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Re: should she be allowed to wear this to prom?
Oh there are people in the dorms on campus here who proudly display the confederate flag in their windows. Which is weird when they also get rabidly supportive of our basketball team which is like 90% black. Do you not see the disconnect here? Do you perhaps need an effigy to point it out? Oh, we did that on campus already too.
Yep, love living in the south. I'll own it. There are some racist mothertruckers here.
This is rebel clothing:
What these girls are wearing is a Confederate flag. Many of us find it very difficult to separate the Confederate flag from its history as a banner leading forces of racism.
I am the 99%.
Kindly refrain from confusing these folks with British royalty. Thx.
this girl is a grade A dipshiit. stories like this make me so sad.
Win what? Fine, we'll surrender New Jersey to the South.
<a href="http://www.thenest.com/?utm_source=ticker&utm_medium=HTML&utm_campaign=tickers" title="Home DTry Googling "rebel flag", and see if you get Jedis. "Rebel" isn't positive, negative, or a euphamism, it's just another common way to describe that flag, and playing it out as anything else is really reaching.
I'm not defending wearing the dress. Like I said, I find the dress abhorrent, because the Confederate flag *is* racist.
It's entirely possible to be southern and think crap like what this girl pulled is bullsh!t, and that's the whole point to why broad characterizations of the south based on the worst parts of the population there aren't fair or helpful.
My bet is this was at a purity ball.
IME, the people who call it the "rebel flag" are the same ones who call it the "war of northern aggression".
I am the 99%.
IME, there are people (myself included) who mock the use of "War of Northern Aggression", but use "rebel flag" or "Confederate flag" interchangeably. Perhaps it's a regional thing.
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Well I'm sure you're much more of an expert on it than someone who lives in Mississippi. Seattle has got to be teeming with Confederate apologists, no?
we all fall down sometimes
brass and ballet flats
I have to say this is one of the hardest slams I have seen on the nest. Holy crap. And LOL!
It makes her self-centered and clueless. Like people who say, "Hey, my wedding is going to be BYOB and we only want cash or checks, so we're writing 'presentation' on the invitation. That's okay, right?" And you look dumbfounded and say, "Uh, well, it's your wedding, so whatever you want."
So yeah, girl in a racist dress walking up to black people and saying, "Hey, this isn't racist or offensive, RIGHT?" = black people saying, "Uh, no, it's totally cool, please just let me walk into the building, thanks."
Oh, and re: free speech. I wonder how that case in 2004 turned out. Because SCOTUS has determined that public school students don't have an unlimited right to free speech. For example, if allowing students to wear clothing which advocates racism intimidates minority students and keeps them from focusing on the task at hand, the school is within its rights to limit that. My public elementary school didn't allow t-shirts depicting swear words, drinking, drugs, or cigarettes, nor did they allow midrift-tops or anything which could show underwear, nor did they allow us to wear SHORTS before June 1. It's legal.
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But..but..it's about pride in their Southern heritage. It's not racist, it's historic. /sarcasm
I thought we had established that there's no difference between Seattle and Mississippi in terms of racism or gun culture and there's no reason to think that the South is different from anywhere else in any way at all.
I used "rebel flag" in my post up-thread because I have precious little time to Nest at work, and "Confederate" takes too damn long to type out. So there.
It's offensive. Neither one of my girls would have gotten passed their bedroom door in that thing.
See, I told you. There is absolutely no difference whatsoever between the south and everywhere else
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FWIW, if you want to know where I'm coming from, my irritation is because of experiences like a professor helpfully recommending I lose what accent I have (and I don't have much of one) when I went to job interviews out of the south, and the realization that it's maybe not that silly an idea. Or someone saying "Really? You don't seem like it at all!" when they find out where I'm from. Or my IL's asking "How could you stand it?" and "Aren't you glad you're here now?" when we moved north. It doesn't happen too often, thankfully, but it happens enough that I worry in some situations if I've got to hide where I'm from if I don't want someone judge, and it's an icky feeling.
Number 1. First and Foremost:
Those men are not Jedi. They are Rebel Alliance.
This is their flag:
2 - Momi, make me the happiest girl in the world and be my sister wife. Purty please.
3 - It's not making an unsafe environment per se. Let it go. Give everyone else attending the chance to say at the reunion, "Hey, remember that chick who wore that dress to prom? Yeah....meth is a helluva thing."
Just as a side note- the young lady that sued because they turned her away at the door? It settled out of court 2 years after the incident.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-02-28-confederate-dress_x.htm
A Frog, A Monkey and a Ladybug
She went into it deliberately looking for trouble. She got the idea from the 2004 dress. This was posted on the Sons of Confederate Veterans FB page:
"Hi I am Texanna Edwards from Dyer, Tn and I go to Gibson County High School. I was told to leave prom April 21,2012 because my dress was patterned after the Confederate flag. I was told by my School officials that I could not do ...Senior Walk or go to prom in my dress because it would offend people. We asked people of both races black and white and they all said they loved my dress and it showed that I am proud of where it is I come from and that?s the South. I looked into this and the girl I got the dress idea from had this same thing happen to her and she sued the school she went to because her First Amendment rights were violated, and I feel the same way. The Rebel flag has nothing to really do with being racist but has to do with the State?s rights. When the Civil War was going on there where lots of black people who fought for the South because they new that if the North won they would lose what jobs and food they had. I was born in Baton Rough, Louisiana and I am very proud of my southern roots. The thing I really don?t get is that we wear rebel flags on shirts and on other things to school all the time but when we asked the officials why couldn?t I wear it now they told us that no one wears rebel flags to Gibson County High School. I was robbed of my senior prom because some people just can't get out of the past, its either that or they are too scared to stand for anything. I am not going to let this go because I am a southern and the rebel flag stands just as much down here as the American flag stands over the United States. See if my dress looked like a American flag then they would had never said a word but if you ask me that makes them the racial people not me. I would like information on how to pursue this matter and to stop the harassment of people wanting to express there ideas and beliefs of Southern Heritage and the American way! I feel that my First Amendment rights were violated. Most people do not fully understand what the Confederate War and Flag stand for."
Updated September 2012.