this weekend when suddenly everyone was saying how hard that first year can be, and they felt like maybe I was rushing this decision.  I tried to explain that even though we've only been "married" a year, we've been together 4+ and it we've broken up many times, so this isn't something I just woke up on a Tuesday and decided.

    My first marriage lasted 6 months- I was being yelled at, disrespected and all of those things.  It wasn't because we got married- it was the relationship and for some reason i thought marriage would fix that.  NOPE- I don't know your back story but don't worry about it- you know what's right.  If you are in a good relationship- there will be bickering and a few fights but overall it shouldn't be that difficult.  GL!

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  • imageMsSara0:
    imagerenegade gaucho:
    imageMsSara0:

    We lived together for about a year and a half prior to marriage.  It was "hard" getting used to his routine vs mine, the way the paper towels roll, etc.  We went through the fight of money, combining accounts, who's responsible for writing checks, all that.  I thought those were the kinds of things that were the growing pains.  Right?  Or did I set my expectations too high?

    No, your expectations are not too high.  You already went through all of the things people are referring to when they say the first year can be tough.

    I don't remember- are you in therapy?  Because you really need to be if you think expecting your husband not to condescend to you is asking for too much.

    I am not in therapy yet. I keep saying that I need to be, I just haven't made the move to start finding someone I'm comfortable with.  Also, suddenly I feel like maybe he isn't so condescending, maybe I have the attitude problem since I expect him to be this wonderful person now that he's a "husband".  Does that even make sense?

    A ring, vows, a pretty dress and a lovely party do not change the inherent nature of a person. It doesn't matter what title he has - if he's not a good fit for you, he's not a good fit for you. :)
  • imagekt012885:

    My first marriage lasted 6 months- I was being yelled at, disrespected and all of those things.  It wasn't because we got married- it was the relationship and for some reason i thought marriage would fix that.  NOPE- I don't know your back story but don't worry about it- you know what's right.  If you are in a good relationship- there will be bickering and a few fights but overall it shouldn't be that difficult.  GL!

    I realize that now, that I thought marriage would "fix" the issues and build a foundation that was never there and that obviously is not true.  I'm glad that you were able to find a healthy marriage after all that.  Makes me feel better about all of this.

  • imageJoEsther:

    A ring, vows, a pretty dress and a lovely party do not change the inherent nature of a person. It doesn't matter what title he has - if he's not a good fit for you, he's not a good fit for you. :)

    It seems like such a simple concept but I was just too clouded with wedding crap back then.  Right now with a more level head and not having everyone pressuring me about the wedding and the next appointment, next deposit, choose this color, etc., I really do clearly see that our relationship doesn't work. 

     

    I also called around yesterday for apartments.  I realize that living with my parents is not a helpful envirnment for me right now.  There's a lot of tension and even last night there was talk of my husband and I trying too hard to mesh our lives instead of letting time do that - so maybe I shouldn't rush this decision.  It actually breaks my heart when I hear my parents saying this stuff because now more than ever I need cheerleaders and I don't have it.  So, I want my own place and I've heard that they won't even see the mortgage because I'm not purchasing anything.  I'm told they check my credit score and need to see a paystub.  Also, two places in town allow you to put the first, last and security deposit on a credit card.  If this is all true, I can move in tomorrow lol

  • imageMsSara0:

     

    I also called around yesterday for apartments.  I realize that living with my parents is not a helpful envirnment for me right now.  There's a lot of tension and even last night there was talk of my husband and I trying too hard to mesh our lives instead of letting time do that - so maybe I shouldn't rush this decision.

    Your parents think you and your husband are trying too hard, and you should just do nothing and hope your marriage somehow improves?  Am I understanding that correctly?  If so, then yeah- living with them is not a good idea.  Your parents have some very unhealthy dynamics between them and kind of an effed-up view of relationships, so they might not ever understand why you're making this choice.  That's why a counselor is so important here.

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    joesther- so let me guess... if she had shyt out a kid before this time, you'd be advising her to stay?!
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  • imagerenegade gaucho:
    imageMsSara0:

     

    I also called around yesterday for apartments.  I realize that living with my parents is not a helpful envirnment for me right now.  There's a lot of tension and even last night there was talk of my husband and I trying too hard to mesh our lives instead of letting time do that - so maybe I shouldn't rush this decision.

    Your parents think you and your husband are trying too hard, and you should just do nothing and hope your marriage somehow improves?  Am I understanding that correctly?  If so, then yeah- living with them is not a good idea.  Your parents have some very unhealthy dynamics between them and kind of an effed-up view of relationships, so they might not ever understand why you're making this choice.  That's why a counselor is so important here.

    Something along those lines, yes.  My dad said that once the ring went on I was pushing the idea of kids when I should have just relaxed and let it happen.  He said that my husband pushed the idea of furthering his credentials and getting the next position on the corporate ladder, when he should have just continued working and allowed things to happen.  My dad said that we put a lot of pressure on each other for things that didn't need to be addressed in such an "immediate" "urgent" manner. 

    I found an apartment today that my very best friend growing up lives across the hall.  It's his cousins place (4 units) so the owner is waiving the security deposit since he knows me.  I go on Wendesday to check it out, but I know I'm going to say yes.  It's cheaper than any other place (and the bonus of no SD), it's on a lake, and my best friend that I grew up with lives across the hall.  How easy.  The start of blessings sent my way!

  • It seems that you have come to the "Crap, my parents don't know what they are talking about" moment.  Congrats,  a lot of us have been there.  It is a sobering moment when you realize you have more sense than your parents.  Don't listen to them. 

    Trust me, I have noticed that the harderst year of marriage always changes.  Some say it is the first, others the third or fifth, still others will say the seventh ( i.e. the Sevne year itch).  If you did have a baby some will say that child's first year is the hardest, yet others will say adding a second child to the mix will be the hardest.  It always always changes depending on who you are talking to.  At a certain point you have to get off the pot if it isn't working for you.

    My husband and I have been married for seven years and we have been through some very very difficult events ( our first child passed away when she was four months old).  However, I can't really say that our relationship itself has been difficult.  It has been pretty easy for the most part.  If I was going to pick on I would say those months after we lost our first child were difficult because I thought  I was losing my mind with grief and depression and those first few weeks after we brought our second  child home from the hospital were difficult due to sleep deprivation; however nothing was close to divorcable. 

  • imagestw_77:

    It seems that you have come to the "Crap, my parents don't know what they are talking about" moment.  Congrats,  a lot of us have been there.  It is a sobering moment when you realize you have more sense than your parents.  Don't listen to them. 

    Trust me, I have noticed that the harderst year of marriage always changes.  Some say it is the first, others the third or fifth, still others will say the seventh ( i.e. the Sevne year itch).  If you did have a baby some will say that child's first year is the hardest, yet others will say adding a second child to the mix will be the hardest.  It always always changes depending on who you are talking to.  At a certain point you have to get off the pot if it isn't working for you.

    My husband and I have been married for seven years and we have been through some very very difficult events ( our first child passed away when she was four months old).  However, I can't really say that our relationship itself has been difficult.  It has been pretty easy for the most part.  If I was going to pick on I would say those months after we lost our first child were difficult because I thought  I was losing my mind with grief and depression and those first few weeks after we brought our second  child home from the hospital were difficult due to sleep deprivation; however nothing was close to divorcable. 

    I'm very sorry to hear of your loss, I can't imagine that. 

    I do think you are right, it does depend on the couple/situation for which year people say is the hardest.  And as you made clear, "hardest" might just mean difficult things that have happened around the marriage, not necessarily the behavior of the husband or wife.

    The more I sit back and watch the dynamics of my parents, I realize that things aren't what they've always seemed to me.  This blows my mind.

  • If you think the first year is hard, wait until the 7th!
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